I don't think that comes as a surprised by anyone. long list of google products shelved. Google could have put a bid in, or out bid ZMS if they wanted. They didn't. Them shutting down in the manner they did hurts the game industry more then competitors buying publishers.
It doesn't matter if its an independent developer. If its over 100 million pounds, it will be investigated.
No it doesn't.
Then why are you complaining with SonyToo? It's going to take its course.
And thus why MS is pivoting back towards Sony now.
www.theverge.com
The scripts keep getting re-written as we go. Now Microsoft is downplaying their own importance in gaming as a whole.
Microsoft’s full response to the CMA, seen by The Verge, also includes parts where the company tries to, comically, make it look like it somehow sucks at gaming and it can’t compete. Microsoft says Xbox “is in last place in console” and “seventh place in PC” and “nowhere in mobile game distribution globally,” and Microsoft argues it has no reason to harm or degrade rival cloud gaming services as it wants to “encourage the major shift in consumer behavior required for cloud gaming to succeed.”
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What is Microsoft going to say next?
just a joke. sorry....couldn't help it.
Hopefully you know the Xbox fanbase doesn't just consist of a handfull of GAFfers, but I doubt it.
So we can all agree that MS offer was most likely in bad faith and their argument to the CMA is disingenuous.There are two issues to consider:
The only way to mitigate the first issue is for Microsoft to agree to pay royalties to Sony for every unique user that plays a game through Game Pass that is available on the PlayStation store, and that's not going to happen because that would not be cost effective.
- Game Pass on PlayStation 5 would cut into Sony's game sales for third-party publishers who have games on Game Pass.
- Most people who have the option of paying for the game or getting it for free are going to get the free route. Why buy a game on the PlayStation store when you can play it on Game Pass for free? I mean, there's the cost of the Game Pass subscription, obviously. But you get my meaning.
- Game pass on PlayStation 5 would negate micro-transaction profit for Sony if the micro-transaction game is on Game Pass.
- Game Pass on PlayStation would almost certainly be a streaming-only option. Xbox games cannot be natively played on a PlayStation 5, and this is almost certainly how Game Pass would operate because it would be the easiest and cheapest way to implement the Game Pass service.
- Assuming the above is true, this means that everything done via Game Pass is routing through Microsoft's servers, not PlayStation's. This means that Sony wouldn't see a dime from micro-transactions for Game Pass games.
The only way to mitigate the second issue would be for Microsoft to agree to pay the 30% fee to Sony for micro-transactions made in Game Pass games on PlayStation consoles. The problem is that, even if Microsoft did agree to this, Sony would have to take Microsoft at their word regarding how much was done in micro-transactions and how much Sony is owed. This is because Sony doesn't have a way to see what micro-transactions were done. If they did, they could have just assessed the fee themselves. The only alternative to this would be Microsoft agreeing to share their financials to Sony, and there is absolutely no way they're going to agree to that. No competitor shares their books. That's pretty much only done with mergers and acquisitions.
The second issue mentioned above is exactly what Epic Games Store did to Apple with Fortnite. They routed payments through their own network instead of Apple's so that Apple couldn't get their 30% cut. Game Pass on PlayStation would be a huge loss in money for Sony. There is zero upside, and PlayStation would very likely fail.
Ezekiel_ , this this in response to the other thread that looks like it now no longer exists, but is still relevant in this thread.
Aye man all those Acti games on game pass are gonna be pretty encouraging for me as a gamer, not gonna lie.
I love my gamepass as I don't really have the need to buy games anymore.Aye man all those Acti games on game pass are gonna be pretty encouraging for me as a gamer, not gonna lie.
I don't think Microsoft are as precious about it as you think they are. You see MS Office on Android and on Mac. Microsoft are as happy selling you their software and services even if you want to use them within a competitors eco-system. I guess they think that they will try to convince you into their platform but if they can't convince you then they will bring their products to the one that you use as well.
They would have to be developing and publishing all their games on other platforms (PS5/Nintendo/Luna/Stadia oops) for that comparison to be apt. Instead, they are buying the largest publishers and yanking those games to their ecosystem for the king of the cloud push.
They have been doing this for years, it's why I find it hard to ever warm towards Microsoft in general. I remember when they used to scaremonger about the cloud because all they had was shitty native Office apps and were scared of everyone going off to use Google Docs, Sheets etc.
Dear lord how many more of these posts do we have to see. Everyone and their mother knows they mean cloud, mobile, on your tv, on your fucking fridge. It’s not their job to care about other console manufacturers ecosystem. They meant what I listed when they first said “play anywhere” and it’s still the same exact shit today.
TheGodfather07
is talking about.
www.theverge.com
The Verge said:
Talking about the hardcore fanboys on twitter and on here.
Yes it clearly does. As was shown with developers & studios not being informed early enough, suddenly needing to find an alternate source or some publishing method. Devs finding out the same time as everyone else is a horrible thing for google to do, and end users freaking out about saved data being lost without any way to save it. Abrupt exits do far more damage to the game industry.
Just stating that could happen. Who is complaining???
I'd rather take that risk and deal with each of those in turn. Sega, Capcom, Square, FromSoftware, Konami all being Japanese companies would unlikely be unavailable to buy if Nintendo or PlayStation objected - it isn't like Xbox has any customer in Japan to make a case for buying that content up and helping improve the Japanese cosnole market IMO. And as for Ubisoft, well they are not quite Bethesda AB tier - with great sales - but not quite A tier either like a T2 because they are production line publisher bashing out games without even bug fixes. It wouldn't be ideal, but what they produce could be replaced by other IMO, with very little issue for competition. Gamepass would probably accelerate the demise of Ubisoft IPs IMO.
Wait I dont understand your last part about Minecraft RT didnt releasing on XSX. Are you saying they are holding it back until after the Activision Deal passes?
You sure about that?
Yeah, that's exactly my opinion, and I even think the timelines line up for MSFT working out that the optics would show exactly what PlayStation has already alluded to them doing in the future with CoD, post-acquisition.
No, I think this is very different for the UK, much like ARM because of the importance of games development to universities and the economy.
Microsoft resorting to violence?
Timed CoD DLC. YES!
It's true tho, the competition appeal tribunal also raised the same point that the CMA is more concerned in siding with third parties in the recent Meta/Giphy lawsuits.
MS are bringing up the same talking points again so in case this goes to the courts, the same appeals will be valid here.
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Damn those vague words such as staying multiplatform and not killing the communities that have already built up.
Thankfully they blocked it since Facebook (like Apple) were already censoring their Giffy names/searches so certain gifs were not allowed to show up.Not right. The tribunal didn't say CMA was more concerned about siding with third parties. It said Meta had a right to know the full case against them from information provided from third parties. The tribunal upheld everything about CMA's decision.
"Notably, the appeals tribunal held up every other aspect of the CMA’s ruling — namely, that the CMA acted within its powers and did not make an unreasonable evaluation and subsequent remedy in this case, where it deemed that competition in social media would be harmfully reduced due to the acquisition."
Meta's Giphy deal lives to fight another day
Facebook parent Meta's been putting up a strong fight appealing the U.K. antitrust decision investigating and ultimately ordering Meta to sell Giphy, the
Whether or not CMA is withholding pertinent information from Microsoft remains to be seen, but somehow I doubt they would make the same mistake twice.
And if there is ever a time where Sony is under this process, they will undergo the same scrutiny and evaluation. Right now, Sony is not the one purchasing the largest third party publisher in the world.
What motive is that? Keeping 4+ decades of 3rd party IPs third party still and self owned to do what they want? Those dastardly anti-consumers! /s
