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[JareBear: Remastered]

I know HZD2 won't be using UE5 (at least I assume not) but still just the talk of draw distances and elimination of distracting LOD pop-in next gen gets me very antsy in my pantsy. I always notice the little details like a bush popping up 10 feet in front of me in an otherwise gorgeous game. HZD is gorgeous but definitely has LOD pop in all over the place, as most games this gen do of that scale. Can't wait to see the leap in this area

Bring On Da Next Gen

 

[Vawn]

Sony didn't DO anything today. Epic did. Sony had nothing to do with the Unreal Engine 5. Sony paid Epic money to not mention competition. That is what happened today. Everything you saw today will be on all major platforms next generation.

I was talking about marketing strategies. I don't doubt Series X can match the graphics (but maybe not the load times).

But what we saw was running on PS5, not Xbox. Just like the games on Inside Xbox were running on Series X, not PS5.

That doesn't mean they can't match each other, but those are the first impressions each company chose to put out there.

 

[ScaryBrandon]

WOW!!! What I've been waiting for for ages

You wont see visuals like that in any next gen console game.

I was talking about marketing strategies. I don't doubt Series X can match the graphics (but maybe not the load times).

But what we saw was running on PS5, not Xbox. Just like the games on Inside Xbox were running on Series X, not PS5.

That doesn't mean they can't match each other, but those are the first impressions each company chose to put out there.

Any game you can imagine on ps5 can run and look better on xbox series x. Its so simple even someone like you can grasp it.

 

[Drewpee]

Yep that looks next gen

Why just ps5 on it tho, won't it be Xbox too? Or is Sony got some sort of hand in this?

Let the Sony fans have their day. We do not need to remind them that the same level of detail or better will be on XsX.

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

I was talking about marketing strategies. I don't doubt Series X can match the graphics (but maybe not the load times).

But what we saw was running on PS5, not Xbox. Just like the games on Inside Xbox were running on Series X, not PS5.

That doesn't mean they can't match each other, but those are the first impressions each company chose to put out there.

Did Sony strike some sort of deal with Epic to have this shown off on PS5 first?

 

[onQ123]

I'm just hearing things now.

They labeled me a troll for trying to inform them

People downplaying PS5 I/O bandwidth fail to realize that 16GB of RAM is a small upgrade from last Gen & the SSD is going to be it's life line

The trips to the SSD is going to be frequent & nothing like before when you load a level into RAM then play the level. Next Gen consoles will be moving data from the SSD on a frame by frame bases. Sony made sure to get a higher bandwidth than what was on the market before PCIe 4.0 so...

www.neogaf.com

To put PS5 5.5GB/s SSD in prospective PS4 only had 5.5GB of RAM available for games

With that in mind what was once the limit that a dev could use per load screen without data streaming can now be streamed in every second. that's 90MB each frame , a RAW file from a 24MP camera is around 25MB so the level of detail that could be pushed to the screen could be insane. PS4 HDD...

www.neogaf.com

 

[alabtrosMyster]

Probably games that's more like a walking movie simulator will probably look close to this for sure.

cut the details in half to get 60fps.... hmm nobody will notice the quality difference, but we will notice the smoothness!

 

[Vawn]

ok but the xbox version of this would look/perform better...

So they keep saying. I'm still waiting for the receipts.

 

[Spukc]

They labeled me a troll for trying to inform them

People downplaying PS5 I/O bandwidth fail to realize that 16GB of RAM is a small upgrade from last Gen & the SSD is going to be it's life line

The trips to the SSD is going to be frequent & nothing like before when you load a level into RAM then play the level. Next Gen consoles will be moving data from the SSD on a frame by frame bases. Sony made sure to get a higher bandwidth than what was on the market before PCIe 4.0 so...

www.neogaf.com

To put PS5 5.5GB/s SSD in prospective PS4 only had 5.5GB of RAM available for games

With that in mind what was once the limit that a dev could use per load screen without data streaming can now be streamed in every second. that's 90MB each frame , a RAW file from a 24MP camera is around 25MB so the level of detail that could be pushed to the screen could be insane. PS4 HDD...

www.neogaf.com

Report me for starting troll threads. Ban warning.?

 

[Rolla]

Sony are spiteful and petty as fuck

They're control the conversation with a fucking gameplay demo. Where is the "Sony is too quite crowd" now? You are not prepared for the PS5 marketing onslaught.

 

[psorcerer]

But the answer is pretty simple, a new console generation is coming up and having the engine tied to the generational shift is beneficial to marketing the engine; also console vendors might be interested in having their system tied to early demonstrations of tech demos. This could absolutely run on a PC (and naturally XSX, because it is basically a slightly stronger PS5), but PC does not carry the "next gen" flair.

Good spin. But they could run it the same way on PC. And say the same things: coming to both consoles.
Like they always did before.

 

[alabtrosMyster]

I don't know what led to it being shown on PS5 first but I am sure MS will get a the demo shown on their hardware too

Unreal engine 4 was demoed on the PS4 before the xb1 as well.

 

[Sota4077]

You're the one with the conspiracy theories buddy not me I asked for proof of your claims and you gave me nothing , better to stick to the topic of the thread instead of throwing baseless claims around .

 

[Dontero]

Looks amazing but there are some things here that fire bullshit alert in me:

- frame-rate was atrocious. Sub 30fps for a tech demo. No way real game looking like that would even be 10fps.
- despite claiming that every light is real yellow light coming out of device at the end didn't gave any light
- i don't see how this can fit into VRAM if they are really using raw assets. For those who don't know some assets can be 10-20GBs each let alone scenes which could be terrabytes of data.

Imho demo was not actually on PS5 but on some professional PC with 20-30GB of VRAM.

And for those who want to say "you don't know anyhing" etc. UE4 also was presented with tech demo that was running "real time on next gen consoles" that in the end was cut down in scope and its main feature global illumination was also cut out demo also went back from 60fps to sub 30fps.

original UE4 tech-demo



console version of that tech-demo:

I think is likely due to the deal SONY has with them.

PCIExpress 4.0 is rather new. There are already SSDs with 5GB/s and there should be better ones in following months. Both new consoles aren't using some space tech, just bog standard PCIExpress4.0.

Are you really comparing this to a gameplay demo?

It wasn't gameplay demo because it was techdemo. Techdemo =/= game.

 

[Sota4077]

Those big anime eyes

I might be crazy but after looking at the crazy ass world they created for the tech demo when they panned back to her like that I actually thought she did not look good. Goes to show that they are pulling off some crazy shit.

 

[Croatoan]

Naughty Dog needs to take tips from Epic on how to create female characters it seems.

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

They labeled me a troll for trying to inform them

People downplaying PS5 I/O bandwidth fail to realize that 16GB of RAM is a small upgrade from last Gen & the SSD is going to be it's life line

The trips to the SSD is going to be frequent & nothing like before when you load a level into RAM then play the level. Next Gen consoles will be moving data from the SSD on a frame by frame bases. Sony made sure to get a higher bandwidth than what was on the market before PCIe 4.0 so...

www.neogaf.com

To put PS5 5.5GB/s SSD in prospective PS4 only had 5.5GB of RAM available for games

With that in mind what was once the limit that a dev could use per load screen without data streaming can now be streamed in every second. that's 90MB each frame , a RAW file from a 24MP camera is around 25MB so the level of detail that could be pushed to the screen could be insane. PS4 HDD...

www.neogaf.com

Yes. I'm sure this tells THE WHOLE story.

 

[ethomaz]

Let the Sony fans have their day. We do not need to remind them that the same level of detail or better will be on XsX.

Let's see first how SSD will bootleneck Xbox One Series X.
Because that demo was clearly taking advantage of the SSD arch like they said in the stream.

 

[SirKicksalot]

Remember when the original Unreal Engine 4 demo looked better on PC? IIRC that lighting model in the PC demo was entirely replaced with the one in the PS4 version.

 

[Solarstrike]

Gimme dat Bloodborne 2

 

[TGO]

Wow it took PS5 footage for Next-Gen to arrive.
Looks amazing

 

[GymWolf]

I might be crazy but after looking at the crazy ass world they created for the tech demo when they panned back to her like that I actually thought she did not look good. Goes to show that they are pulling off some crazy shit.

The character is not even better than current gen top tier characters tbh.

But then again, i watched the video at 1080p, maybe the 4k version has far more details.

 

[Solarstrike]

Gimme dem triangles


4k resolution available, click the gear icon

 

[Vawn]

Dude. Sony did not create the technical demo. Epic did. Today had nothing to do with Sony outside of the obvious fact it was running in engine on a PlayStation 5.

There. That's better.

 

[Shmunter]

the main question people should ask themselves: why it was not shown on PC?

Hehe, why bro? Why cause the pain?

 

[Drewpee]

Let's see first how SSD will bootleneck Xbox One Series X.
Because that demo was clearly taking advantage of the SSD arch like they said in the stream.

Absolutely

 

[Yoshi]

Good spin. But they could run it the same way on PC. And say the same things: coming to both consoles.
Like they always did before.

So you want to tell me, what Epic actually wants to do with this demo is say (without saying it) "this is only possible on PS5, not XSX and PC"? Talk about spin....

 

[Fbh]

Looking great, finally something with a more "next gen" look than what has been shown so far.

Also LOL at there being more gameplay from..."unreal engine 5" than the new Assassins Creed

 

[bumleforce]

Wait this demo was 1440p 30 FPS on a ps5? And it's a demo which is supposed to really show everything off. This is really disappointing. Looks like lots of 30fps games at low Rez coming again

 

[Lanrutcon]

Cool tech demo.

But then, they always are.

 

[FireFly]

Good spin. But they could run it the same way on PC. And say the same things: coming to both consoles.
Like they always did before.

I think there's more excitement about the first reveal of something running on the PS5, than there is about seeing another high end PC demo. Especially if it was running on a 2080 Ti or something.

In fact if it was a PC demo, I bet we'd see the usual suspects claiming that consoles could never display this level of fidelity. (Hmmm, I wonder what happened to those guys?)

 

[psorcerer]

So you want to tell me, what Epic actually wants to do with this demo is say (without saying it) "this is only possible on PS5, not XSX and PC"? Talk about spin....

No. Not at all: "the easiest platform to get that kind of performance fast is PS5".

 

[Entroyp]

Damn can't even imagine how good FFVIIR part 2 will look on UE6 on PS6 in 2026.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

DF: demo runs at 1440p/30

Is that legit or are you joking?

I mean, I personally don't mind; higher resolutions usually hold back on graphical detail by and large anyway. But c'mon, 30 FPS? <sigh>

Still hoping we get majority 60 FPS games this gen like with 6th gen.

 

[fallingdove]

Holy shit. This is what I needed to get me hyped for next gen. PS5 Games are going to be incredible.

 

[MasterCornholio]

meh. this is just a tech demo, not gameplay.

Well it's the same thing as the HellBlade 2 demo.

It really just meant to give us a rough idea of what games will look like on the PS5. Thankfully the demo was done on an actual console instead of a PC which is something that Epic has done in the past.

 

[Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule]

BIG meh, pretty similar to the Last Tomb Raider.
Last tech demo impressed me was Deep Down back in 2013.
Diminishing returns is hiting hard on gaming don't try to hide it.

 

[Tripolygon]

Sony didn't DO anything today. Epic did. Sony had nothing to do with the Unreal Engine 5. Sony paid Epic money to not mention competition. That is what happened today. Everything you saw today will be on all major platforms next generation.

Let me tell you what Sony did and does for all developers as does Microsoft.

They provide the dev kit
They provide the necessary documentation that allow Epic to make their engine run on PS5/XSX
They provide the expertise and support.

What do you think happens, Dev kits just magically appear at Epic and they automatically know how to properly make use of it? They provide software, tools, profilers and programming support/expertise.

And I can assure you they did not pay for Epic not to mention competition. They chose to align their debut of Unreal Engine 5 on consoles with PS5 just like they did with Unreal Engine 4 on PS4. Not everything is some kind of money grab. Also Tim does not like Microsoft very much. Lol

 

[Kagey K]

Is that legit or are you joking?

I mean, I personally don't mind; higher resolutions usually hold back on graphical detail by and large anyway. But c'mon, 30 FPS? <sigh>

Still hoping we get majority 60 FPS games this gen like with 6th gen.

DF confirmed it to be accurate. 1440/30

 

[Yoshi]

No. Not at all: "the easiest platform to get that kind of performance fast is PS5".

And where do you get that information from?

 

[niilokin]

As a 3D noob when this comes out and if it's accessible for hobbyists I could just throw in Zbrush models straight from the software and dick around with real time lighting like a mad scientist?

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

No. Not at all: "the easiest platform to get that kind of performance fast is PS5".

Why are you doing Sony's marketing for them in a thread discussing Epic's UE5 demo running on a PS5 devkit for reasons anybody not fighting with a dog in the console warrior race would assume is down to a friendly marketing deal like how these companies have always done in the past?

Just chill and enjoy the demo for what it is, bro.

DF confirmed it to be accurate. 1440/30

Meh, I'll live. Devs do what devs gotta do. And it's just a demo; if it were a game going into full-blown development I bet they could optimize things even further to hit higher clocks and maybe a somewhat higher resolution while keep the same level of detail (or maybe slightly increase it).

Anyway this demo basically made this week in next-gen anticipation worth it xD.

 

[Vawn]

Unreal engine 4 was demoed on the PS4 before the xb1 as well.

And there was a reason for that which had nothing to do with Sony's money.

 

[GenericUser]

This changes EVERYTHING. Limitless, easy to implement geometry, changes everything. God, what a time to be alive! This is more then I would have expected from the UE5. A work of magic.

 

[ethomaz]

Is that legit or are you joking?

I mean, I personally don't mind; higher resolutions usually hold back on graphical detail by and large anyway. But c'mon, 30 FPS? <sigh>

Still hoping we get majority 60 FPS games this gen like with 6th gen.

It is dynamic resolution if I'm not wrong from 1440p to 2160p.

 

[psorcerer]

And where do you get that information from?

Outer space!

 

[Stuart360]

DF confirmed it to be accurate. 1440/30

1620p-1800p on XSX confirmed?

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

The Unreal Engine 5 PS5 Demo Isn't a Real Game, But It Is Fully Playable - IGN

The Unreal Engine 5 demo for PS5 is not a real game, but Epic confirmed that it is fully playable and would have been demoed at GDC.

www.ign.com

 

[Breakage]

The lighting and level of detail are Incredible.

 

[Jigsaah]

Impressive demo. Hopefully the games can mimic this in about 3 or 4 years.