The Witcher 3 vs. Bloodborne

Vote for your Game Of The Generation!

  • The Witcher 3

    Votes: 458 51.1%

  • Bloodborne

    Votes: 438 48.9%
  • Total voters
    896
  • Poll closed .
DanEON said:
In TW3, you have Witcher Gear (green) and Relic weapons (golden), and they all need to be chosen wisely based on your skills and playstyle.
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What do you mean choose wisely? Witcher 3 dificulty is a joke even on death march, which means none of those choices matter because the game is too easy for it to matter.
 
Some Bloodborne fans are harming their chances by shaming users who are voting for Witcher 3 over it, when they say its trash or say people who dont vote BB have bad taste. I mean with that attitude you sure as hell will make a neutral user vote for the opposite side you are cheering for, not only it makes them more salty but its also a good act of revenge on the bully.
I advice you to be more welcoming and respectful towards the other opinion.

Competitive talk is alright but name calling is desperate.

Anyways Im surprised with the results, i thought there is no way Witcher 3 can even reach 40% here, I guess the vocal haters for the game are minority after all, because in pretty much every Witcher thread i will read the same "combat is garbage" "game is boring" "geralt is clunky tank" lazy complaints.

I think both games are excellent at what they are trying to do, can we advance both games? :pie_thinking:
 
Mozzarella said:
Some Bloodborne fans are harming their chances by shaming users who are voting for Witcher 3 over it, when they say its trash or say people who dont vote BB have bad taste. I mean with that attitude you sure as hell will make a neutral user vote for the opposite side you are cheering for, not only it makes them more salty but its also a good act of revenge on the bully.
I advice you to be more welcoming and respectful towards the other opinion.

Competitive talk is alright but name calling is desperate.

Anyways Im surprised with the results, i thought there is no way Witcher 3 can even reach 40% here, I guess the vocal haters for the game are minority after all, because in pretty much every Witcher thread i will read the same "combat is garbage" "game is boring" "geralt is clunky tank" lazy complaints.

I think both games are excellent at what they are trying to do, can we advance both games? :pie_thinking:
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I also don't understand why this has to be so toxic. I mean, as if it insulted someone that W3 is doing so well?

I loved both, and I am happy we had the pleasure to play both titles this gen. This semi-final can be treated as a true ending (to this tournament), by the way.
 
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MadYarpen said:
I also don't understand why this has to be so toxic. I mean, as if it insulted someone that W3 is doing so well?

I loved both, and I am happy we had the pleasure to play both titles this gen. This semi-final can be treated as a true ending (to this tournament), by the way.
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Well, im not really sure, Zelda BotW is the game that currently holds the most titles for Game of the Decade, at least in journalist websites, in forums it won in the finals against Witcher 3 in GameFaqs by small margin.

On ResetEra, its expected that either Bloodborne or Zelda may win.

Lets not write Zelda off, that game has a lot of fans and its winning a lot, although i got tired of watching Zelda take those contest, imo its not GOTD material but i understand the love it gets.
Usually it comes to the point of Witcher 3 vs Zelda on popular websites, on niche forums Bloodborne does well and joins them.

I gotta say though, I dont buy into the idea that there is a "Game" of the "Decade" or "Game" of the "Generation"
To me this is very arbitary, there are more than 1 type of games, and to limit such title to one game only is unfair, If it was my choice I would go for "Top Games" of the decade/generation, and it will be a list of the ESSENTIAL games to experience as gamer in this decade/generation, without limiting it to one number, maybe Top 10 with no order. I guess thats more fair.
 
Mhmmm 2077 said:
You sure you know what game are you talking about here?
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Fallout 4 is a PS3 game. That game sucks. Bugs, combat sucks, LOD is a piece of..., data streaming is a piece of... loading is a piece of... too. Graphics vanilla or without mods? Looks like a PS3 game. Using the same old engine for the past 15-20 years? Come on. I played it in the quarantine. Brought it for $20 with all the DLC and i don't know how people paid 30 or more for that game when it came out.
 
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I thought it would be a complete blowout in favor of Bloodborne. I honestly hated The Witcher. Cumbersome to do anything in that game, whether it's move your character, slide down 2 ft. hills without dying, using the equipment menu, making money, leveling up, combat, it pretty much all sucked.

I'm giving Cyberpunk a shot on day one, but so far I'm not a fan.
 
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scydrex said:
Fallout 4 is a PS3 game. That game sucks. Bugs, combat sucks, LOD is a piece of..., data streaming is a piece of... loading is a piece of... too. Graphics vanilla or without mods? Looks like a PS3 game. Using the same old engine for the past 15-20 years? Come on. I played it in the quarantine. Brought it for $20 with all the DLC and i don't know how people paid 30 or more for that game when it came out.
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That game needed mods to even make it tolerable.

Huge step down from 3 and NV in all the ways that are important.
 
D'Ghost said:
A walkover. It'll be over in the first hour of voting from whichever wins this poll. As for salt... I make others distill salt - and usually en-masse. It's not the other way around. Advice has been given. Up to folks to heed to wisdom.
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I think it's going to be the other way around. The game that wins this round doesn't stand a chance against BOTW, simply because there's a lot of people here that treat these games in a "my team your team" kind of way and will vote AGAINST the game that beat their favourite one. The winner will come out injured to the finals, so to say. We'll see.
 
Fallout 4 had a lot of hype before release and after it got released a lot of websites gave it good scores and gamers generally liked it, it was until 1 or 2 years later that people started to realize that its not as good as its predecessor e.g New Vegas or 3.
RPG fans started to criticize it and the direction it took, and also Bethesda as a developer company started going downhill as well which made more people dislike Fallout 4.

At the TGA ceremony, before Geoff announced the winner some people were saying "dont say Fallout" because that game had momentum of being recently released and few people hated on it, it got generally positive acclaim at first.
So if not Witcher 3 won at that time it would be either Fallout 4 or MGS 5, considering they won minor awards like Sounds, Action game etc...
There are other bigger outlets that also awarded it the GOTY, which further proves my point that the game was liked at release timeline, nowadays those outlets are making top 10 games and you will not see Fallout 4 anywhere near them, the game reception changed over the 2 years, because better games got released, people played more 2015 games, and previous Fallout games received the attention they needed.

The Awards picture that got posted in this thread makes sense when you look at it from this perspective.
I wouldnt say Fallout 4 is a bad game, its decent enough, like 6/10. I loved older Fallout games so i really dont like Fallout 4, but im trying to cancel out my bias, when i do that..its a decent game, really. Ofcoruse its not GOTY material. Mistakes happen.
 
RedVIper said:
What do you mean choose wisely? Witcher 3 dificulty is a joke even on death march, which means none of those choices matter because the game is too easy for it to matter.
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Your underlying point that the most difficult game is the best game is just as irrational.
 
bender said:
I'm not sure why the default settings of a game don't hold? That's how the developers intend you to play it. Is turning off the quest markers as detrimental to the experience as say, Skyrim? No. But the quest design does fall back on the waypoint system. It's a losing battle, but I really want open world games to return to the likes of Morrowind. No maps, just in game quest dialog/text and sign posts and with a limited fast travel system (Silt Striders) that made since in the game world. I use this as an example a lot, but one of my favorite quests in Morrowind's original PC release gave you incorrect directions. I'm not sure if it was intentional or not (knowing Bethesda, probably just a QA error) but those bogus directions while frustrating, lead me on a whole other adventure. And speaking of Breath of the Wild, one of my favorite side quests in that game just gave the player somewhat cryptic directions to a hidden chest. Personally, the exploration in the Souls games is far more rewarding than anything found in the Witcher.

Witcher 3 just follows modern open world design philosophies of leading players by the nose to every piece of content with the fallacy being that these games are so jammed full of content that most players aren't even going to finish the game, let alone track down every side quest. Like I mentioned before, it's a lack of confidence in your game design, much lack the Batman Witcher visions that highlights environment clues when tracking.

I didn't say it wasn't an RPG. I just don't think the RPG elements are anything special outside of the dialog choices. The character build choices feel largely inconsequential and that has a lot to do with how rote the combat is. And that's why I draw the Assassin's Creed/Batman comparisons, for the combat systems, not necessarily the open world design. I probably put in as much time with AC:Origins as I did Witcher 3 and I can tell you exactly the same information about both experiences which is hardly anything, as by in large, they are mostly forgettable. That's not saying either are bad, they are just easily flushed from the memory banks. And to be fair, Bloodborne's implementation of traditional Souls style character building is pretty bare bones. The only reason to start over with a fresh character in the game is to gain access to the rarest crafting materials to max out the various weapons. But I can still recall every nook and cranny of that world, every enemy encounter and every boss fight.

So what is memorable about the Witcher 3? To me, that is the dialog, characters and story so I don't see the TellTale comparison as a knock per se. I'd replay the hell out of the Witcher 3 if presented like The Walking Dead just to see the different narrative outcomes.

Maybe this is all "poor form" or maybe you take insult where there is none intended but I wouldn't count my chickens before they are hatched. I do bet you love Twilight though.
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So I can take this as your vote for BoTW when BB gets sent to the bench?
 
I have no idea why the polls take so long. The pace was great at the beginning so what's the reason for dragging it down for weeks
 
MadYarpen said:
I also don't understand why this has to be so toxic. I mean, as if it insulted someone that W3 is doing so well?

I loved both, and I am happy we had the pleasure to play both titles this gen. This semi-final can be treated as a true ending (to this tournament), by the way.
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True ending? If Botw doesn`t win i am leaving this place XD
ps: i am not sure how serious people are in this thread, i am half joking all the time, but apparently people are legit upset?
 
Enzo88 said:
True ending? If Botw doesn`t win i am leaving this place XD
ps: i am not sure how serious people are in this thread, i am half joking all the time, but apparently people are legit upset?
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I wasnt referring to anyone in particular, but sometimes it is hard to tell that someone is joking ;)
 
tassletine said:
I thought RDR2 was superior as far as storytelling went and married it's world extremely well.
Witcher 3 is too full of world breaking jank and it takes a lot more effort that RDR2 to suspend your disbelief.

The Witcher did everything first and did it very well, but the story is really all it has.
Nothing it does gameplay wise was original or even well done. I mean Christ, it's still got that horse continuously running into a wall stuff in there. Really bad.

If it was RDR2 vs Witcher then there could be a discussion, but right now all I can see is the fact that GAF prefers stories to gameplay and that makes me sad.
The stories were great in the Witcher and the world very well thought out -- But Bloodborne has far better gameplay and a much more unique (and gamey) way of telling the story.
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You can't knock Witcher 3 for its gameplay and mention RDR2 in the same breath. The Witcher 3's gameplay was not its strength, but it was still far more responsive of a game than RDR2 which literally has probably the most input lag and overdone animations of any game ever made.
 
GreyHand23 said:
You can't knock Witcher 3 for its gameplay and mention RDR2 in the same breath. The Witcher 3's gameplay was not its strength, but it was still far more responsive of a game than RDR2 which literally has probably the most input lag and overdone animations of any game ever made.
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You forgot the missions structure straight from gta3. When i failed cause i was 'out of the mission zone', my eyes rolled like the kid in the Exorcist.
 
Enzo88 said:
You forgot the missions structure straight from gta3. When i failed cause i was 'out of the mission zone', my eyes rolled like the kid in the Exorcist.
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God i hated mission structure so much in RDR2. Its a shame a game with such good story and production is so heavily hampered by its horrible game design
 
Roni said:
hence the use of underlying
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I didn't even imply that "bloodborne is better cause it's harder". I said that all the options witcher 3 gives you to customize your equipment is undermined by it's bad combat and easy difficulty.

It's still one of my favorite games of the generation, but one I played despite controlling poorly.
 
If Witcher 3 wins, it shows that God Of War is the real Game of the Generation. God of war is superior to witcher 3 in everyway. But it lost to Bloodborne.... Sigh...
 
Guilty_AI said:
God i hated mission structure so much in RDR2. Its a shame a game with such good story and production is so heavily hampered by its horrible game design
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I was hoping they'd patch the controls at some point. The movement is similar to when you have a drunk status effect in other games.
 
What don't make me vote on Witcher 3 is probably the combat and the pacing.

The Baron Arc would probably win, but gameplay combat still a huge part of that type of game.
Is hard to ignore.
 
smorgasbird said:
I was hoping they'd patch the controls at some point. The movement is similar to when you have a drunk status effect in other games.
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That's just the tip of the iceberg. It felt like its mechanics were designed by 5 different people with very different ideas. The game likes pretending it gives you choice and freedom but then takes the reins from your hands whenever it feels like, it has contraditory mechanics where some things work one way inside missions but differently outside of them, at one moment you can do a certain thing but then at the other you can't anymore, some stuff that makes no sense or is plain frustrating.
 
Fuz said:
It's not Dark Souls.
But it's far to be as bad as people are depicting it. It's more than serviceable and looks good.
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We disagree then. Yeah, the combat is not the focus of the game but that's not an excuse to make what it is, imo, the worst combat system in any open world game. Quen is overpowered, the special physical attacks are useless and there is almost no character progression (would have loved some real RPG systems here, not the menu with slots shit where you can place some bonuses).

Too bad because the rest of the game is pretty cool.
 
Tier2 said:
You can't make this stuff up.

You listed 3 bad games behind bloodborne.

Witcher 3 - uninteresting.

MGSV - worst MGS game.

BOTW - yuck!

Bad taste all around.
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You know what? I could understand people not liking Witcher 3 or being able to get into BOTWs sandbox...

But MGSV? Even the worst Metal Gear is better than 99.5% of whatever's out there. Not liking that infiltration gameplay is unfathomable.

Mhmmm 2077 said:
You sure you know what game are you talking about here?
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Jesus, 2015 was a lit year for gaming (excluding Fallout 4, of course).
 
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Punished Miku said:
I thought it would be a complete blowout in favor of Bloodborne. I honestly hated The Witcher. Cumbersome to do anything in that game, whether it's move your character, slide down 2 ft. hills without dying, using the equipment menu, making money, leveling up, combat, it pretty much all sucked.

I'm giving Cyberpunk a shot on day one, but so far I'm not a fan.
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Most people played on PC which doesn't have input lag.
 
truth411 said:
If Witcher 3 wins, it shows that God Of War is the real Game of the Generation. God of war is superior to witcher 3 in everyway. But it lost to Bloodborne.... Sigh...
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Not really. Witcher 3 is an expansive open world RPG. God of War is a semi open world action RPG with a much heavier emphasis on combat. This puts it much more into direct competition with Bloodbourne than Witcher 3 in terms of gameplay. Voters have deemed Bloodbourne's combat better than God of War's and that's why it was beat out.
 
Fuz said:
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Again, the combat in TW3 is more than decent.
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Haha okay you are right. At least we agree that Skyrim´s combat is ass. :messenger_tears_of_joy:

Why can't we have cool western open-world games with nice melee combat? Do western devs don´t know how to do it?
 
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