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Sekiro will run at 60fps on PS5 via a Patch Update
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DonJorginho
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We love to see it, now we wait for Bloodborne 60 FPS Update 
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Arachnid
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That's all I need in life.We love to see it, now we wait for Bloodborne 60 FPS Update
DonJorginho
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That and another mainline Silent Hill game and I can die happy.
SlimeGooGoo
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anothertech
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Will be great to do my first run through in 60fps. Glad I waited.
Keihart
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Unlike Bloodborne i think Sekiro feels weird below 30(which it's how the game runs on PS4, constant dips and doesn't feel as good as Bloodborne which even had framepace issues)
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Neander
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Seems like, unless patched, PS5 BC games will run exactly as the PS4/Pro.
Looking back it's clear why MS kept harping about their BC games not needing to be "boosted" and automatically use the full power of the system without any developer intervention.
KingdomHeartsFan
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Wait PS5 needs patches for this but XSEX does it automatically? Was this known? Never heard anyone mention this before.
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Sony could give us a boot mode option, like they did with pro, some months after the launch.
anyway, we dont know how emulation is running. I really doubt we will see the same performance than Pro. So we could see better or even worse performance when the game is not patched
ZehDon
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Not sure if sarcastic... but yes, this was covered in Cerny's Road to PS5 where he outlined the hardware profiles.
Without intervention, PS4 games on PS5 will run and look exactly as they do right now on PS4. The game needs to be patched, or Sony needs to manually add the game to their "Boost Mode" whitelist to see any improvements.
One of the benefits of Microsoft's approach is that no intervention is necessary; every game runs and looks better automatically.
KingdomHeartsFan
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Not sarcastic, I couldn't sit through Cerny's nerd talk was boring af.
Neko Mimi Mode
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In fact, we knew this already.
Without boost mode, the PS5 is perfectly emulating the PS4(Pro) specifications. It's a complete, like-for-like experience which is why Boost Mode comes along, for select titles, and allows up to 60fps instead.
People were always confused why BC boost mode was so important when, by rights, the game would brute-force run at it's max framerate target anyway. But PS5 BC isn't using the full power of the console, it's simply mimicking PS4(Pro) by switching to presets. The advantage of this is the 99% compatability on day one, while the disadvantage is that many games simply won't be patched for more.
Without boost mode, the PS5 is perfectly emulating the PS4(Pro) specifications. It's a complete, like-for-like experience which is why Boost Mode comes along, for select titles, and allows up to 60fps instead.
People were always confused why BC boost mode was so important when, by rights, the game would brute-force run at it's max framerate target anyway. But PS5 BC isn't using the full power of the console, it's simply mimicking PS4(Pro) by switching to presets. The advantage of this is the 99% compatability on day one, while the disadvantage is that many games simply won't be patched for more.
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Shmunter
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Sounds like a one of optimisation, not a universal
Codes 208
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And perhaps a rez bump please. Or an option to remove that godawful chromatic aberration
TheKillerStove
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I could be wrong, but I think I understand why they did it like this. PS4 BC probably caps the hardware to simulate ps4/pro conditions so stuff is less likely to break. That would explain why only a handful of games won't work. Limit it so most stuff works, and let devs go back and optimize their games to use the new hardware if they want to.
TheKillerStove
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That's what I'm getting from this story. Makes sense when looking to maximize compatibility, but it's definitely disappointing for older games that might not get patched for PS5. That said, they haven't confirned anything. We're just speculating based on the info we have.
borborygmus
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It's cycle accurate emulation, meaning it fully simulates the hardware, including its limitations.
SkylineRKR
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I think I prefer MS' approach. Most of the relevant games will work anyway, and if they do, they're buffed. You don't have to hope for patches.
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Neko Mimi Mode
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PS5 Boost Mode Explained - How It Enhances PS5, PS4 Games - PlayStation Universe
PS5 Boost Mode explained - in this guide we bring you up to speed on the PlayStation 5's Boost Mode and how it enhances PS4 and PS5 games.
www.psu.com
Basically yes, it seems BC will automatically cause the PS5 to emulate the PS4 (Pro) - this obviously let's almost every game run right off the bat, with few issues. That said, many games won't receive patches for more.
duhmetree
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong....
Microsoft is using directx like your PC. Scalability is there.
Sonys custom API is not built like that. There's a lot more fine tuning
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T-Barbs
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The parry mechanics of this game require precision and smoothness. This is the reason why after the first boss i stopped to play and decided to wait for PS5.
Togheter with the frame pacing issues, the 30 fps were ruining the experience for me and i am happy now to see i took the right decision.
In the same time, i am a bit delusional that the boost mode is not automatic and requires a patch to enable what should be exploited for default.
I hope that in the near future, Sony will find their way to improve the BC and let the better hardware to improve the performances of the old titles automatically.
Togheter with the frame pacing issues, the 30 fps were ruining the experience for me and i am happy now to see i took the right decision.
In the same time, i am a bit delusional that the boost mode is not automatic and requires a patch to enable what should be exploited for default.
I hope that in the near future, Sony will find their way to improve the BC and let the better hardware to improve the performances of the old titles automatically.
fersnake
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the game on xsx doesnt run at a locked 60fps btw
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Stuart360
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That is a fair point. You just have to look at the OneX vs PS4Pro game patches from a lot of Japanese devs to see how very little effort seemed to be put into the OneX patches, conpared to western devs.
Its the reason why i wouldnt be at all surprised if the 4k/60 on PS5 Yakuza rumour ends up being true (the game is 1440p/60 on XSX).
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Neko Mimi Mode
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Was Lance McDonald
He said Sekiro will need a patch to run at mostly 60fps on PS5, while it does this without a patch on XsX
FranXico
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If the game had unlocked framerate on the PS4Pro, the PS5 will surely be able to boost it. If the framerate was capped, a patch is needed.
Sekiro has capped the framerate to 60, but Pro is running between 40-50
The Tweet is no longer available.
So, does that mean it was fake?
But the xsx has the stronger CPU and GPU and the game has not a stable 60fps on xsx. So I guess it won't be better on PS5 in boost mode without a patch. And before I play uncapped 60, I would play capped 30, at least if VRR does not work (depends on the update Sony delivers for my TV).
So, does that mean it was fake?
yes, if sony allows boost-mode like they did on PS4 Pro this should not be a real problem.
But the xsx has the stronger CPU and GPU and the game has not a stable 60fps on xsx. So I guess it won't be better on PS5 in boost mode without a patch. And before I play uncapped 60, I would play capped 30, at least if VRR does not work (depends on the update Sony delivers for my TV).
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Sebastian Suola
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The game was fine (at least on ps4 pro). You just sucked and gave up too easily. 60 fps won't magically make you good at the game, sorry.
The game was performing better on Pro than X.
Danjin44
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I would say the parry mechanics in Sekiro is much more generous and easy to pull off compare to other games.
Honesty Bayonetta's parry was much difficult to pull off compare to Sekiro in my opinion.
nowhat
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Not by default, according to Cerny's presentation. Think PS4 vs. Pro - without a Pro patch, half of the GPU is disabled and the CPU/GPU runs at the base clock speeds, so it acts exactly like a base model. "Hardware emulation" in a way I suppose. Similarly, PS5 will be able to mimic either a base model or a Pro, so the game will run identically, but with no added benefits.
Will we see a "boost mode" like on a Pro at some point, very likely, but AFAIK one hasn't been announced for launch.
Well, God of War seemingly required a patch to run at 60fps, despite being unlocked, so maybe not.
Ass of Can Whooping
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He realised he was spreading FUD and deteted his tweet. Case closed
PS4 games will already be boosted. Those that can't handle the boost either won't work or are most likely flagged to run in compatibility mode
PS4 games will already be boosted. Those that can't handle the boost either won't work or are most likely flagged to run in compatibility mode
Ass of Can Whooping
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Source?
Neko Mimi Mode
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You make this sound automatic, but Cerny said they would be boosted on a case-by-case basis starting with the top 100 most popular PS4 games.
Everything we know about the PS5 BC indicates that it emulates PS4(Pro) hardware to ensure high compatability.
Zheph
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its God of War III that got patched not the one you think
No, it was both.
Ass of Can Whooping
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Zheph
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my bad, just saw 1.34 earlier this month