Reindeer
Member
LOL. I was comparing RDR2 to current cross gen lineup we saw, not true next gen games we haven't seen yet. You think this is next gen? Lol.
Microsoft Games Showcase Event Today (11am ET / 8am PT / 4pm UK)
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bosnianpie
Member
I'm not sure what MS was aiming for here but I think they made a miscalculation. People have high expectations now before every piece of the new consoles is being shown and this was not really impressive.
VlaudTheImpaler
tl;dr
Wow, look at all these peeps so mad at third parties for not looking "good". Next gen gonna be the end of third parties?
Sota4077
Member
Cross generation games that are being optimized for the Series X from third party developers kills your hype for a next gen console without seeing anything from their first party? lol.
People saying it's your fault for expecting too much are ridiculous. This video has many dislikes on YouTube. People on Twitter are not happy etc.
And Microsoft although said it was 3rd party, they still hyped it. People expected Elden Ring, Batman, Harry Potter, and actual gameplay of Assassin's Creed. Not a bunch of indie games.
Here is a quote of Xbox tweet
"Tommorow changes the game, or rather games do the changing"
They hyped this up as first look at next gen gameplay.
If they just dropped this and said here is a bunch of cross gen games the day before no one would be disappointed.
The downplaying of people saying this was a good idea is rather strange.
Iced Arcade
Member
Was pretty bland/boring but all expected. 2rd small 3rd party and indie games.
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Agnostic2020
Member
Can you share the link ? It went private for me 30 min ago
Reindeer
Member
Lol, that's not what they're mad about, they're mad about Microsoft choosing mainly AA and indie games to show off their new "Most Powerful" console.
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MasterCornholio
Member
I think the stream added to the poor showing.
Fortunately there will be more in the future.
JareBear: Remastered
Banned
They said it would be crossgen games optimized for XsX. That is what we got.
VlaudTheImpaler
tl;dr
They did a third party event. It was clearly stated that this was what it was going to be. Anyone upset is being willfully obtuse.
ThatOneGrunt
Member
People in this thread are crazy. Third party games never look earth shattering at the start of a console generation. MS is right for holding the heavy hitters until later. Sony hasn't even shown thier console yet. All they revealed was the controller and look how much attention that thing got.
JareBear: Remastered
Banned
Fortunately there will be more in the future.
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Ass of Can Whooping
Member
Microsofts marketing was spot on tbh
They certainly changed the game by killing their own momentum
They certainly changed the game by killing their own momentum
Bladed Thesis
Member
If Sony shows TLOU2 and GoT in a next-gen reveal, I'll be somewhat upset.
Remasters are not what a next-gen showcase should be about. I don't want a plate full of PS4 remasters in 4k60fps. I want NEW next gen games. So maybes its "thanks...." for you but for me Sony showing me PS4 titles in a PS5 showcase would be just as bad.
CrustyBritches
Gold Member
Meh. You seem confused and intent on projecting your own arguments on me. I said:
- "The environments look nice, and this is pretty much what to expect from ACV on a PC running a 2080."
- "Welcome to the modern console era where it's more iterative like PC."
- "This is the stuff next-gen consoles will be playing when it comes to 3rd-party games."
All the other stuff you've been tripping over yourself to argue has nothing to do with these indisputable facts.
Alter_Fridge
Member
It was called a showcase event. That implies some high end stuff
Not last gen naff
sonomamashine
Member
Didn't they say JULY ?
JareBear: Remastered
Banned
You inferred high end stuff, nothing was implied
They said it would be crossgen third party games optimized for XsX, their next gen hardware
That Is What We Got.
Compare current gen crossgen titles to their last gen versions. Same thing happening
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phil_t98
#SonyToo
realistically who do you think the dislikes are coming from? I mean a few weeks ago people here bragging about how many likes a controller pic got. same demographic will like dislike console warrioring
PianistaMacabro
Member
All the same once again .....don't care much about the x series raw power, Microsoft has no games....as always
Reindeer
Member
Lol, and where was the gameplay they promised? They just clickbaited and lied about this being first gameplay reveal, but people like you eat it up. And branding this console as most powerful and then showing indie games for your first reveal is plain retarded.
cryptoadam
Banned
I was expecting that but was hoping that there would be 1 showcase 3rd party title that would be like ZOMG look at the RAY TRACING IN REAL TIMEZ. 4K 60 FPS only on the power of the series X. I thought Ubi would make some big deal about AC being NEXT GENZ with RAY TRACINGZ.
I guess MS is saving that for their 1st party showing or Ray tracing really isn't going to be a big thing next gen, at least at launch.
I was hoping for a deep down type reveal but seems like we didn't get that yet.
Isn't E3 cancelled?
Alter_Fridge
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DarkBatman
SBI’s Employee of the Year
To be fair, they announced the event with phrases like "Tomorrow changes the game. Or rather, the games do the changing."
If they'd just said that the first round will be mainly indies and AA publisher + Valhalla and the "bigger" games will follow in July, people would be way more positive.
itsjustJEFF
Member
I agree with him that they dropped the ball, but PS did as well. He's making a point that Xbox is far behind, right now, look at the current landscape of video games and you can't deny that. I don't think any of the games looked bad at all, they all looked good and better than what we have right now, except maybe Dirt 5 which is weird. But, i think it's easy to get let down when watching these things cause the of the hype we build up in our heads.
diffusionx
Gold Member
MS spent 2 months hyping up their console as revolutionary, muh teraflops, way better than Sony, alphabet soup of features like VRS, new era in vidya, etc. The only people who cared enough to watch this stream were the ones who heard all that hype. So then their big reveal showed games that look like current gen games, quite frankly. They should have known.
Ristifer
Gold Member
Wow. Cliché reactions to this. I'm shocked. I hate to be the voice of reason, since most won't listen, but even if it was Phil trimming his nosehairs, this one event doesn't define an entire generation. Nor will Sony's on June 4th, or whenever it happens.
Some of you blow your load way too quickly.
Some of you blow your load way too quickly.
MasterCornholio
Member
Why is it a weak claim to state that there will be more events in the future?
We will see next gen exclusives at some point in the future.
VlaudTheImpaler
tl;dr
All of it was in game and representative. But absolutely that would be the thing to complain about. Even I think they messed up there. But all this crap about, "wow, so much for the power of X, look at how crap this all looks! harhar...!" Is disingenuous.
Romulus
Member
Sony could show absolutely nothing and get better press than these videos garnered. Not only did the games not look good visually, worse, but they also look uninspired.
JareBear: Remastered
Banned
read the first two pages of this thread
everyone else on here seemed to know it was crossgen third party games only, read the multiple replies in the first two pages stating such
Reindeer
Member
You mean like PC with hardware from 2018? Let's be real, by the time true next games arrive PC hardware will once again be 2-3 generations ahead. Sure the console hardware can run cross gen games comparable to PC, but next gen games will be a different ball game. Let's not judge these consoles by cross gen games that by all accounts are still current gen.
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MasterCornholio
Member
In just wondering where these claims that Microsoft isn't ready for next gen are coming from?
They already showed a bit more than Sony and we have seen the actual console from them. That doesn't really indicate to me that they are not ready.
Alter_Fridge
Member
Nothing in that post says cross gen. It says next gen. What are you on about
I shouldn't have to go to some obscure thread at NeoFap to get more detail for a reveal open to the world
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Alter_Fridge
Member
Being first out of the gate doesn't = successico
nani17
are in a big trouble
So xbox told us in a tweet and people are freaking out no gameplay.
Sony told people in a tweet they were showing off the architecture and people freaked out
hmmm maybe people need to read or the fans boys need to relax or how about stop teasing the fucking consoles
Sony told people in a tweet they were showing off the architecture and people freaked out
hmmm maybe people need to read or the fans boys need to relax or how about stop teasing the fucking consoles
People that have been bashing Sony and saying Microsoft have had great communication. People said the PS5 showing with Cerny was shit. People were saying Knack was a strange game to show first for PS4. This isn't about fanboys or console wars, it's people's honest opinion of how bad this stream was and Microsoft hyping it up. They should have just said we will have a video of Series X enhanced games and Assassin's Creed and Madden.
Reindeer
Member
Nowhere there does it say crossgen third party games, rather it says "next gen gameplay" that we got none of. Nice try at damage control.
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Dr. Claus
Banned
Bright Memory Infinite – Graphical it looks nice, but it has this strange plastic-y look to it (though that could be due to watching it via YouTube on a 1080p TV). Game play looks interesting with its grapple and parkour mechanics, alongside the use of melee weapons and guns. Will need to see more, but I like what I see so far.
Dirt 5 – I haven't played any other game in this franchise. Looks gorgeous with some unique environments such as icy roads, rain drenched muddy off roads, large cityscapes. Will keep my eye out on it if reviews are good.
Scorn – a title long time in development and one that I haven't heard or seen much from in a while. Inspired by the work of HR Geiger, it looks like it is a very atmospheric and grotesquely beautiful game – but will it be fun to play? This I genuinely can't tell from the trailer or game play that I had seen thus far. Will need to wait for reviews, but since it *is* coming to Game Pass, there is very little that is stopping me from at least trying it out.
Chorvs - Space game play looks beautiful, but my god that character model looks like some low quality shit. Unless community reviews are great, I will more than likely skip this.
Madden 21 – Never cared for sports games so will completely skip this one.
Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines 2 - The models look disappointing and its animations are janky – but the environments? They look gorgeous. Let's hope the game is good, but given the agenda driven nature of some of its writers, I am very nervous about this one. I will have to wait for the community's thoughts before I decide if I will pick it up.
Call of the Sea - A bright, colourful, and cartoony aesthetic. The game looks very interesting. Will give it a try when it comes out for Game Pass.
The Ascent - Cyberpunk/futuristic aesthetic. A top down diablo-esque shooter with what seems like a large amount of customization? Co-op seems to be a major focus. Was never a huge fan of these kinds of games so I will skip it.
The Medium – No major game play to be seen, but it does seem like an interesting horror game. The graphics shown off does look interesting with the help of Akira Yamaoka providing the music. Definitely peaked my interest.
Scarlet Nexus - Bandai Namco come out of seemingly nowhere with this gorgeous looking title. Monsters composed of organic and inorganic parts, the ability to use Psychokinesis to attack and defend. The anime art style is dripping in style. Seems like a God Eater-esque adventure? Day one purchase for me. I am a sucker for these kinds of games.
Second Extinction - An alien shooter that seems to be based in an open-esque world. Possibly co-op? Seems heavily based on waves of enemies, primarily dinosaurs. Meh for me. Skipping.
Yakuza: Like a Dragon – Yakuza changes into a turn based rpg and from what has been said about it, the game is bloody brilliant. Excited to get my hands on this game, though I am still not sure if I will buy it on PS5 or Xbox Series X, mostly given that I tend to try and buy the same franchise on a particular system whenever I can (AC for Xbox, Yakuza for Sony, etc). Primarily it comes down to if there is any massive system differences or censorship.
Assassin's Creed Valhalla – After how much I despised Odyssey for its numerous blatant historical inaccuracies to push some asinine view of an idealized version of Greece, its blatant padding, and pushing users to spend money on "time savers", I am going to hold off on really diving into this one until I see reviews. The game looks beautiful, but graphics don't make a game. The game play, world, and story does. So far nothing has shown itself to be better or worse than the last entry.
Overall, glad to finally get some look at the games that are coming out, as that is all that is important to the console. While there is still no word on if these are launch titles, a few weeks/months after launch, or what-have-you - I am now a bit more excited for the next generation. The first year or two of a console are never indicative of the full power of a system, so it should never be expected. Things will improve as developers get used to the tools available.
Dirt 5 – I haven't played any other game in this franchise. Looks gorgeous with some unique environments such as icy roads, rain drenched muddy off roads, large cityscapes. Will keep my eye out on it if reviews are good.
Scorn – a title long time in development and one that I haven't heard or seen much from in a while. Inspired by the work of HR Geiger, it looks like it is a very atmospheric and grotesquely beautiful game – but will it be fun to play? This I genuinely can't tell from the trailer or game play that I had seen thus far. Will need to wait for reviews, but since it *is* coming to Game Pass, there is very little that is stopping me from at least trying it out.
Chorvs - Space game play looks beautiful, but my god that character model looks like some low quality shit. Unless community reviews are great, I will more than likely skip this.
Madden 21 – Never cared for sports games so will completely skip this one.
Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines 2 - The models look disappointing and its animations are janky – but the environments? They look gorgeous. Let's hope the game is good, but given the agenda driven nature of some of its writers, I am very nervous about this one. I will have to wait for the community's thoughts before I decide if I will pick it up.
Call of the Sea - A bright, colourful, and cartoony aesthetic. The game looks very interesting. Will give it a try when it comes out for Game Pass.
The Ascent - Cyberpunk/futuristic aesthetic. A top down diablo-esque shooter with what seems like a large amount of customization? Co-op seems to be a major focus. Was never a huge fan of these kinds of games so I will skip it.
The Medium – No major game play to be seen, but it does seem like an interesting horror game. The graphics shown off does look interesting with the help of Akira Yamaoka providing the music. Definitely peaked my interest.
Scarlet Nexus - Bandai Namco come out of seemingly nowhere with this gorgeous looking title. Monsters composed of organic and inorganic parts, the ability to use Psychokinesis to attack and defend. The anime art style is dripping in style. Seems like a God Eater-esque adventure? Day one purchase for me. I am a sucker for these kinds of games.
Second Extinction - An alien shooter that seems to be based in an open-esque world. Possibly co-op? Seems heavily based on waves of enemies, primarily dinosaurs. Meh for me. Skipping.
Yakuza: Like a Dragon – Yakuza changes into a turn based rpg and from what has been said about it, the game is bloody brilliant. Excited to get my hands on this game, though I am still not sure if I will buy it on PS5 or Xbox Series X, mostly given that I tend to try and buy the same franchise on a particular system whenever I can (AC for Xbox, Yakuza for Sony, etc). Primarily it comes down to if there is any massive system differences or censorship.
Assassin's Creed Valhalla – After how much I despised Odyssey for its numerous blatant historical inaccuracies to push some asinine view of an idealized version of Greece, its blatant padding, and pushing users to spend money on "time savers", I am going to hold off on really diving into this one until I see reviews. The game looks beautiful, but graphics don't make a game. The game play, world, and story does. So far nothing has shown itself to be better or worse than the last entry.
Overall, glad to finally get some look at the games that are coming out, as that is all that is important to the console. While there is still no word on if these are launch titles, a few weeks/months after launch, or what-have-you - I am now a bit more excited for the next generation. The first year or two of a console are never indicative of the full power of a system, so it should never be expected. Things will improve as developers get used to the tools available.
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Portugeezer
Member
Some great looking stuff in this presentation, but where did the 12 Tflops go?
Also don't say gameplay when it's not gameplay, people sucking their dicks for their clear communication and they do this... (sorry it's such an old bait and switch, a pet peeve of mine)
Also don't say gameplay when it's not gameplay, people sucking their dicks for their clear communication and they do this... (sorry it's such an old bait and switch, a pet peeve of mine)
cormack12
Gold Member
Think Microsoft are carrying the can for underwhelming games for the most part. Even Valhalla didn;t lift it at the end really. Having said that, there are some games that look decent. The models etc. were all rooted in current gen, but all the clips were 60fps, and like I said earlier had the bells and whistles like particle, smoke, fog, lighting etc. I think what we saw today were games designed for this gen but had the optimise pack/build applied. The games didn't look AAA but we're in the middle of a drought and some of them were solid AA territory.
We just saw a presntation of 3rd party games that are coming to PS5 and XsX and MS hosted the event to show off their optimisation tech. We're all thirsty for next gen stuff and 1st party stuff but it's coming.
Good summary. Top marks.
We just saw a presntation of 3rd party games that are coming to PS5 and XsX and MS hosted the event to show off their optimisation tech. We're all thirsty for next gen stuff and 1st party stuff but it's coming.
Good summary. Top marks.
VlaudTheImpaler
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That sounds incredibly unfair to those smaller studios. I think people need to take a step back and realize that these smaller studios have a tiny fraction of the marketing budget that these larger one do. It can be a huge blessing for them to get any kind of exposure and to preface an event with something akin to, "here are our crap tier games, ps. the "better" ones come later so you don't need to watch" just seems so wrong. Especially when some of the games shown actually DO look really interesting.