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[cryptoadam]

A school in France:

Kids gotta go back to school. We already took 1/3rd of their year of education. Another year will just be to much damage.

Gotta find a way to do this. Even if its wearinf stupid hats or what their doing in france kids need education and you cant hold back a whole generation for an entire year.

I hopw they can come up with some good ideas for this. Gonna suck to be a kid from now on. Recess seems like it will be some hella BS.

 

[Meowzers]

Same! I love that movie but man is it scary once you start seeing it begin in real life.

As soon as it started being taken seriously here in UK, I watched it..and was disappointed they didn't keep the 2m distance.

 

[holygeesus]

I'd hate to know how you would define "managed negotiating life poorly"...jesus fucking christ, cognitive dissonance much?

You realise people don't always get to choose the shit thrown their way in life, such as disability or poor health? The fact that she managed to emerge from such issues and continue to live her life says a lot. She probably would have wanted to continue living said life, no matter how limited or worthless you and other people in this thread seem to deem it.

"it is only killing the old and infirm, fuck them"

 

[Joe T.]

Figured this deserved some attention here since Florida got trashed so hard in the early days:

Two aspects of his remarks stood out for me. The first was how aggrieved he sounded. Practically since the coronavirus hit Florida, DeSantis has been pilloried for the way he has handled the crisis. He was late in calling for a statewide lockdown. He barred a journalist from a news conference after she requested that he accommodate the need for social distancing. He refused to shut down churches and synagogues. Following Trump's lead, he touted the anti-malarial drug hydroxychloroquine as a treatment for the virus. His harshest critic, the Miami Herald, began an editorial in mid-April this way:

"You know what Florida really needs right now? A governor."

And the second thing that struck me about the governor's remarks? How sensible they sounded. Seriously. Why was Florida opening its parks? Because, he said, even in a pandemic, open spaces were necessary for peace of mind. And because the evidence showed that the risk of contracting the virus was much lower outdoors than indoors. And because maintaining proper social distancing in parks was not terribly difficult.

Why had Florida decided to keep its restrictions on the three counties encompassing Miami and Palm Beach? Because those were the places with the highest density and the largest number of deaths and hospitalizations. In the rest of the state, the story was much different. He began ticking off the daily number of new cases in Duval County since the beaches opened: 11, 19, 18, 17, 24, 4, 10, 6. One of DeSantis's mantras has been that Florida should not take a one-size-fits-all approach to coronavirus mitigation. Didn't these numbers prove his point?

He also made some points that are considered impolitic these days. In the first phase of Florida's reopening, social distancing will still be enforced; restaurants can't exceed 50% capacity, for instance. And the elderly will still remain quarantined; indeed, with rare exceptions, Florida doesn't even allow nursing homes residents to have visitors.

Florida, DeSantis said again and again, was being guided by "facts, data and science." His many critics disagree, accusing him of playing to Trump in handling the crisis. But if you take even a cursory look at Florida's numbers, they tend to bear him out. DeSantis is right about how the virus treats the young differently from the old. In Florida, people 65 and older account for 26% of all cases but 83% of the deaths. People younger than 55 account for only 7% of the death toll.

Could have used someone like him up here in Quebec, might have saved hundreds of lives and job numbers in the six figure range. The full opinion piece is worth a read, attempts to cover it down the middle despite his self-confessed bias. I did laugh over the subheading, though.

 

[rykomatsu]

You realise people don't always get to choose the shit thrown their way in life, such as disability or poor health? The fact that she managed to emerge from such issues and continue to live her life says a lot. She probably would have wanted to continue living said life, no matter how limited or worthless you and other people in this thread seem to deem it.

"it is only killing the old and infirm, fuck them"

1. Point to me exactly where I explicitly said that her life was worthless - not implied, but explicitly where did I mention this? Otherwise keep this bullshit to yourself.
2. By any objective measure, how has she negotiated life just fine? She got the short end of the stick repeatedly. Not once did I say this was a good thing or bad thing. It just is. Your train of thought is exactly the same as the "so what you're saying is..." crap that Cathy Newman tried to pull on Jordan Peterson

 

[Deleted member 17706]

Figured this deserved some attention here since Florida got trashed so hard in the early days:



Could have used someone like him up here in Quebec, might have saved hundreds of lives and job numbers in the six figure range. The full opinion piece is worth a read, attempts to cover it down the middle despite his self-confessed bias. I did laugh over the subheading, though.

It is interesting how you just stopped hearing about Florida after those initial beach shots came out and everyone projected that the state was doomed.

 

[rykomatsu]

It is interesting how you just stopped hearing about Florida after those initial beach shots came out and everyone projected that the state was doomed.

I think objectively the next 1-2 weeks is going to be more telling - it takes more like 3-4 weeks for a policy change to be reflected in the numbers I think since human societal behavior isn't like flipping a switch.

That said, maybe Florida's situation is a bit different since things didn't go full shut down to begin with.

Overall, there are things that are puzzling me a bit. Ohio is combining serological data with symptom onset dates and finding 5 folks infected in Jan. Mysterious flu like symptoms originated around CES in the US, France had its first case in Dec, infection around mid-Dec is hypothesized.

On one hand, we are being told of the high infectiveness of COVID. On the flip side, the math, when you move the first cases back by 1-2 months just doesn't add up.

 

[The Scrivener]

A school in France:

That has to be fake, come on man.

 

[ManaByte]

That has to be fake, come on man.

Nope it's real. Here's the full pic. You can see the teacher wearing a mask.

 

[The Scrivener]

You realise people don't always get to choose the shit thrown their way in life, such as disability or poor health? The fact that she managed to emerge from such issues and continue to live her life says a lot. She probably would have wanted to continue living said life, no matter how limited or worthless you and other people in this thread seem to deem it.

"it is only killing the old and infirm, fuck them"

You have some good points.

Thing is, science saved her for longer than it should have in the first place.

One could say Covid killed her, but what kind of moral distinction is that?

She died because of the state of her life. Covid was just one too many.

I don't want to be a cold heartless bastard, I don't blame the author, I'm blaming the press for publishing this shit.

 

[The Scrivener]

Nope it's real. Here's the full pic. You can see the teacher wearing a mask.

I work in education too, although not primary schools, but university.

The professionals I know and see pretty much all support depressing measures like this.

I disagree with most of it.

Edit: Wife's a teacher too, and she says this must be some kind of activity, not just break time.

 

[nush]

Posted yet? WHO and China conspiring.

 

[Lanrutcon]

Thing is, science saved her for longer than it should have in the first place.

That's true for almost every single member of our race. Take science out of the equation, and most of us die at child birth and the rest are lucky to make it to 30. We broke the natural order ages ago. Poor argument.

 

[The Scrivener]

That's true for almost every single member of our race. Take science out of the equation, and most of us die at child birth and the rest are lucky to make it to 30. We broke the natural order ages ago. Poor argument.

My main issue is the propaganda of the piece. Between the paragraph listing the patient's suffering and the paragraph saying it was Covid that killed her, there were two paragraphs of fluff.

Fluff that, as you can read for yourself, says it was her positive outlook that saved her this whole time. Only, Covid is so severe, that it kills even that.

I didn't put this in my original post as I didn't want to add too much commentary, I just wanted to highlight the main propaganda we are up against.

It is advocating for what Bill Gates calls Death Panels and what David Icke reports as Death Pills. It is also advocating for misrecording death by Covid numbers, as per Musk's recent argument on Rogan.

Maybe my science point is faulty, but so is the "bullets did it" argument, and so is the message the MSM are sending to the public.

 

[nbcjr]

Nope it's real. Here's the full pic. You can see the teacher wearing a mask.

That's absurd and just plain sad.

 

[llien]

Fully organic Wulhan Virus cure from Madagascar:

Coronavirus: Caution urged over Madagascar's 'herbal cure'

The WHO says there is no proof after the country's president claims a herbal tonic has cured people.

www.bbc.com

My son went to (elementary) school this Monday (Germany, NRW).
They split the class into groups of about 10, each group is supposed to go to school once a week.
Other covid measures are in place, wearing masks, etc.

 

[NeoIkaruGAF]

Italy's plan for restaurants:

4 square meters for each client (yes, the newspaper actually wrote that the red square is 4x4 meters... )

Seeing this, the first thing that crossed my mind is that this will surely lead to a loss of income.

 

[Starlight Lotice]

Just got tested today. Been feeling slight chest pain for 2 days on and off. I mostly feel it later on in the day. Like today I thought it was gone but started feeling it again around 6:00pm. I hope it's just anxiety

You might have it then as I get flare ups at random times but at Night it is at its worst.

Hope you get better though if it isn't! It's horrible having it.

 

[Jezbollah]

Dr John back with more pro vitamin D evidence. This time from Harvard University.

Human biology for the win.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

as much as he speaks on Vitamin D I wonder why it is not being hoarded like toilet paper and masks yet

 

[hariseldon]

as much as he speaks on Vitamin D I wonder why it is not being hoarded like toilet paper and masks yet

Because people are idiots.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Because people are idiots.

Well not that I want them to wake up and start hording bottles of this stuff. I need access to this shit now.

Still it feels like everyone is sleeping on this Vitamin D thing it is like in the background and no one wants to promote it. It kinda makes me skeptical if it really does what it is said to do but enough Dr. Campbell videos has pushed me over.

I have to drink Ensure because my doctor wants me to, and it has 60% daily servings of Vitamin D I've been drinking 2 of those per day but I feel getting some pills would be easier to keep track of what I am taking in. I want as many tools as I can have to fight the crazy shit out here.

 

[hariseldon]

Well not that I want them to wake up and start hording bottles of this stuff. I need access to this shit now.

Still it feels like everyone is sleeping on this Vitamin D thing it is like in the background and no one wants to promote it. It kinda makes me skeptical if it really does what it is said to do but enough Dr. Campbell videos has pushed me over.

I have to drink Ensure because my doctor wants me to, and it has 60% daily servings of Vitamin D I've been drinking 2 of those per day but I feel getting some pills would be easier to keep track of what I am taking in. I want as many tools as I can have to fight the crazy shit out here.

Personally I've been taking a supplement with 25mg of vitamin D and about 500% of the RDA of vitamin C in addition to a regular multivitamin which has 100% of most things. 2 tablets a day and I've got supplies to last me a good number of months. I suggest you do the same (there's plenty on Amazon).

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Personally I've been taking a supplement with 25mg of vitamin D and about 500% of the RDA of vitamin C in addition to a regular multivitamin which has 100% of most things. 2 tablets a day and I've got supplies to last me a good number of months. I suggest you do the same (there's plenty on Amazon).

yeah damn good idea to have some extra bottles for the months ahead, I subscribed to Amazon to mail every 3 months but who knows.

 

[hariseldon]

yeah damn good idea to have some extra bottles for the months ahead, I subscribed to Amazon to mail every 3 months but who knows.

It's worth having additional stock in case subscriptions get unreliable. Most of the things that matter I have 6 months worth of (food about 9 months - glad my laziness meant I didn't get round to selling the old freezer after buying a new one).

 

[Smiles and Cries]

It's worth having additional stock in case subscriptions get unreliable. Most of the things that matter I have 6 months worth of (food about 9 months - glad my laziness meant I didn't get round to selling the old freezer after buying a new one).

Yeah just ordered another 2 more bottles that last 6 months making it 5 bottles coming out soon.

I had to look up what is the difference between vitamin D3 and vitamin D2

Vitamin D2 is ergocalciferol and comes from plant-based sources. Vitamin D3 is cholecalciferol and comes from animal-based sources. Both supplements are processed in the body by the liver to 25-hydroxyvitamin D, though vitamin D3 is thought to provide higher levels of 25D. Must be a vegan thing.

 

[Liljagare]

If low vitamin D levels are connected to the cytotoxic reaction (your t-killer cells eat your lungs), then why aren't we seeing more recommendations on supplements, is one thought that hit me.

 

[Sakura]

I started taking vitamin D3 supplements a month ago and I think I'm starting to get more body hair.

 

[synchronicity]

as much as he speaks on Vitamin D I wonder why it is not being hoarded like toilet paper and masks yet

You don't have to hoard it, you just have to go outside.

 

[cryptoadam]

Dr John back with more pro vitamin D evidence. This time from Harvard University.

Human biology for the win.

Hope this doesn't get buried because certain people biologically have lower vitamin D levels and for some reason science has to end there.

 

[cryptoadam]

Well not that I want them to wake up and start hording bottles of this stuff. I need access to this shit now.

Still it feels like everyone is sleeping on this Vitamin D thing it is like in the background and no one wants to promote it. It kinda makes me skeptical if it really does what it is said to do but enough Dr. Campbell videos has pushed me over.

I have to drink Ensure because my doctor wants me to, and it has 60% daily servings of Vitamin D I've been drinking 2 of those per day but I feel getting some pills would be easier to keep track of what I am taking in. I want as many tools as I can have to fight the crazy shit out here.

I honestly think its simply because its saying black people have a higher chance of getting it so that all of a sudden leads down the whole racism rabbit hole which is BS but thats the way it is.

I got my Vitamin D pills yesterday along with come Vitamin C and Zinc.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

You don't have to hoard it, you just have to go outside.

I'm black apparently that does not do me as much good

I honestly think its simply because its saying black people have a higher chance of getting it so that all of a sudden leads down the whole racism rabbit hole which is BS but thats the way it is.

I got my Vitamin D pills yesterday along with come Vitamin C and Zinc.

I am not sure what is more racist, avoiding talking about an issue that black folks could easily avoid by taking Vitamin D or informing the people of the truth of how biology and evolution works.

like it was posted about since you can simply go out into a sunny place and have your body create Vitamin D as normal, not telling black folks they have a natural sunblock that slows down this process is kinda weird.

could be the answer there people don't care

 

[ManaByte]

I am not sure what is more racist, avoiding talking about an issue that black folks could easily avoid by taking Vitamin D or informing the people of the truth of how biology and evolution works.

You forget that biology and evolution is racist, transphobic, and homophobic. So that sort of science isn't allowed.

 

[Djau]

Because people are idiots.

Because a vaccine is far more important or a good antiviral that works against it.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

You forget that biology and evolution is racist, transphobic, and homophobic. So that sort of science isn't allowed.

boy do I get that understanding a lot, yeah that type of talk is not encouraged
one of the things that hurts me to most about the communities I am part of is the fact that a lot of folks don't find any value in Science and asking questions of how things work.

You would think a people who have a history of being fucked over would want to learn about all the ways they could be fucked by asking good questions

black Jesus help me

 

[ManaByte]

Because a vaccine is far more important or a good antiviral that works against it.

Where are the SARS and MERS vaccines? People screaming that we must have a vaccine for COVID before allowing people to work are ignoring reality that we've never successfully made a vaccine for any coronavirus.

 

[synchronicity]

I'm black apparently that does not do me as much good



I am not sure what is more racist, avoiding talking about an issue that black folks could easily avoid by taking Vitamin D or informing the people of the truth of how biology and evolution works.

like it was posted about since you can simply go out into a sunny place and have your body create Vitamin D as normal, not telling black folks they have a natural sunblock that slows down this process is kinda weird.

could be the answer there people don't care

Sorry if I came across as insensitive to the melanin enhanced folk of the world - not my intent. However we get it, we all need vitamin D, and almost everyone in this modern world is really deficient.

And my personal advice is to always treat health naturally. And some foods can elevate vitamin D - like mushrooms, sardines, salmon, etc. Our bodies respond best to what they are naturally designed to process, and food is more readily recognized and absorbed than supplements in most cases.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Sorry if I came across as insensitive to the melanin enhanced folk of the world - not my intent. However we get it, we all need vitamin D, and almost everyone in this modern world is really deficient.

And my personal advice is to always treat health naturally. And some foods can elevate vitamin D - like mushrooms, sardines, salmon, etc. Our bodies respond best to what they are naturally designed to process, and food is more readily recognized and absorbed than supplements in most cases.

meh I'm not on ResetEra I don't really walk with my racism radar going on alert 24/7 anymore that SJW shit holds you back we can't learn a damn thing doing that all day, what you said was just normal shit going out and getting more sun is an easy way of getting vitamin d.

that list of natural foods damn man, none of these are my favorite foods, not going out of my way to eat that stuff if I can pop a pill.
If you said Chicken now I would be cured of this issue. That was not a race joke, I just love chicken sue me.

 

[hariseldon]

Because a vaccine is far more important or a good antiviral that works against it.

I don't think anybody is saying otherwise, but anything that gives a little boost has to be welcomed. Vitamin D does appear to have some useful effect, and thus it's a good idea to take some.

 

[cryptoadam]

meh I'm not on ResetEra I don't really walk with my racism radar going on alert 24/7 anymore that SJW shit holds you back we can't learn a damn thing doing that all day, what you said was just normal shit going out and getting more sun is an easy way of getting vitamin d.

that list of natural foods damn man, none of these are my favorite foods, not going out of my way to eat that stuff if I can pop a pill.
If you said Chicken now I would be cured of this issue. That was not a race joke, I just love chicken sue me.

Chicken is the best, there is no argument against it. PERIOD!

 

[hariseldon]

meh I'm not on ResetEra I don't really walk with my racism radar going on alert 24/7 anymore that SJW shit holds you back we can't learn a damn thing doing that all day, what you said was just normal shit going out and getting more sun is an easy way of getting vitamin d.

that list of natural foods damn man, none of these are my favorite foods, not going out of my way to eat that stuff if I can pop a pill.
If you said Chicken now I would be cured of this issue. That was not a race joke, I just love chicken sue me.

If chicken is a black thing then damn I must be the blackest white guy ever. Damn I could murder some fried chicken right now. Nowhere open selling it which is driving me nuts. Come back KFC ffs!

 

[cryptoadam]

I know some people probably have some crazy ass chicken recipes, but I can just throw a breast in the oven for about 30 mins and have some garlic sauce dip and I am set.

 

[Djau]

Where are the SARS and MERS vaccines? People screaming that we must have a vaccine for COVID before allowing people to work are ignoring reality that we've never successfully made a vaccine for any coronavirus.

Where is SARS and MERS spreading in America?

 

[diffusionx]

You realise people don't always get to choose the shit thrown their way in life, such as disability or poor health? The fact that she managed to emerge from such issues and continue to live her life says a lot. She probably would have wanted to continue living said life, no matter how limited or worthless you and other people in this thread seem to deem it.

"it is only killing the old and infirm, fuck them"

More like, "it is only killing the old and infirm, let's put our resources into protecting them while letting the rest of us live our lives."

That's only, you know, the way our civilization has been set up since the beginning. You forget that we are a species that built civilizations through shit like smallpox, polio, and the Black Plague, and found ways to go on. But keep fucking that chicken dude.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

I know some people probably have some crazy ass chicken recipes, but I can just throw a breast in the oven for about 30 mins and have some garlic sauce dip and I am set.

I can't wait for GMO Science to put everything I need in a Chicken Breast.
All the Vitamin D I could want and all the letters inbetween


(don't take this serious, I don't even like the taste of orange juice with calcium added) Not Anti-GMO though.

 

[Collz69]

You forget that biology and evolution is racist, transphobic, and homophobic. So that sort of science isn't allowed.

And if you ask a question and the answer is "ask China" that is also racist if the person asking the question is Asian.

 

[Nymphae]

Where is SARS and MERS spreading in America?

Was it spreading? How did that stop?

 

[ManaByte]

Was it spreading? How did that stop?

Maybe people should ask Pence. As he was the one who stopped it in his state.

 

[HellforLeather]

If chicken is a black thing then damn I must be the blackest white guy ever. Damn I could murder some fried chicken right now. Nowhere open selling it which is driving me nuts. Come back KFC ffs!

The food-black-people-like stereotype always seemed bizarre to me. Who sat down and thought "lets compile all the most delicious foods and use them as a slight against black people for enjoying them!"

...like, what?

 

[cryptoadam]

Im just wondering whats the plan if the vaccine doesn't work. Oxford says it works in monkeys but it still needs to be proven to work in humans.

So what if the vaccine basket fails? Whats the plan then? Its a very real possibility that all this optimism around a vaccine is just that and we are going to need a plan b.