Upcoming Indiana Jones game is a Xbox console Exclusive

SLB1904 said:
Lmfao.

Just like tomb raider was bigger than nicheman
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I don't know what nicheman is…

Wolverine is nowhere near the draw Spider-Man is - I struggle to see anything but a Rocksteady Batman game clone. They'll reskin Spidey without the webslinging. Could knock that out in 18 months…

Indiana Jones on the other hand, it's impossible to even guess which path the godfather of both Tomb Raider and Uncharted will take… So many possibilities (including that it turns out shit lol).

The fanboyism really knows no bounds - sign a deal with Sony and all of a sudden everyone claims they always loved something since the dawn of time.

Fortunately, I'll be able to play both if either turns out worthy.
 
Aguero9320 said:
I don't know what nicheman is…

Wolverine is nowhere near the draw Spider-Man is - I struggle to see anything but a Rocksteady Batman game clone. They'll reskin Spidey without the webslinging. Could knock that out in 18 months…

Indiana Jones on the other hand, it's impossible to even guess which path the godfather of both Tomb Raider and Uncharted will take… So many possibilities (including that it turns out shit lol).

The fanboyism really knows no bounds - sign a deal with Sony and all of a sudden everyone claims they always loved something since the dawn of time.

Fortunately, I'll be able to play both if either turns out worthy.
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I'm pretty sure Nicheman is Spider-Man as some clown here claimed Spider-Man was niche with no drawing power.

I always thought Rocksteady stole the fighting mechanics from Spider-Man 2 game (Toby Maguire).
 
I'm stunned anybody is underestimating how good this could turn out to be.



Watch this opening intro to Wolfenstein 2: The New Colossus.. Any team that can make the opening sequence of any videogame this badass, this intense, this cinematic while the player is fighting in a wheelchair, is a team I would not be sleeping on with an IP as rife with potential and adventure as an Indiana Jones game. Come on..
 
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Aguero9320 said:
The fanboyism really knows no bounds - sign a deal with Sony and all of a sudden everyone claims they always loved something since the dawn of time.
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How did logan movie do?
Wolverine is one of most beloved characters in the x-men. And the excitement doesn't come just because they sign a deal with Sony. But is insomniac who's making it. Compare the difference between insomniac spiderman vs Activision spiderman. And the trailer of wolverine showed a lot of things that are faithful to the character. Brutal, hairy, eye patch and it will use spiderman engine.
So yeah people are translating what insomniac did with spiderman to wolverine.
 
SLB1904 said:
How did logan movie do?
Wolverine is one of most beloved characters in the x-men. And the excitement doesn't come just because they sign a deal with Sony. But is insomniac who's making it. Compare the difference between insomniac spiderman vs Activision spiderman. And the trailer of wolverine showed a lot of things that are faithful to the character. Brutal, hairy, eye patch and it will use spiderman engine.
So yeah people are translating what insomniac did with spiderman to wolverine.
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Rightfully so. Everybody has legitimate reason to be super excited about this game. It's all there. Insomniac, that Spider-Man engine (an upgraded one clearly being made for Spider-Man 2), big budget too of course. People are right to be excited.

It's totally fair, however, to be just as excited about Indiana Jones from MachineGames. That team has the bonafides. They were made for this. They do insanely good gunplay, some of the best, they do incredible first person perspectives (not sure if this game will be first or third person, but I'd lean towards it being first person), they know how to immerse and do strong production value. And I have zero doubts about the quality of the engine they will be working with. They got the tools to make this one a legendary game, just as Insomniac has the tools to make Wolverine one to remember.
 
Gavon West said:
Jesus. The grieving process takes a while for some. Okay, my dude. You keep believing that. Good luck
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You're reliable, I'll give you that. 🤣

Opinions are like arseholes, everyone's got one. But facts are facts dude, a contract that neither of us has seen determines what happening here. I don't really care though, I'll still be able to play it either way.
 
Interesting idea if true. Would like to see a better take other than cinematic boring experiences with recent Uncharted titles.

Problem is...this rumor is based on what? A hashtag? You guys are console warring over a hashtag?
 
MDSLKTR said:
Idk worked out pretty well for Jurassic Parc despite the recent awful movies.
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I know, and its no reflection on the game's potential quality at all.

Its just another franchise that at one time I'd be hyped about a new instalment of, but now... meh.

Fucking Hollywood.
 
I don't think console makers would have their first party teams, dedicate their time and resources, to develop a multiplatform (especially on other competing consoles) game off of a licensed property.

Indy is developed by Machine Games, a Microsoft first party studio, and published by them. Similarly, Wolverine is developed by Insomniac Games, a Sony first party studio, and published by them.

Sony and Microsoft, would have straight up refused both these deals with Disney, if they didn't get exclusivity to their consoles.

This deal is unlike what Sony pulled off with Disney in context of the KOTOR Remake. Aspyr Media are not owned by Sony but Embracer Group, and it's clearly a timed exclusive for a year going by it's wording in the PR.

Then again, you've had Sony releasing MLB The Show this year as a multiplatform game which is from a licensed IP, and credible Xbox Insiders are casting doubts on this being a full Xbox exclusive.

Aaron Greenberg should just come out and shut down this conversation from even happening, like he did with Starfield and ESVI sometime ago, clarify if it's a full exclusive (I still think it is going by all the signs pointing to it) or timed.
 
VolticArchangel said:
Then again, you've had Sony releasing MLB The Show this year as a multiplatform game which is from a licensed IP, and credible Xbox Insiders are casting doubts on this being a full Xbox exclusive.

Aaron Greenberg should just come out and shut down this conversation from even happening, like he did with Starfield and ESVI sometime ago, clarify if it's a full exclusive (I still think it is going by all the signs pointing to it) or timed.
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Why would Aaron do that?

By letting people think Indy has a chance of being multiplat they get everyone involved in the conversation about the game.

Free marketing.
 
Kerotan said:
And Disney won't want to exclude the dominant platform. Xbox sales pale in comparison. The uncharted crowd is on PlayStation and tomb raider sells way more. Xbox sales won't do it justice and I doubt pc will pick up the slack.
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Yeah there's the fact that Playstation is the dominant platform.

Then there's the fact that Microsoft would want this on GamePass day one - so console sales would likely be relatively low despite the cachet that the Indiana Jones name brings.
 
ManaByte said:
The reason why Spider-Man was exclusive on PS4 was explained by Insomniac. Marvel Games (WHO OWNS EVERY MARVEL CHARACTER GAME RIGHTS) offered Insomniac an exclusive game. Insomniac chose Spider-Man. It had nothing to do with Sony having the movie rights:
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I don't believe that for one second and neither should you. I suppose it's just a coincidence that Sony allow Marvel to use Spider-Man in their movies at the same time as Marvel give Sony the ability to make an exclusive Spider Man game? Nah, pull the other one.

Sony leveraged their movie license to get spider man exclusive games. That's fine, that's business, but don't piss in my mouth and tell me it's lemonade.
 
MrFunSocks said:
I don't believe that for one second and neither should you. I suppose it's just a coincidence that Sony allow Marvel to use Spider-Man in their movies at the same time as Marvel give Sony the ability to make an exclusive Spider Man game? Nah, pull the other one.

Sony leveraged their movie license to get spider man exclusive games. That's fine, that's business, but don't piss in my mouth and tell me it's lemonade.
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Yup, and it seems they got more than Spider-Man.
 
Hezekiah said:
Yeah there's the fact that Playstation is the dominant platform.

Then there's the fact that Microsoft would want this on GamePass day one - so console sales would likely be relatively low despite the cachet that the Indiana Jones name brings.
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Not on PlayStation. Full price sales would be huge.
 
pqueue said:
MS has $135BILLION cash on hand and a market cap 7x that of Disney.

They can out money hat Disney any day of the week.
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This is some kind of dumb. It always comes to MS market cap and cash on hand with fangirls.
If money is the answer then why don't MS buy everyone up? I mean why not buy Sony, Nintendo and Disney?
 
BPX said:
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Enjoy your UC4 remaster brehs
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Sony don't need an Indiana Jones game. They already have the Premier Indiana Jones games in the Uncharted franchise.
I don't even think it will be better than Uncharted except for the music.
 
To everyone saying it was obvious that Indiana Jones was going to be an Xbox exclusive...it reaaalllly, reaaaaaalllly wasn't.

Microsoft doesn't own Indiana Jones, lol.

This "rumor" only started kicking around after Sony teased Wolverine as an exclusive. Before this, it was entirely up in the air. IMO, it still is.

To the the mouth-breathers doubling down on this, Psychonauts 2.
 
coffinbirth said:
To everyone saying it was obvious that Indiana Jones was going to be an Xbox exclusive...it reaaalllly, reaaaaaalllly wasn't.

Microsoft doesn't own Indiana Jones, lol.

This "rumor" only started kicking around after Sony teased Wolverine as an exclusive. Before this, it was entirely up in the air. IMO, it still is.

To the the mouth-breathers doubling down on this, Psychonauts 2.
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Psychonauts was publicly promised a PlayStation version because it was crowd funded at first... How is that relatable to Indiana Jones
 
elliot5 said:
Psychonauts was publicly promised a PlayStation version because it was crowd funded at first... How is that relatable to Indiana Jones
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Promised, yes. Because the promise created an obligation that needed to be fulfilled. It's the same reason Indiana Jones is relatable.

The contract b/w Zenimax and Disney was made prior to MS's acquisition. If the contract said the game will be developed and released on all platforms, that's also an obligation that now needs to be fulfilled by Zenimax/Microsoft. Same thing.

The only exception is that MS reached out to Disney after the acquisition and re-negotiated the contract and made it either a timed or full exclusive. And no one yet knows if it did or didn't happen unless one of the parties officially confirms it.
 
elliot5 said:
Doesn't really answer the question
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Probably because it wasn't the point, but if you're going to go that route, fine, Minecraft Dungeons.

The point was just because Microsoft owns the studio or IP (as MANY in this thread have been parroting), it doesn't automatically mean a game will be an Xbox exclusive...ESPECIALLY considering an IP such as Indiana Jones or Star Wars, etc.

But lets not be silly here, if Microsoft REALLY wanted to, they could've paid to have Psychonauts 2 be an Xbox exclusive, regardless of prior arrangements, but the optics on that wouldn't have been a favorable pr move.
 
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Clear said:
Was a true icon. How many progressively weaker sequels does it take before you have to admit that the IP isn't what it once was?
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the IP can reborn Ina fraction of a second if is done good. today's advendurer movies still are exactly inspired by indiana jones
 
MonarchJT said:
the IP can reborn Ina fraction of a second if is done good. today's advendurer movies still are exactly inspired by indiana jones
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The problem is in today's cultural climate it most likely won't be "done good"!

Indy does not fit well into PC culture! Hell, Raiders was a throwback even in the 80's and that was a time when looking back to the past times didn't demand "consciousness" of racial/gender/sexual politics not to mention colonialism/white imperialism.
 
John Wick said:
This is some kind of dumb. It always comes to MS market cap and cash on hand with fangirls.
If money is the answer then why don't MS buy everyone up? I mean why not buy Sony, Nintendo and Disney?
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yes your reply is all kinds of dumb, beyond its non sequitur.

It was in response to a prior poster who was talking existing contracts. My reply was that if MS wanted to make this single platform instead of multi (assuming the original license stated the game as such), they could pay the license holder if needed to do so.

That is a statement of fact.

But you went the insecure fanboy route, so good on you.
 
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pqueue said:
yes your reply is all kinds of dumb, beyond its non sequitur.

It was in response to a prior poster who was talking existing contracts. My reply was that if MS wanted to make this single platform instead of multi (assuming the original license stated the game as such), they could pay the license holder if needed to do so.

That is a statement of fact.

But you went the insecure fanboy route, so good on you.
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You're assuming that the license holder is only interested in upfront money, and not the global reach of a now-dormant IP that they are now trying to resurrect.
 
pqueue said:
yes your reply is all kinds of dumb, beyond its non sequitur.

It was in response to a prior poster who was talking existing contracts. My reply was that if MS wanted to make this single platform instead of multi (assuming the original license stated the game as such), they could pay the license holder if needed to do so.

That is a statement of fact.

But you went the insecure fanboy route, so good on you.
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Actually it is NOT a statement of fact.

If MS wanted to make a contracted multi-platform game into an exclusive then they could OFFER the Licensor more money. The Licensor would be under no obligation to agree. Even MS can't just unilaterally break a contract without consequence - consequences that are not just financial.
 
SaucyJack said:
For a licensed ip I would have thought the opposite assumption would be more appropriate.
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Sure, I'm just speaking from my point of view.

If the game is multiplat, great. If it's not, I'd be disappointed I wouldn't be able to play it on my preferred format.

Might as well just expect it to be exclusive until it's not.
 
Robb said:
Sure, I'm just speaking from my point of view.

If the game is multiplat, great. If it's not, I'd be disappointed I wouldn't be able to play it on my preferred format.

Might as well just expect it to be exclusive until it's not.
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I'm not that fussed whether it's exclusive or not, I can play it either way.

I'm just a bit pedantic on the contractual/licensing stuff which this forum seems to think that MS can (or would) play fast and loose with despite all the evidence to the contrary.
 
It was multiplatform but after acquisition MS dropped the bag and made it timed console exclusive. I can totally see this coming to PS5 after 1 or 2 years
 
Which means its pc game too..bring it on .which also means it probably will be cracked , and maybe moded later, all good stuff
 
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Aguero9320 said:
I don't know what nicheman is…

Wolverine is nowhere near the draw Spider-Man is - I struggle to see anything but a Rocksteady Batman game clone. They'll reskin Spidey without the webslinging. Could knock that out in 18 months…

Indiana Jones on the other hand, it's impossible to even guess which path the godfather of both Tomb Raider and Uncharted will take… So many possibilities (including that it turns out shit lol).

The fanboyism really knows no bounds - sign a deal with Sony and all of a sudden everyone claims they always loved something since the dawn of time.

Fortunately, I'll be able to play both if either turns out worthy.
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Wolverine is huge with gen X - who have a lot of money. He carried the X-Men movie franchise for a few decades, his solo comics and spin-offs consistently sell well with one being adapted into a successful movie itself. Sure, he's no Spider-Man, but he can definitely move those units.
 
Heisenberg007 said:
You're assuming that the license holder is only interested in upfront money, and not the global reach of a now-dormant IP that they are now trying to resurrect.
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You assume Disney are the one trying or wanting to wake up this dormant IP, why is that ?
 
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