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[TheWisp]

Those people over at Resetera love to dunk on people holy shit, I've never seen something like this.

Look at this, they don't give a fuck.

What that guy wrote on the bieber thread:

Holy shit. How are they so fast to deem someone a disgusting scumbag monster, this shit is honestly maddening. Dear lord.
They make a ton of noise, ban anyone that dares say otherwise and then if it ends up being fake, just lock the thread and move on? Holy shit, that's amazing, thank god that wasn't the gaming forum I found haha I would probably already be banned

 

[MayauMiao]

I legit hope none of these people breed.

They are incapable of understanding human behaviour so I doubt they will find anyone willing to accept their degenerate seed.

 

[Portugeezer]

Demanding the UTMOST tiny shred of common sense (aka being a functioning human being) is now called "victim blaming" and dog piled on. These people are garbage from the bottom of their hearts ...

Lmao, brings back old GAF memories. Reminds me of how glad I am they're gone

 

[LordKasual]

Those people over at Resetera love to dunk on people holy shit, I've never seen something like this.

Look at this, they don't give a fuck.

What that guy wrote on the bieber thread:

Holy shit. How are they so fast to deem someone a disgusting scumbag monster, this shit is honestly maddening. Dear lord.
They make a ton of noise, ban anyone that dares say otherwise and then if it ends up being fake, just lock the thread and move on? Holy shit, that's amazing, thank god that wasn't the gaming forum I found haha I would probably already be banned

Well i mean he's banned there, so....


And i read fucked up shit here pretty much daily. I can assure you they feel the same way about GAF as GAF feels about Era lol

 

[Imtjnotu]

Guilty until proven innocent.

 

[M1chl]

Wonder if those simp queens catch some heat, to feast on vulnerable men, which then go to do whatever queen pleases. But probably not.

 

[TheWisp]

Well i mean he's banned there, so....


And i read fucked up shit here pretty much daily. I can assure you they feel the same way about GAF as GAF feels about Era lol

He was banned for commenting on the anime avatar from that guy. It was a couple messages up.

 

[Gifmaker]

And i read fucked up shit here pretty much daily. I can assure you they feel the same way about GAF as GAF feels about Era lol

As someone who's registered in both communities, the most important difference is that at GAF, I am not "afraid" to voice my opinion if it's against the common consensus. I brace myself to get quoted and @'d a lot, maybe, but I don't worry about being warned or banned because I know that nothing I post warrants a ban.
With ResetERA, not so much. Not so much at all. You get banned over batshit insane trivial stuff.

 

[Portugeezer]

Agreed.

My quote, outside of its context now, was mostly to make a point that there is without a doubt a double standard of a man grabbing a woman's ass vs. a woman grabbing a man's ass.

Of course their is, but most men don't care. I could make a tweet about an old work colleague who would like to put herself between the doorway so that I would have to rub against her gigantic titties, and she would comment that I would smell nice, etc. Was I sexually harassed? I guess by todays standards, possibly, I have PTSD too from her predatory behaviour!! But no, I'm a man, I don't give a shit. I even flirted back despite not being interested. But if a guy tries similar to a woman it's not the same, and I accept that because I also accept that men and women are different (despite being mostly the same of course).

 

[OutRun88]

Imagine a chick you don't like, a chick you find annoying and generally a chick you wouldn't want to sleep with, not in a million years. Imagine letting her know this, albeit politely.

Now imagine turning your back to her, and she starts groping your ass. As if you're her plaything, as if you're fair game for her, despite letting her know you're not into her.

Sounds alright to you?

Imagine answering a question without setting up a strawman first.

Is the same standard applied to a man grabbing a woman's ass as a woman grabbing a man's ass?

I look forward to your answer to the actual question. Hopefully you come up with something more substantial than "yes".

 

[BlackBuzzard]

Those people over at Resetera love to dunk on people holy shit, I've never seen something like this.

Look at this, they don't give a fuck.

What that guy wrote on the bieber thread:

Holy shit. How are they so fast to deem someone a disgusting scumbag monster, this shit is honestly maddening. Dear lord.
They make a ton of noise, ban anyone that dares say otherwise and then if it ends up being fake, just lock the thread and move on? Holy shit, that's amazing, thank god that wasn't the gaming forum I found haha I would probably already be banned

2020 Resetera is literally what Gaf would have become if the inmates of the asylum still ran the show.

 

[NeoGiffer]

Demanding the UTMOST tiny shred of common sense (aka being a functioning human being) is now called "victim blaming" and dog piled on. These people are garbage from the bottom of their hearts ...

Wonder if those simp queens catch some heat, to feast on vulnerable men, which then go to do whatever queen pleases. But probably not.

 

[LordKasual]

As someone who's registered in both communities, the most important difference is that at GAF, I am not "afraid" to voice my opinion if it's against the common consensus. I brace myself to get quoted and @'d a lot, maybe, but I don't worry about being warned or banned because I know that nothing I post warrants a ban.
With ResetERA, not so much. Not so much at all. You get banned over batshit insane trivial stuff.

Funny story, I rarely ever resort to personal insults in arguments here, and i get into alot of them. I've been called all sorts of shit for the positions I take on conversations here.

The very first time I decided to stoop down to being a piece of shit like some of the other posters here and just start overtly calling people names, i immediately got warned for "spreading SJW nonsense" in "previous threads". So people are free to say whatever they want, as long as moderation agrees with them.

And this was during the PS5 games reveal, when the forum was basically flooded with threads of people angry that black people and women were being featured as protagonists in games. I'm sure you can imagine those comments.

I honestly feel like the only reason people dont get banned/warned here more often is specifically to not be accused of being like Era.


But banning/warning policy is mostly irrelevant -- this forum's community is essentially Anti-Era in everything but moderation practice. The kind of shit people say here wouldn't only get them banned on Era, but probably most official non-exclusive forum boards on the internet.

 

[Grinchy]

Doesn't there need to be a victim in order to blame a victim?

 

[frostyxc]

It does make you a douchebag and an asshole though.

Okay, hear me out on this one. What if one were to grab a woman's behinder-grinder, squeezing it like they're deflating an estrogen-filled pair of volleyballs, all the while letting out a simulated fart sound from their lips for an uncomfortably-long amount of time, showering the back of her neck in spittle? I'm going to say around 12 seconds, making it an even number as to not disturb any nearby and eavesdropping superstitious individuals. Is that allowed, or does that still label the bum bobbler a "douchebag and an asshole"? Whatever happened to just having some good ol' wholesome, caboose-crushing fun?

Sometimes, I ponder from my delightfully-sparse 6x9-foot cell if the world will ever laugh and have fun again. I ponder a lot of things after drinking pruno, though...

 

[OutrageousFacts]

As someone who's registered in both communities, the most important difference is that at GAF, I am not "afraid" to voice my opinion if it's against the common consensus. I brace myself to get quoted and @'d a lot, maybe, but I don't worry about being warned or banned because I know that nothing I post warrants a ban.
With ResetERA, not so much. Not so much at all. You get banned over batshit insane trivial stuff.

You could say: NeoGAF is a safe space for opinions.

 

[OutrageousFacts]

I just died from laughing. Sueing you for murder!

 

[OutRun88]

But banning/warning policy is mostly irrelevant -- this forum's community is essentially Anti-Era in everything but moderation practice. The kind of shit people say here wouldn't only get them banned on Era, but probably most official non-exclusive forum boards on the internet.

Argumentum ad populum

 

[Darth]

Those people over at Resetera love to dunk on people holy shit, I've never seen something like this.

Look at this, they don't give a fuck.




What that guy wrote on the bieber thread:



Holy shit. How are they so fast to deem someone a disgusting scumbag monster, this shit is honestly maddening. Dear lord.
They make a ton of noise, ban anyone that dares say otherwise and then if it ends up being fake, just lock the thread and move on? Holy shit, that's amazing, thank god that wasn't the gaming forum I found haha I would probably already be banned

You should of have read the Jussie Smolet thread. These types of threads happen a lot there.

 

[VN1X]

I love videogames so much.

 

[Darth]

Doesn't there need to be a victim in order to blame a victim?

I am still trying to figure out what she is the victim of, aside from her own stupidity.

 

[Nickolaidas]

Imagine answering a question without setting up a strawman first.

Is the same standard applied to a man grabbing a woman's ass as a woman grabbing a man's ass?

I look forward to your answer to the actual question. Hopefully you come up with something more substantial than "yes".

No, it doesn't. Just like it's not offensive for a man to be topless, but it is for a woman.

Men are physically more powerful than women, and we as men need to respect a woman's fragility by respecting her boundaries and personal space. So no, grabbing a woman's ass without her consent is not ok.

Unless it's a local custom thing though. I mean, in my country, we shake hands and say hello. If you rub each other's butt as a greeting, you're ok. As long as you stay there.

Are you trying to tell me that grabbing a woman's ass is a gentemanly thing to do? (note: we're not talking about strip clubs or when drinking ourselves stupid at a dance club)

 

[LordKasual]

Argumentum ad populum

Quicquid vos facit sentire magis

Imagine answering a question without setting up a strawman first.

Is the same standard applied to a man grabbing a woman's ass as a woman grabbing a man's ass?

I look forward to your answer to the actual question. Hopefully you come up with something more substantial than "yes".

most guys would actually love this

so no

it's sexual harassment either way if that's what you're asking


but by that same logic, is a random cute woman coming into the bathroom, reaching into your pants, and trying to give you a handjob the exact same as a handsome man coming into the woman's bathroom, stuffing his hand down her pants and attempting to finger bang her?

one sounds like a fantasy to pretty much everyone here. The other is clearly a rape case.

And if that's weird to you, then i assume you don't live in the real world.

 

[Fuz]

Which removed them all at least. I trust he has no more trouble, the whole thing was a disgraceful stitch up.

Feels like he lost a lot of money with the site value, though.

 

[Nickolaidas]

Okay, hear me out on this one. What if one were to grab a woman's behinder-grinder, squeezing it like they're deflating an estrogen-filled pair of volleyballs, all the while letting out a simulated fart sound from their lips for an uncomfortably-long amount of time, showering the back of her neck in spittle? I'm going to say around 12 seconds, making it an even number as to not disturb any nearby and eavesdropping superstitious individuals. Is that allowed, or does that still label the bum bobbler a "douchebag and an asshole"? Whatever happened to just having some good ol' wholesome, caboose-crushing fun?

Sometimes, I ponder from my delightfully-sparse 6x9-foot cell if the world will ever laugh and have fun again. I ponder a lot of things after drinking pruno, though...

So basically you're asking me if it's alright to be a clown? That's entirely up to you.

 

[OutRun88]

No, it doesn't. Just like it's not offensive for a man to be topless, but it is for a woman.

Men are physically more powerful than women, and we as men need to respect a woman's fragility by respecting her boundaries and personal space. So no, grabbing a woman's ass without her consent is not ok.

Unless it's a local custom thing though. I mean, in my country, we shake hands and say hello. If you rub each other's butt as a greeting, you're ok. As long as you stay there.

Are you trying to tell me that grabbing a woman's ass is a gentemanly thing to do? (note: we're not talking about strip clubs or when drinking ourselves stupid at a dance club)

Was "No, it doesn't" supposed to mean "no the same standard isn't applied"? I'm also not sure what toplessness has to do within our discussion of ass grabbing. Is it to defend the double standard? Couldn't one use that same logic to apply any form of double standard of sexism?

So, by the rules you have set here, woman don't have to respect men's boundaries or personal spaces because they are physically weaker?

Do you really believe this?

 

[Fuz]

This is amazing. I needed a laugh, thank you.

 

[Optimistic Gamer]

Guilty until proven innocent.

Hey you're not allowed to criticise this way of thinking. It got me banned.

I'm not sure what to say.

 

[Hudo]

Some dude on 4chan claimed that there are groups of women who have private chat/whatsapp/whatever groups, where they allegedly would talk about who to "attack" next. Those groups he called "whispernetworks". Dunno if any of this is true but I wouldn't be surprised tbh. Those allegations always seem to come up in packs.

 

[Nickolaidas]

Was "No, it doesn't" supposed to mean "no the same standard isn't applied"? I'm also not sure what toplessness has to do within our discussion of ass grabbing. Is it to defend the double standard? Couldn't one use that same logic to apply any form of double standard of sexism?

So, by the rules you have set here, woman don't have to respect men's boundaries or personal spaces because they are physically weaker?

Do you really believe this?

I'm saying that women can afford to be more aggressive, because they're weaker. They are incapable of forcing themselves on you, so their aggressiveness cannot be misinterpreted as intimidation, unlike many men who misused their power (physical, social, economical) since ancient times to intimidate women into having sex with them.

When you grab a woman's ass without her consent, she can view it as intimidation, you displaying your power as if you're telling her "I want to fuck you, whether you like it or not".

 

[saintjules]

I saw Bieber in some allegations as well. There's people using a way to identify if messages are authentic. Maybe that needs to be done too.

 

[Nickolaidas]

I saw Bieber in some allegations as well. There's people using a way to identify if messages are authentic. Maybe that needs to be done too.

I love the fact that a guy who's called "my dick hard" always believes the victim.

 

[angelic]

Feels like he lost a lot of money with the site value, though.

I'm no expert and certainly couldn't speak for the literal site owner, but i believe he turned down a large offer as it's not about the money. Also I can imagine it's a relief to not have hideous conspiring hypocritical mods plotting underneath you. I'm sure evilore is pleased to be exonerated, and free of their poison.

 

[OutRun88]

LordKasual Nickolaidas
I believe both of you are gravely mistaking what I asked from the get go.

Angry Joe accused of sexual harassment/predatory behaviour [Updates from both posted]

Please don't try to defend ProJared. Just because it's not illegal doesn't mean it's not fucked up.

www.resetera.com

Touching a girl's ass without consent does NOT make a guy a rapist nor any kinda of monster.

It does make you a douchebag and an asshole though.

To which I asked does the same standard apply to women? I.e., are women viewed in the same light by others when they grab a mans ass. Do we consider them douchebags and assholes?

 

[LordKasual]

LordKasual Nickolaidas
I believe both of you are gravely mistaking what I asked from the get go.


To which I asked does the same standard apply to women? I.e., are women viewed in the same light by others when they grab a mans ass. Do we consider them douchebags and assholes?

No, we don't, 90% of the time.

And you don't either.

Change the thread discussion and it's a bragging point to most guys.

they wouldn't be wrong for calling it harassment, but whether or not it's perceived as such is a different story entirely.

 

[OutRun88]

No, we don't, 90% of the time.

And you don't either.

Change the thread discussion and it's a bragging point to most guys.

they wouldn't be wrong for calling it harassment, but whether or not it's perceived as such is a different story entirely.

Could claiming what I think or feel be any more disingenuous? Whether you are right or wrong, it's hard to take ones words with any ounce of reasonableness with statements like that.

Women who do this are often viewed as aggressive and forthright. Neither of them inherently negative terms like douchebag or asshole. It's not uncommon to hear others speak of women like this as "she knows what she wants" in a very positive manner.

By most states definitions, the act of grabbing someone's ass would fall under sexual harassment. The action itself is innocent enough in my opinion, but if a sexual harassment claim has legality, I respect it. The thing that truly bothers me is when women feel they can do this without repercussions because of a socially applied double standard but file a sexual harassment claim against a man who does it in similar context.

 

[ShadowNate]

Change the thread discussion and it's a bragging point to most guys.

they wouldn't be wrong for calling it harassment, but whether or not it's perceived as such is a different story entirely.

Not true. You may have a specific woman type in mind. But, try the same example with say an ugly person who has clearly let go of herself, thinks that everyone is attracted to them for some reason, and is generally a whole pack of crazy.

 

[OutrageousFacts]

for anyone who keeps saying that women unfairly "cancel" men without evidence, go see the comments in the video. and that sort of talk is everywhere. on reddit, on 4chan, on fb and in real life. Women have so very little to gain in these circumstances, yet they are constantly being written off as money grabbers, fakes and whores.

Angry Joe accused of sexual harassment/predatory behaviour [Updates from both posted]

for anyone who keeps saying that women unfairly "cancel" men without evidence, go see the comments in the video. and that sort of talk is everywhere. on reddit, on 4chan, on fb and in real life. Women have so very little to gain in these circumstances, yet they are constantly being written off...

www.resetera.com

I WONDER WHY THESE WOMEN ARE CALLED NAMES!!!? IT'S A MYSTERY!

No, we don't, 90% of the time.

And you don't either.

Change the thread discussion and it's a bragging point to most guys.

they wouldn't be wrong for calling it harassment, but whether or not it's perceived as such is a different story entirely.

This is a topic I not to long ago mentioned somewhere, don't remember where. Basically: We live in a society where all typical MALE is branded as toxic/negative/harassment whereas what women enjoy is correct/good/progressive.

Take the ass grab example. Your typical purple hair-woman will cry for crime, sic a harassment mob online, cause an outrage. In the same situation most men would react in the range from "wut" to "nice, I'm hot" and brag to his friends. => WHY is the female perspective here the preferable one? Because an ass grab make a woman uncomfortable? You know what makes men uncomfortable? All those stares from women in everyday life that silently say "lol don't even try". WHY, instead of punishing men for male behavior, don't we teach women to learn the male perspective that is INFINITELY more chilled and peaceful? Someone grabs your ass? Grab his ass! Don't like it? Slap him, that's fair. But trying to ruin someone's life over something inoccuous? That's just wrong.

And that's just one example, it doesn't need to be an ass grab. For example, publically talking about sex. I've seen it so many times on Twitter how women react outraged when you talk about "fucking". Instead of reacting outraged, why not join the talk?

And so on.

Resetera and the likes don't realize how from the very beginning they put women in a position of victimhood, of passiveness. Because women are so powerless, men must be punished. That is their train of thought. It reminds of how girls judged me as a creepy nerd when I played video games during school days. Nowadays they want to be acknowledged as gamers. How about we fast-trails that embarrassing, dishonest attitude and women RIGHT NOW join men in their fun behavior? Grab our asses, talk about your sexual desires, rate our hotness from 1-10, and so on. Masculinity isn't toxic - it's one of two perspectives, and neither ought to be condemned as "wrong".

 

[#Phonepunk#]

The more i read about this the more she sounds like a dumb broad. Multiple warning signs that he was into her and she just kept hanging along. She has a boyfriend and decides to go to this guy's hotel with him alone. Give me a fucking break.

It's like the Louis CK Chappelle joke where someone is being scandalized on the other end when he's jacking off. HANG UP THE PHONE MORON

 

[Nickolaidas]

LordKasual Nickolaidas
I believe both of you are gravely mistaking what I asked from the get go.


To which I asked does the same standard apply to women? I.e., are women viewed in the same light by others when they grab a mans ass. Do we consider them douchebags and assholes?

First of all, the words douchebag and asshole are not used on women, so it's difficult to consider them something they're never named after.

Second, I explained to you about female aggression being less open to misinterpretation than male aggression in my previous post. No, I don't think it's the same. But that doesn't mean that it's ok to grope women's asses.

What is your point? What are you trying to say or prove? That women get a pass and men don't? Yes, they do. That doesn't change the fact that men who grope women's asses without their consent or encouragement are considered assholes and douchebags.

You think it's unfair? Cry me a river, but that's the way things work. Just like it's 99.99% for the man to propose, for the man to pay the restaurant bill, for the man to open the door of the car for the woman to come out, for the man to not be sexually aggressive without first receiving her body signals that it's ok to do so, for the man to ask her out, etc. etc. etc.

 

[BlackBuzzard]

2 years ago they tried to cancel a female cosplayer who was very handsy like actual sexual abuse and groping people at cons, it went nowhere.

 

[ShadowNate]

Maybe all of this would have been prevented if he had chosen to call himself "UglyJoe" instead. Or SloppyJoe.

I'll show myself out.

 

[iHaunter]

This woman is a total fraud.

Spent entire day leading someone on, not saying she had a boyfriend - why? She wanted to use Joe to increase your viewership status, based on her own writing.

 

[teezzy]

I miss the days when I didnt have to hear about a YouTuber's sex life

 

[Teslerum]

I miss the days when I didnt have to hear about a YouTuber's sex life

This is about a YouTuber's sex life?

Could have fooled me. I thought sex has to happen for that?

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

I miss the days when I didnt have to hear about a YouTuber's sex life

Hear hear.

But cancel culture has become a great way to grab likes and follows on social media so the outrage machine is here to stay.

 

[Airbus Jr]

Does Joe related to Colin Farrell

they look similar at a glance

 

[Piku_Ringo]

 

[INC]

Does Joe related to Colin Farrell they look similar at a glance No, he has ears, they're clearly not related

 

[Airbus Jr]

No, he has ears, they're clearly not related