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chilichote
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Just in case you're wondering if you can get a Series S... 
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VargasPaPuM
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perfect
VargasPaPuM
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He actually says that its hard to do pixel counting with it because of the high quality of their AA solution and the motion blur. But he says there's evidence visible across the video that it is running at 1440p.
I fail to see what's wrong with that as a technical analysis. I think the truth is that you're just upset that the game may not run at 4k/60 and you're lashing out in a childish, embarrassing way.
If the game is confirmed at release to be running at 1440P are you going to cry about it? Will you come on here and have a meltdown?
R3claimer117
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This is a parody right?
Bo_Hazem
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You can't take the grass and call it a day. If that was the case, then Halo Infinite should be 240p or 480p according to their trees.
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amstradcpc
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show us the games.
amstradcpc
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But they are ray traced...You can't take the grass and call it a day. If that's was the case, then Halo Infinite should be 240p or 480p according to their trees.
Dibils2k
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he says its hard to do pixel count because of motion blur and per object motion blur... not that he cant
you just hear what you wanna hear
you watch their content trying to find things to twist, its beyond sad
chilichote
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Vae_Victis
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* Will be at launch.
Bo_Hazem
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Not even raytraced.
he says its hard to do pixel count because of motion blur and per object motion blur... not that he cant
you just hear what you wanna hear
It's 1440p output from his ass, didn't show what solidifies his claims.
amstradcpc
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well, they cant assure the resolution, they cant assure if there is ray tracing... They just had a shortcircuit with its mantra: but 4K, but DLSS, but RT!.he says its hard to do pixel count because of motion blur and per object motion blur... not that he cant
you just hear what you wanna hear
If it looks as good that you cant even say how is done then its how it should be done.
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oldergamer
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WTF are you talking about? MS has made all these moves in the last 2 years. How can you say where are the games, while not saying the same of Sony for this console launch? The hype didn't start 5 years ago. It started 2 years back.
chilichote
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You can't take the grass and call it a day. If that's was the case, then Halo Infinite should be 240p or 480p according to their trees.
For Christmas, that's soon, will you put a few Christmas balls on it?^^
amstradcpc
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yes, along with ES6 and PS6 in the market.
oldergamer
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Now you are just saying stupid stuff. I think its closer to being the other way around.
You can't take the grass and call it a day. If that's was the case, then Halo Infinite should be 240p or 480p according to their trees.
You have no idea what their analysis technique was that lead them to conclude it was 1440P.
Also, the video is clearly an initial analysis of what's available. These aren't final conclusions and you couldn't make them anyway because no-one has the finished game available to analyse.
He says performance mode looks like 1440P and visual mode is logically probably 4K given other 4K media released. It's obviously a provisional analysis, not a statement of fact on the performance of the final game.
You're just getting upset at the idea of it being it possibly being 1440P and you're throwing your toys out of the pram. There is not a shred of evidence on display here of any negatively biased behaviour towards Sony. He praises multiple aspects of the games presentation and performance!
Grow up.
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Bo_Hazem
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splattered
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How the fuck did they come up with 1440p? And they can't see RT now? Well, explain this:
And it's compressed to hell, this is the direct feed from PlayStation.Blog flickr account:
Yes, the dirty money of FUD is doing its magic.
If this is what 1440p looks like next gen, maybe the Series S isn't such a bad bet after all
MasterCornholio
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I thought ray tracing was coming in a patch? Well that's until they delayed the game that is.
MasterCornholio
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If this is what 1440p looks like next gen, maybe the Series S isn't such a bad bet after all
That's a PS5 running the game at 1440P 60FPs. The Series S won't look like that due to the much weaker hardware.
Not to mention the reduced ram and slower I/O. The textures would definitely take a hit on the Series S. Not to mention Ray tracing among other graphical features.
True but that's going to be fixed really soon.
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T-Cake
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If this is what 1440p looks like next gen, maybe the Series S isn't such a bad bet after all
Excellent point. It's really all about the clarity of the textures. BUT we know that the Series S probably isn't going to get 4K textures so it may not be as simple as that after all.
amstradcpc
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There are 4 or 5 Sony first/second parties at launch for Sony. For MS there is not even a real time demo of a game running on a XSX.
Well, any member of this forum could have done that analysis. He says nothing, except for the bit about the high quality per obejct motion blur, that curiously Cherno said in its analysis...
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I've watched the video, he definitely says a lot more than 'nothing', actually.
Bo_Hazem
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Why "assume" a downgrade when you don't have the evidence and claim after that that's actually 1440p? Ok where is your 800% magnifier? And where was the magnifier with Halo Infinite? That's called FUD. You paint it in "nice" wording to make it sound "believable", that's how FUD is done, when you claim something you can't prove just to downplay one company that didn't give you "free" tickets and consoles to play around with. It's already a known tactic from Microsoft, many MS officials have been spreading shit here and banned and exposed by NeoGAF staff back in 2013.
The guy is fucking making shit up, so he should STFU or provide evidence of it being 1440p. There is no amount of AA that can hide 1440p. Only thing possible to do so is advanced image reconstruction, and if you can't prove or no officials spoke about it you analyze and speak about solid facts, not tales from your ass.
Funny, lighting, now AA. DF can't run out of BS.
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Strange and embarrassing behaviour.
ethomaz
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I call reality.
ethomaz
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If the clocks are true then it is what I said because the only way to MS use these extreme conservative clocks are due the GPU core being RDNA 1.0.
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Garani
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No they can't. Smartshift is something at the silicon level, and as far as we are aware PS5 is using it while XSX/XSS are not. If smartshift helps or not, I can't say, but listening to Cerny, Sony decided to go a different way in terms of thermals and power.
Buyer won't honor the bid. It would then go to the second best offer, but if it's another bot, basically it should go unsold.
No, please, not this argument. AMD has publicly stated that they are both based on RDNA2. Let's leave it at that.
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Bo_Hazem
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If this is what 1440p looks like next gen, maybe the Series S isn't such a bad bet after all
That's PS5. This is Xbox Series S: (downloaded the 1440p@60fps video from youtube)
Maybe you got confused.
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Ptarmiganx2
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They don't believe in generations...they have no plans to maximize 12TF, why would 30 make a difference?
MasterCornholio
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The CUs? Didn't Digital Foundry say that the CUs looked like RDNA2 ones or did I misheard them?
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ethomaz
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So only one side can speculate that? Never changes Xbox GAF but it fun the see the reaction when the speculation is from the other side.
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ethomaz
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I'm 100% sure DF has no ideia how a RDNA 2.0 CU looks... so if they made that claim is another lie they created to make news.
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Lunatic_Gamer
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Final Fantasy XVI Graphics Are Still Being Worked On, Teaser Site Will Open In October
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Final Fantasy XVI Graphics Are Still Being Worked On, Teaser Site Will Open In October
Final Fantasy XVI producer Naoki Yoshida has shared an update on the reveal trailer for the game. He has talked about opening a teaser site in October.
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MasterCornholio
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I know both Microsoft and Sony said that they are using custom RDNA2 in both. And I do remember Cerny saying that the CUs were RDNA2 ones. And I'm also sure that was revealed for Microsoft during their hot chips event.
It really seems like Microsoft is going with a lower clock speed because they wanted more CUs. Also it produces less heat so it makes the system easier to cool and run silently.
I remember they made a comment after the hot chips event. I don't remember exactly what it was but it was something about it looking like an RDNA2 GPU.
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Will look the same on PS5 .......
That's PS5. This is Xbox Series S: (downloaded the 1440p@60fps video from youtube)
Maybe you got confused.
Bo_Hazem
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ethomaz
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If the clocks are true for RDNA 2.0 the. 1.8Ghz with 52CUs already tells you the issue was not due more CUs because 80CUs can reach over 2Ghz.
duhmetree
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From what I've gathered... Higher clocks is substantial for Ray Tracing.
onesvenus
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I meant before RDNA2 GPUs. And even focusing on that arch, both Intel and NVIDIA doesn't seem to follow that path so it doesn't seem to be so clear cut as what some fans are implying
That's false in very parallelizable tasks. Just look at video and CG rendering for example, many slower cores are better than few faster ones.
Rendering is an inherently parallel task because vertices are independently processed and pixels are independently shaded.
MasterCornholio
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Xbox Series X silicon: the Hot Chips 2020 breakdown
Earlier this week, Microsoft took part in the Hot Chips 2020 symposium to deliver its now traditional console silicon b…
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Found it they do mention several times it's RDNA2 in it.
Garani
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It's not that, it is just that it is an argument that takes you down a paranoid path where you believe that multi-billion dollar corporations, that are governed by a massive number of international laws, are lying about what is in the boxes.
If I am a company and I press release that console Y does use a certain tecnology, and it comes to light that that specific technology isn't there, I would be liable to a number of lawsuits. If AMD delcares that XSX and PS5 are based on the RDNA2 architecture, it is true.
MasterCornholio
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Like Polaris and GCN? I don't see why that has anything to do with RDNA2 which is a different architecture. It looks like AMD are doing things differently with it than their previous ones. Seems like high clocks and pretty good power consumption seen to be a focus with it. With that said I don't see why having a fast and narrow system is a bad thing especially given what Sony wanted to do with the system.
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