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Yeah Microsoft's games weren't diverse at all...
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Vroadstar
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The showcase just ruined this poster's reputation........ infinitely
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Xbox Series X
Salmon Snake
Member
Are we getting something from Sony this friday?
I have to say that the Xbox event was so uninteresting for me that after a while I just stopped watching.
The next gen is all about Playstation (again) for me. Unless something universe shattering happens.
I have to say that the Xbox event was so uninteresting for me that after a while I just stopped watching.
The next gen is all about Playstation (again) for me. Unless something universe shattering happens.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
I don't know how the Fable world is interesting enough to be an MMO. I mean look at the fantasy IPs it'll be competing with.. that world is boring as fuck in comparison.
Dibils2k
Member
i thought this was just a sign that those games wont come out for atleast 2 years.../cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/20108703/Screen_Shot_2020_07_23_at_12.17.05_PM.png)
It looks like Microsoft is already breaking a big promise with Xbox Series X
Your existing Xbox won’t play the new Forza or Fablewww.theverge.com
i mean the fact they didnt have gameplay for Forza tells me its far away. they dont even have a single track and car race-able yet?
Exactly, Jeff Grubb even said Sony wanted to show as most games as they could actually running on the PS5
So yeah, even if we got some cinematic looking trailers like Horizon, Demon's Souls, Pragmata etc., it seems they were capture in real time. And a lot of them had snippets of gameplay (Spiderman MM, Returnal, Kena, etc.) or were full on gameplay trailers (like Deathloop and Ghostwire)
sircaw
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azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Heyyy there you are, we missed you Bo.Oops.
I imagine that your stomach hurts, I know it can hurts the abs when laughing too much.
Just to clarify, the TES6 teaser a few years back didn't really excite me
either. A lot of the trailers were comparable to that..
sircaw
Banned
Just finished everything in GOT, every collectible, every color and armor etc (prior to finishing the main last mission at least). I feel so empty now, but got to watch what MS did yesterday and I might have fun by doing so, heard lots of praise for Halo.
For people asking where I've been.
EDIT: I'm in page 2467
Welcome back Desert boy, you have been missed.
Not by me.
Lunatic_Gamer
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Wait so "weird interactive Tell Me Why game" is ok but people criticising games like Heavy Rain is fine?
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Glad I had my breakfast after seeing the event or I might ruin my keyboard and mouse.
I've had some quality days with Ghost of Tsushima, one of my best games of all time. I really expected a mediocre show, but this isn't good enough to be mediocre.
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VanSiriusGabriel
Member
Exactly.
Killzone 2 is a 2009 game and it aged far better than what this Halo will do.
You could find very blurry textures, you could say it was all grey, but it was a calculated use of grey and dark. Killzone 1 is also grey and artistically has just nothing to do with 2, the CGI trailer was more similar to 1 artstyle and you can already see how plastic it looks now despite having far better tech on most aspects.
Videogames are illusions, and the consoles is just the stage. Right know it seems MS lacks the illusionist.
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azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Yeah I can understand that I was hoping at least 3 or 4 things to be good and .... besides Avowed which barely showed anything it was such a let down.Glad I had my breakfast after seeing the event or I might ruin my keyboard and mouse.
user1337
Member
No, RDNA 3 will have some PS5 sprinkled in itPS5 to have some RDNA 3 sprinkled in there?
megreotsugua
Banned
Aaron Greenberg and Phil Spencer should just release gamepass on PS5 to make a profit.
zubairali2
Member
im confused with "console launch exclusive"?? doesnt that also mean timed exclsuive? a great ad for game pass...
Setsuna Mudou
Member
You know you can just write "gt 7 gameplay" as a search term on yt right?
video
next time just do a little google fu. gameplay around the 2min mark. menus navigation even before
ToadMan
Member
I really feel the “gamer community” could do with something to cleanse the stench of failure hanging around.
Sony could really pep everyone up with some new news even if they don’t need to. It’d be a charitable gesture to get us out of this pit we’re now in.
Come on Sony, throw us a little lifeline!
But the other games you mentioned?
ToadMan
Member
I think that’s a new term MS have invented to say it’s coming to their “console” before any other console.
But specifically saying launch exclusive rather than exclusive, to me implies it’s a short term exclusivity deal. 3 months, 6 months. Something like that.
I think if it was getting on to a year of exclusivity they’d have just said it’s exclusive to Xbox at this stage, and let the news out it’s timed exclusive a bit further down the line.
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Yep it's almost always just a timed exclusive.
B_Boss
Member
He also said, essentially that, because of relying on a terrible metric (Teraflops), that Sony would be in a “shit position this gen” whilst trying to play catch up to a 12TF box, Nevermind the immense talent Sony has groomed and cultivated over the decades. I’ve absolutely nothing against him so I prefer to go after his thinking/arguments but his comments or rationale have aged so badly. I think It began with the UE5 demo. Where is
SonGoku
?I mean it’s no biggie but it’s intellectually stimulating to think about how so many seemed to have called it a “loss” due to 10.28 vs 12. Just unfortunate as hell.
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kareemna
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Oops.
Welcome back!
ToadMan
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That is coming. The economics of it make sense for MS.
If Xsex bombs - which from the perspective of 24 July 2020 seems entirely possible - MS will ditch the hardware and just make gamepass a service to try and sell on PlayStation.
I think the problem they’ll have is convincing Sony to take it at this stage. After all Sony will be concerned it will cannibalise sales of their first party stuff and draw them into offering a similar “race to the bottom” service.
But ultimately, if MS basically become a 3rd party game producer then those games will find their way onto PlayStation eventually.
There’s no point MS locking themselves out of 100m + potential subscribers if their own hardware isn’t shifting units for them.
HAL-01
Member
These Xbox promises keep getting more disingenuous by the minute. Apparently now wether first parties support Xbox one or not is up to the developers. Which is the way they should’ve gone from the get go, but completely against what theyve been saying as recently as last week. what a way to build consumer trust
Extremely similar to the 60fps “standard” promise over which they immediately backpedaled
Extremely similar to the 60fps “standard” promise over which they immediately backpedaled
zubairali2
Member
there were quite a lot of them, the lineup microsoft have at the moment really doesnt make me want to buy a series x.
ToadMan
Member
Glad I had my breakfast after seeing the event or I might ruin my keyboard and mouse.
Yeha me too. Really loving GoT. Working on the plat now.
Watching that MS stuff with GoT running was really weird. I did feel a little bit “unsettled” watching the next Halo, then looking back to Tsushima. Seemed like I was watching an MS presentation rerun from 15 years ago!
sircaw
Banned
Right, after a very good night of sleep, i think it was the meme's, its time for me to reflect abit.
Just some personal thoughts here.
I think Microsoft have some serious issues, the quality of that demo from Halo, all that pop in, the meme's that have come out. Everywhere i turn now i see that fucking Green Monkey thing, its really funny but it is really sad too.
for Microsoft to release their flagship game in that state, i am sorry someone needs to Go. It is just unacceptable.
Besides extremists, who wants to buy an xbox based on that show last night.
Microsoft needs to replace that studio.
After such hype + pr + fanboy bullshit that show was an utter trainwreck. I am sorry they have blown it.
Microsoft need to come in now with a price much lower than ps5, they need to undercut Ps5 by 50 bucks. Why would anyone who likes fantastic games want to choose Ms over Sony.
The dealer pod cast last night was giving it eights and nines, but you would not of know it from there voices, sounded more like a funeral than anything else.
I don't think sony Execs could of believed what they saw last night, honestly, that board room of theirs must have been out of control with laughter.
Microsoft are all noise, pr + bullshit.
And i am afraid this is only going to get worse.
Where is the new god of war, uncharted, new spiderman, i am going to stop here. Its already a fucking slaughter.
Shame on you Microsoft for doing this to your fans.
fucking shameful.
all the fucking spin, what a load of bullshit.
Just some personal thoughts here.
I think Microsoft have some serious issues, the quality of that demo from Halo, all that pop in, the meme's that have come out. Everywhere i turn now i see that fucking Green Monkey thing, its really funny but it is really sad too.
for Microsoft to release their flagship game in that state, i am sorry someone needs to Go. It is just unacceptable.
Besides extremists, who wants to buy an xbox based on that show last night.
Microsoft needs to replace that studio.
After such hype + pr + fanboy bullshit that show was an utter trainwreck. I am sorry they have blown it.
Microsoft need to come in now with a price much lower than ps5, they need to undercut Ps5 by 50 bucks. Why would anyone who likes fantastic games want to choose Ms over Sony.
The dealer pod cast last night was giving it eights and nines, but you would not of know it from there voices, sounded more like a funeral than anything else.
I don't think sony Execs could of believed what they saw last night, honestly, that board room of theirs must have been out of control with laughter.
Microsoft are all noise, pr + bullshit.
And i am afraid this is only going to get worse.
Where is the new god of war, uncharted, new spiderman, i am going to stop here. Its already a fucking slaughter.
Shame on you Microsoft for doing this to your fans.
fucking shameful.
all the fucking spin, what a load of bullshit.
ToadMan
Member
There was one more thing posted here although I haven’t found the text myself yet.
Crossfire X had small print - the single player would not be on gamepass and the multiplayer is free to play but will need a gold live for online.
Sooo I’m wondering how many of those 3rd party exclusives won’t actually be gamepass or will be compromised to encourage purchase of the full game.
MS didn’t give much “small print” detail in this.
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HAL-01
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Watching the alanah video she confirmed halo infinite has 4 way local split screen.
So, not only is this a 4K 60fps open world cross gen game that has to be optimized for 4 different platforms, but it also needs to be able to run 4 separate instances of the same world, on every level. The game sounds like absolute hell to develop for, we’re lucky it looks as good as it does
So, not only is this a 4K 60fps open world cross gen game that has to be optimized for 4 different platforms, but it also needs to be able to run 4 separate instances of the same world, on every level. The game sounds like absolute hell to develop for, we’re lucky it looks as good as it does
pasterpl
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if someone is not planning to buy xbsex and never consider buying into ms ecosystem, then I can see how none of these games would interest someone, same situation for Xbox users that don’t plan to buy into Sony ecosystem, for these users none of the Sony exclusives will be interesting.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Halo Infinite is an insult to next gen gaming, and exposes the lies that it had a $500 million budget!
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Yep building hype may pay off if your game is up to the bar ....But they've only been talking about power and mic drops after mic drops...
It felt more like ball dropped after ball dropped.
They need to manage their studio sometimes let them loose and sometimes try to push them to do better. With 343 they seriously need to intervene.
And I would like to understand one thing they barely released anything in the last 2 years, bought studios, create a new studio and all that just for that ?Beside Obsidian that has been working hard what are they doing?
#Xgondisapointya.
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zubairali2
Member
its almost like game pass is xbox's life support to keep the flow going until they can make a comeback. i still believe they can but holy shit its gonna be a painful dick twisting comeback.
i find it hard to understand the time i bought my xbox 360 elite with halo 3 and modern warfare 2 were the best moments i ever had. the games are no longer there anymore, or more like the "charm" and talent from the developers is gone.
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Shmunter
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What? No. That would be beyond insane.
user1337
Member
There are still some people saying that older hardware will not 'hold back' the XSX, and that the games will all be "Scalable" for XSX. I hate that word in this context. SCALABLE.
They are missing the freaking point!
By held back, we mean games will be designed around the restrictions of the old hardware.
Sure, on XSX you will get better lighting, better resolution, better textures; BUT the game won't suddenly change its core. Games will still need to be designed with slow loading in mind. They will still be limited in scope in how big they can get. If you can only see 1 mile in XBO, then the XSX won't suddenly allow you to see 10 miles ahead even if it could.
What is the point of being able to have 10times the per pixel fidelity (as per 343s claims), when you can't even use it because it would cause older systems to run like a pile a shite and you have no choice but to support it.
Sony's mentality of "New gen means new gen" is exactly the right mentality to have. Give your developers the tools and let them run wild instead of giving them the tools and then adding a pile of dung and saying they need to use that as well.
They are missing the freaking point!
By held back, we mean games will be designed around the restrictions of the old hardware.
Sure, on XSX you will get better lighting, better resolution, better textures; BUT the game won't suddenly change its core. Games will still need to be designed with slow loading in mind. They will still be limited in scope in how big they can get. If you can only see 1 mile in XBO, then the XSX won't suddenly allow you to see 10 miles ahead even if it could.
What is the point of being able to have 10times the per pixel fidelity (as per 343s claims), when you can't even use it because it would cause older systems to run like a pile a shite and you have no choice but to support it.
Sony's mentality of "New gen means new gen" is exactly the right mentality to have. Give your developers the tools and let them run wild instead of giving them the tools and then adding a pile of dung and saying they need to use that as well.
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zubairali2
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FunkMiller
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So, have digested yesterday’s ’showcase’ properly now, and it’s clear to me that Microsoft have had to push their GamePass so much because they simply don’t have the games to sell at the moment. Everything is years away.
Shmunter
Member
Jesus Wept.
How much convoluted mis-messaging and confusion can a single company produce??
kareemna
Member
Yesterday's event was as expected.
MS prefers the ecosystem be Xbox + Windows 10 and thus Game Pass is a good incentive to get into both easily. Their complete lack of console sales for Xbox One led to discontinuing the console and this will lead to decreasing costs, it is mostly likely that the sales aren't breaking even for them enough to keep manufacturing the console. So focusing on XSX + Windows 10 was the smart decision (whether fanboys liked it or not).
In fact early on when they were planning the original Xbox, MS wanted to penetrate the living room market as back then Sony was taking over with its consumer electronics.
MS prefers the ecosystem be Xbox + Windows 10 and thus Game Pass is a good incentive to get into both easily. Their complete lack of console sales for Xbox One led to discontinuing the console and this will lead to decreasing costs, it is mostly likely that the sales aren't breaking even for them enough to keep manufacturing the console. So focusing on XSX + Windows 10 was the smart decision (whether fanboys liked it or not).
In fact early on when they were planning the original Xbox, MS wanted to penetrate the living room market as back then Sony was taking over with its consumer electronics.
Dodkrake
Banned
Not fake. It was running in-engine* in real time at 24fps.
* undisclosed platform. They would be bragging if that was the Xbox Series X, so it was likely running on a high end PC.
What did sony show then? What game that they will release this year looks like true nextgen? What gameplay did they show?
There wasn't anything from first party that proved your point.
B_Boss
Member
Good grief that is just sad Toad, that sounds absolutely terrible and I even pray it never happens....for Xbox as a brand, as a console division, to die. Very rational analysis though....I just hope that never happens. That would some terribly sad shit as I want Sony to have serious competition or at least the potential to have competition.
Anyone here (as a speculative exercise) believe that either MS needs to reshuffle the deck of personnel or that perhaps Spence just needs to change up the strategy, etc?
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azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Maybe to your tastes but spiderman looks great as well as Ratchet and Horizon.
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