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Rykan said:
Because it's inevitable that "Truth" becomes a spectacular failure. There's no more room for another social media platform.
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It's currently higher on the AppStore charts than Counter Social, which is the Mastodon instance the psychos are fleeing to.
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If Trump posts on Twitter he immediately loses the millions he's invested in Truth Social. He also loses the opportunity cost of billions by owning his own social media network. He also dooms Rumble and othee conservative built outlets where Truth Social is their most high profile customer.

He may still find it worth it but I wouldn't be surprised if he held out as long as possible or plugs Truth Social at every turn.
 
ManaByte said:
It's currently higher on the AppStore charts than Counter Social, which is the Mastodon instance the psychos are fleeing to.
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Thing is, nobody outside America cares, or even has access to, Truth Social. It'll die on its arse. And Trump fucking *loves* Twitter. No way in hell he doesn't come if he's allowed to by Elon.
 
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Its funny these nobodies acting like them leaving Twitter is of any significance whatsoever.

The reality is that Twitter is the chosen social media platform of the elite, and they aren't going anywhere. Musk's whole free-speech concept is predicated on breaking the leftist stranglehold on the platform that's being used to manipulate the same elite classes into conformity. The rich and famous are no less susceptible to group-think than the average user, in fact there's a solid argument to be made that a good percentage of them are actually even more easily influenced.

Its why he's spending billions on taking control of an -in truth- only moderately successful social media platform and not building his own competitor.
 
Clear said:
Its funny these nobodies acting like them leaving Twitter is of any significance whatsoever.

The reality is that Twitter is the chosen social media platform of the elite, and they aren't going anywhere. Musk's whole free-speech concept is predicated on breaking the leftist stranglehold on the platform that's being used to manipulate the same elite classes into conformity. The rich and famous are no less susceptible to group-think than the average user, in fact there's a solid argument to be made that a good percentage of them are actually even more easily influenced.

Its why he's spending billions on taking control of an -in truth- only moderately successful social media platform and not building his own competitor.
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I mean, that's nice and all, but the reason he's bought Twitter is because he thinks he can make money off it. He didn't buy it to own the libs.
 
FunkMiller said:
I mean, that's nice and all, but the reason he's bought Twitter is because he thinks he can make money off it. He didn't buy it to own the libs.
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Its not about "owning the libs" so much as liberating the public square from a partisan secret-police.

What people forget is that its not about who's interests are being served, its about allowing a system to exist with so much power and influence over discourse. Because when such a thing persists it represents a clear and present danger to free democracy.

Its bigger than party politics.
 
ManaByte said:
It's currently higher on the AppStore charts than Counter Social, which is the Mastodon instance the psychos are fleeing to.
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Both are equally irrelevant. Neither of them have a global reach. All "gains" right now are just kneejerk reactions.
 
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What's funny to me (and maybe this says more about my political party homelessness than anything) is that Elon's buyout seems to be a political Rorschach test. The woke crowd is freaking out when he's a pot smoking libertarian with billions not the Koch brothers and the right is taking it as owning the libs. Prediction Elon will do what he says he going to do which is stop banning one side or the other and make it free and open including speech both sides wont like.
 
MrMephistoX said:
What's funny to me (and maybe this says more about my political party homelessness than anything) is that Elon's buyout seems to be a political Rorschach test. The woke crowd is freaking out when he's a pot smoking libertarian with billions not the Koch brothers and the right is taking it as owning the libs. Prediction Elon will do what he says he going to do which is stop banning one side or the other and make it free and open including speech both sides wont like.
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Yup.



What will happen is that the right will be delighted about this buy out... for a few weeks, until Elon tweets something derogatory about Trump or pro-lifers, or something else that's a hot button topic for them. Meantime, the left will be having collective apoplexy about the fact he doesn't agree with their fatuous and scientifically inaccurate ideology when it comes to sex and gender.

Both camps of fuckheads will then either abort Twitter, or will continue to piss and moan in their silos... while the rest of us enjoy a Twitter that is more geared towards maintaining balance, and an adherence to the centre.
 
Pejo said:
Didn't Elon tweet like a year or two ago for someone to show him a plan where a billion dollars stops world hunger and he'd do it, but nobody could figure one out?
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He did. It was 6 billion, I think, and they did post something about two weeks later... but it wasn't actually a plan to end world hunger, it was to feed those who are starving for a year. Still laudable, but not world hunger ending.

Have no idea whether he followed through anyway, but this did happen in Feb:

https://fortune.com/2022/02/15/elon-musk-5-7-billion-donation-weeks-after-asking-un-world-hunger/
 
The people kicking and screaming about hate speech are failing to realize that liberals like with the topic of gender muddy the topic so much that it becomes difficult to discuss. What was simple to understand decades ago is borderline insane today, just look at what is happening in Europe where misgendering someone could be interpreted as hate speech which is beyond ridiculous. So while they say "we're against hate speech" you may be thinking one thing but they're thinking something entirely different cause their personal list of what falls under that umbrella has grown many many times longer.
 
DeaDPooL_jlp said:
The people kicking and screaming about hate speech are failing to realize that liberals like with the topic of gender muddy the topic so much that it becomes difficult to discuss. What was simple to understand decades ago is borderline insane today, just look at what is happening in Europe where misgendering someone could be interpreted as hate speech which is beyond ridiculous. So while they say "we're against hate speech" you may be thinking one thing but they're thinking something entirely different cause their personal list of what falls under that umbrella has grown many many times longer.
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Who was banning books from schools, again?
 
Elon buying Twitter is fine, but I don't support his free speech mantra. I believe strongly in free speech, but there is a really good reason places like here have moderators. Those of us who experienced the early days of the internet remember a time when there was little to no moderation on public forums. It was an experiment that ended pretty poorly for any site with even a modicum of popularity. We've seen how FB and Twitter already allowed batshit fucking insane conspiracy nut circle jerks like Qanon to flourish. We all know at least one person who's repeated some utterly dumbfuck "news" story that they read on FB. My fucking cousin in the UK was flooding my timeline with 5G conspiracy nonsense during the early days of the pandemic.

People can't be trusted to make smart decisions and distinguish between good and bad information. The majority of people are idiots. If you don't agree with this, you're probably one of those idiots. Going to uni isn't the be-all, end-all, but what it does kinda do is put you in a higher density of intelligent people, or at least people who can make rational/logical decisions. So you get to see the severe drop-off in quality of conversation and debate once you leave those enclaves and mingle with the rest of gen pop. Most people are shockingly slow, to the point that you have to be concerned about the ability for these lemmings to be lead astray.

So, I think there's a continued need for moderation, and not just of child porn and other illegal content. I think there has to be a continued push to fact check information, because we've already seen what happens when you don't. I also think people like Trump deserve to remain banned, because Jan 6 wasn't pulled off by the best and brightest of us. Those are the gullible lemmings who consume all orders of bad information, that amplifies their insecurities. Failing to heed these warnings from the very recent past will guarantee that we repeat the same failures in the future. So, I hope before we go stripping away all the limiters, that there's a plan in place to protect the soft--headed folks who outnumber those of us who aren't going to run off and do some dumb shit.
 
Pejo said:
Didn't Elon tweet like a year or two ago for someone to show him a plan where a billion dollars stops world hunger and he'd do it, but nobody could figure one out?
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Correct
They keep claiming, and in theory they may be right, but first of sll it would require the people of the affected countries to change their ways, however corruption, laziness and oppression often sits too deep.
 
MastaKiiLA said:
Elon buying Twitter is fine, but I don't support his free speech mantra. I believe strongly in free speech, but there is a really good reason places like here have moderators. Those of us who experienced the early days of the internet remember a time when there was little to no moderation on public forums. It was an experiment that ended pretty poorly for any site with even a modicum of popularity. We've seen how FB and Twitter already allowed batshit fucking insane conspiracy nut circle jerks like Qanon to flourish. We all know at least one person who's repeated some utterly dumbfuck "news" story that they read on FB. My fucking cousin in the UK was flooding my timeline with 5G conspiracy nonsense during the early days of the pandemic.

People can't be trusted to make smart decisions and distinguish between good and bad information. The majority of people are idiots. If you don't agree with this, you're probably one of those idiots. Going to uni isn't the be-all, end-all, but what it does kinda do is put you in a higher density of intelligent people, or at least people who can make rational/logical decisions. So you get to see the severe drop-off in quality of conversation and debate once you leave those enclaves and mingle with the rest of gen pop. Most people are shockingly slow, to the point that you have to be concerned about the ability for these lemmings to be lead astray.

So, I think there's a continued need for moderation, and not just of child porn and other illegal content. I think there has to be a continued push to fact check information, because we've already seen what happens when you don't. I also think people like Trump deserve to remain banned, because Jan 6 wasn't pulled off by the best and brightest of us. Those are the gullible lemmings who consume all orders of bad information, that amplifies their insecurities. Failing to heed these warnings from the very recent past will guarantee that we repeat the same failures in the future. So, I hope before we go stripping away all the limiters, that there's a plan in place to protect the soft--headed folks who outnumber those of us who aren't going to run off and do some dumb shit.
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This is a good post. Thank you.
 
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MastaKiiLA said:
Elon buying Twitter is fine, but I don't support his free speech mantra. I believe strongly in free speech, but there is a really good reason places like here have moderators. Those of us who experienced the early days of the internet remember a time when there was little to no moderation on public forums. It was an experiment that ended pretty poorly for any site with even a modicum of popularity. We've seen how FB and Twitter already allowed batshit fucking insane conspiracy nut circle jerks like Qanon to flourish. We all know at least one person who's repeated some utterly dumbfuck "news" story that they read on FB. My fucking cousin in the UK was flooding my timeline with 5G conspiracy nonsense during the early days of the pandemic.

People can't be trusted to make smart decisions and distinguish between good and bad information. The majority of people are idiots. If you don't agree with this, you're probably one of those idiots. Going to uni isn't the be-all, end-all, but what it does kinda do is put you in a higher density of intelligent people, or at least people who can make rational/logical decisions. So you get to see the severe drop-off in quality of conversation and debate once you leave those enclaves and mingle with the rest of gen pop. Most people are shockingly slow, to the point that you have to be concerned about the ability for these lemmings to be lead astray.

So, I think there's a continued need for moderation, and not just of child porn and other illegal content. I think there has to be a continued push to fact check information, because we've already seen what happens when you don't. I also think people like Trump deserve to remain banned, because Jan 6 wasn't pulled off by the best and brightest of us. Those are the gullible lemmings who consume all orders of bad information, that amplifies their insecurities. Failing to heed these warnings from the very recent past will guarantee that we repeat the same failures in the future. So, I hope before we go stripping away all the limiters, that there's a plan in place to protect the soft--headed folks who outnumber those of us who aren't going to run off and do some dumb shit.
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Fan-fucking-tastic post :lollipop_fire:
 
Pejo said:
Didn't Elon tweet like a year or two ago for someone to show him a plan where a billion dollars stops world hunger and he'd do it, but nobody could figure one out?
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They did figure one out and the United Nations explained how they would use the 6 Billion towards the effort.

Elon never responded as far as I know.


www.cnn.com

UN to Elon Musk: Here's that $6 billion plan to fight world hunger | CNN Business

The director of the United Nations’ World Food Programme laid out a plan to spend $6.6 billion to combat world hunger — a direct response to a back-and-forth with Tesla CEO Elon Musk, who claimed he would sell Tesla stock to fund a plan if the WFP could describe “exactly how” it would work.
www.cnn.com www.cnn.com
 
DeaDPooL_jlp said:
Which example are you explicitly mentioning? Cause assuming you're mentioning the ones I am thinking of these are in no way similar but I'll wait to see what your response is.
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I can't, because there's a no politics rule in place and this is a political topic.
 
MastaKiiLA said:
Elon buying Twitter is fine, but I don't support his free speech mantra. I believe strongly in free speech, but there is a really good reason places like here have moderators. Those of us who experienced the early days of the internet remember a time when there was little to no moderation on public forums. It was an experiment that ended pretty poorly for any site with even a modicum of popularity. We've seen how FB and Twitter already allowed batshit fucking insane conspiracy nut circle jerks like Qanon to flourish. We all know at least one person who's repeated some utterly dumbfuck "news" story that they read on FB. My fucking cousin in the UK was flooding my timeline with 5G conspiracy nonsense during the early days of the pandemic.

People can't be trusted to make smart decisions and distinguish between good and bad information. The majority of people are idiots. If you don't agree with this, you're probably one of those idiots. Going to uni isn't the be-all, end-all, but what it does kinda do is put you in a higher density of intelligent people, or at least people who can make rational/logical decisions. So you get to see the severe drop-off in quality of conversation and debate once you leave those enclaves and mingle with the rest of gen pop. Most people are shockingly slow, to the point that you have to be concerned about the ability for these lemmings to be lead astray.

So, I think there's a continued need for moderation, and not just of child porn and other illegal content. I think there has to be a continued push to fact check information, because we've already seen what happens when you don't. I also think people like Trump deserve to remain banned, because Jan 6 wasn't pulled off by the best and brightest of us. Those are the gullible lemmings who consume all orders of bad information, that amplifies their insecurities. Failing to heed these warnings from the very recent past will guarantee that we repeat the same failures in the future. So, I hope before we go stripping away all the limiters, that there's a plan in place to protect the soft--headed folks who outnumber those of us who aren't going to run off and do some dumb shit.
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I don't actually think for one moment he intends to throw the doors open to every single lunatic out there, because it just doesn't make any business sense. Musk is, above all else, a free market capitalist, and success in that free market relies on providing customers with a product they like. Twitter is as much a product as anything, and if it becomes a bonfire of unregulated opinion, it's going to turn off the majority of people... and fail as a financially viable proposition.

Musk is clearly unhappy with the way Twitter has leant too far to the left, and that has powered much of his public opinion, and no doubt had something to do with his desire to purchase the platform. But primarily he is a very successful businessman, and he knows (just like Jeff Bezos) that keeping a large and loyal customer base is the best way to make money. You don't do that but making it a free for all.

I'm not that worried about Twitter becoming a haven for the lunatics. Moderation will remain. But I do expect it to be more even handed, and geared more towards growing the subscriber base.
 
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