[CNBC] Phil Spencer: We are not putting a pause on acquisitions. Also not raising console prices.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Good. It would be nothing short of a scummy exploitative move to raise prices in a market where these consoles are already scarce enough and people are willing to pay higher than MSRP due to FOMO.
Kagey K
Banned
Interesting that the anchors are aware of Tencent and JRPGs. This was actually a well thought out interview.
The second interview has some great quotes about output, competition and value.
Full says some games will have exclusivity, but easy to access.
This hits all the right notes.
The second interview has some great quotes about output, competition and value.
Full says some games will have exclusivity, but easy to access.
This hits all the right notes.
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Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
Jim Ryan got him shook. Holy @#$%!
Kagey K
Banned
Which part was embarrassing to you?
James Sawyer Ford
Member
More Phil talking in riddles and doublespeak
"our goal is to reach more gamers"
"Exclusives have always been part of our industry and strategy and will continue to be"
The total cognitive dissonance on display is mind boggling.
"our goal is to reach more gamers"
"Exclusives have always been part of our industry and strategy and will continue to be"
The total cognitive dissonance on display is mind boggling.
anothertech
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Cringe
Kagey K
Banned
Was confident clear and concise. The anchors knew what they were talking about and he hit the right points.
Care to share a part that had him shook?
He got asked a question about raising prices and answered that they wouldn't because of the economic situation. That's basically all it is.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
He ran to media to do damage control because Jim Ryan is crushing him in terms of public perception.
Goliath bleeds.
Chukhopops
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How dare he answer a direct question in an interview, the nerve on this dude!!!
Kagey K
Banned
So you didn't watch it then?
Rac3r
Member
Tbf they did ask him about it. But I agree, he's a phony guy and his response was laughable.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
Interviewer: But with Bethesda you removed Starfield from PlayStation
Phil: we want to reach the most gamers, you can go to Xbox .com and stream it
Durrrr, it's not exclusive, you see? Just play it on the cloud
Phil: we want to reach the most gamers, you can go to Xbox .com and stream it
Durrrr, it's not exclusive, you see? Just play it on the cloud
Ah yes. Microsoft is heavily investing in cloud streaming and putting their games on Steam because they don't plan to have more gamers in the xbox ecosystem.
Pretty sure Spencer could say anything and a particular contingent of GAF would leap up to wail about 'riddles and doublespeak'.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
Phil Spencer is good at math
Reaching the most gamers possible by walling off a garden that used to be open to everyone
Phil is gaslighting all you guys with this nonsense
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Kagey K
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Seemed honest to me. They regularly evaluate and at this time it doesn't feel right to pass the cost to the consumer.
What's phony about that?
James Sawyer Ford
Member
No one talked about Starfield in any of the clips
Yes he did, 2:12 mins in the second clip he talks about making a bunch of Bethesda games exclusive, I was paraphrasing
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rofif
Can’t Git Gud
I didn't because it's in the title.
But now after I did he did got asked a question and answered.
Man, his eyes get more and more squinty. I swear he was able to look you in the eye previously
Spencer SPECIFICALLY mentions in the video that his expectation for reaching more gamers is tied to Cloud and day and date launch on PC.
A massive chunk of gamers with other consoles or less capable PCs can play via Cloud. So there's no deception there.
This just feels like thinly veiled platform warring with the relentless dissection of the most innocuous statements. Makes as much sense as going "How can Sony go with a 'for the players' slogan when they don't put their games on the Switch. There are players there too!!"
James Sawyer Ford
Member
So Phil is racist against playstation users and only wants to reach the most gamers on the platforms he wants to push?
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Paraphrase doesn't mean to attribute false quotes to either the interviewer or interviewee
You ok bud ?
How does Starfield - a new IP - fit into your narrative of "walling off a garden that used to be available to everyone"?
Since the Bethesda acquisition, games that were already on PlayStation continued to get support and content.
ZehDon
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I tend to agree with Spencer's comments in response to concerns PlayStation gamers would have to pay for Call of Duty, whereas Xbox gamers can get it for "free" on Game Pass: Microsoft is trying to innovate. Sony clobbered them in a standup fight last generation, and Microsoft would have been insane to try another round of the traditional model. Sony has doubled down on their model, Microsoft has tried to go its own way. The more Sony jacks up its prices - hardware and software - the better Game Pass looks in comparison. AUD$125.00 for just Call of Duty on PS5, or, AUD$190.00 for a year of Game Pass ultimate, with Call of Duty, Xbox Live Gold, all of Microsoft's first parties, and all of the other games on Game Pass included? Sony needs to step up and compete.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
Bethesda was a multiplatform studio prior to acquisition.
I shouldn't need to explain a fact like this.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Since the Bethesda acquisition, not a single game that was announced for PS has been un-announced for it, not a single existing game has been taken off of PS storefronts.
Using Bethesda is a disingenuous argument. If Starfield was announced for PS4/5 and then it got canceled from those platforms, that'd be something. But that game, nor Redfall for that matter, were ever announced for it in the first place. So nothing has been taken from anyone here so far.
Ah yes, that explains why Deathloop and Ghostwire have to wait 1 year or more to release on other consoles.
Kagey K
Banned
He was very succinct about it. Unfortunately many here are quick to comment without actually listening to the content in the OP.
Kagey K
Banned
That's the entitlement showing. They say coming to next Gen consoles and ppl assume that means PS5, because they deserve everything for nothing.
The rumors that Sony was trying to moneyhat it as an exclusive doesn't help, obviously Bethesda wasn't interested or it would have been locked up like Deathloop and Ghostwire.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
Ah yes, a bunch of whataboutism for two games nobody cares about that will release one year later despite Microsoft clearly having no intentions of ever releasing a much bigger title with Starfield on PlayStation
Phil can do whatever he wants but it's the dishonesty he displays by going on TV and proclaiming two diametrically opposed philosophies. I don't see Sony out there trying to pretend that they want their timed exclusive games to reach the widest possible base
Bethesda had PS5 dev kits and Starfield was going to be on PS5, to try and claim otherwise is asinine as hell
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Tomeru
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Well sure, ms has no problems in the economics department.
Kagey K
Banned
Neither does Sony.
Why are we pretending they are struggling?
They have used every advantage they could to leverage themselves while the competition did literally nothing.
Now somebody stood up and they are meek and meager?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Insiders also say Sony was in the running to bid on Bethesda along with MS and other entrants. You can imagine the comments if the bidding went a different way.
Why is there an obligation for MS to release a first party game on rival platforms that were never announced there in the first place ? They're already going above and beyond with pledging Call of Duty.
This is a weird sentence lol. The "dishonesty" ? He's a CEO on a business channel being asked questions by a reporter and answering them. And yes your second sentence is right, Sony has absolutely no interest in even pretending they care about other platforms with their exclusivities, but they do like to complain about it when others do the same.
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xHunter
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I swear i saw you write multiple times that sony tried to get Starfield timed exclusive for themselfs. How would that be possible if there never was a PS Version?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Trying to buy an IP for an exclusive period and the IP not being announced for a platform are not mutually exclusive. PS it was insiders who said that, not me.
It's like how Project Eve and Naraka were announced for one platform, but came out on the other. However in this case no announcement was made in the first place so there's nothing that was lost or taken from anyone.
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Knightime_X
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Lord Phil is doing a fantastic job.
Can't tell if its rain or mass amount of tears.
Can't tell if its rain or mass amount of tears.
Both companies are obviously dealing with inflation and the fx changes but Microsoft is less impacted for two main reasons imo:
- can deal with a lower oi margin
- less of their revenue is probably being impacted by fx changes.
As a consumer, don't think we should be overly concerned about companies having too low a profit margin. Sony is still forecasting a 8% oi on thier GNS division this year, I would normally be concerned as a shareholder except for how much of that revenue will be actually hw related.
xHunter
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Yes it was "insiders" that said it but you were the one that repeated that everytime to justify Microsofts shopping spree. It feels like you change your opinion on this based on the current topic. There was a PS Version of Starfield just like there was a XBox version of FF7R. The game was announced in 2018 way before Bethesda got bought. Its obvious to anyone with Game Development knowledge that there was a running PS version.
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March Climber
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James Sawyer Ford
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There is none, that's not the point I'm making
Don't come on national TV and lie to everyone's face about some BS regarding trying to get the most gamers to play their games. It's a totally dishonest statement.
Tell them the truth - you did it be competitive and attract people to your platform
That's all he had to say
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