I think it's trash when xbox does it aswell. like you said with tomb raider and I thnk they paid for GTA 4 DLC for a year was it? But atleast those came to ps eventually ff7r and ff16 will never come to xbox and I have friends who are die hard ff fans but don't/can't spend 500 on a new console for one game.
I agree (to an extent lol). It does seem bizarre that the CMA think that losing COD is going to swing the tide that far and even if it did, how that would be a bad thing for competition and consumers.
Yep, thanks for re-enforcing my point?
What did this have to do with my post? Is world of Warcraft on playstation?
Not sure what the proposed terms were, but we'll see. Sony aren't in much of a bargaining position tbh.
Tl: dr: Sony is dominant owning almost the entire console market.
I remember, every player in the game still active bought their way into the industry. Sony did everything in it's power to drive both Sega and Nintendo out of the industry 20 odd years ago though strategic exclusively agreements, and Nintendo only survived by not competing anymore. MS spent an absurd amount of money buying their way into the industry back before it didn't eclipse the rest of the entertainment industry combined.
Die hard FF fans on Xbox when the first mainline FF on Xbox was the 13th game and there was dozens of spin-offs before that
They would have done that anyway if it made more economical sense and we would have the xbox fans saying how those timed deals are fantastic instead of pretending they are evil now when they weren't during the 360. They are doing them today even with this $70B deal and they will do them post this deal.
Well yes if they could somehow get 10s of Billions and the years to build it I'm sure they would. It's more the fact that MS are being disingenuous to the CMA about how azure gives them no advantage when they themselves have made comments that they have a significant advantage due to it. To the point where they consider those who don't have it not real competitors anymore.
Let's recall history with both eyes open to be fair. Plenty of PS Stans across the aisle were complaining about all the 360 timed exclusives and are also now calling for their return over acquisitions.
Yeah, they deffo have an advantage.
People fail to see that ms model is different than Sonys, ms priority is to get games to gamepass and for these games to stay there in perpetuity and the easiest way to achieve this is to buy big publishers with big library of games and IP's.
That's true but one doesn't negate the other. They do both and will continue to do both after this
Vertical mergers look at leverage of vertical market positions. It's not about whether they invested or not. If Sony had tried to buy Zenimax and Activision it would have faced the same scrutiny.
Of course it is.
Call of Duty will remain multiplat though.
Exactly this is microsofts direction for years and they've looked at the books and for them it makes more sense buying a publisher like Activision to ensure there is an enournous pool of ip that they can keep in gamepass without having to renegotiate deals.
You had no point. You thought "equal terms" meant something completely different and I pointed that out. You also quoted other parts of the report and totally backed away from it.
We know nothing is preventing them from getting marketing deals. You guys are complaining about these types of marketing deals when it has been happening with MS and PS for years. The report is simply pointing this out, but you guys don't like it being used against MS.
Well, Xbox didn't capitalize in sony's mistakes, instead; they choose to lazily rely on Third Party support (and even take them for granted).
Microsoft didn't see xbox as an important investment. Almost a side investment if you will. Sony ps3 is the one that screwed up so badly and made 360 more popular. Especially considering PS3 lost all the profits Sony made off of PS2 and PS1. PS vita didn't help Sony case either. It was Xbox one botched launch that helped the PS4 mostly. Xbox one would've done a lot better than 60 million in sales if they didn't over price their console and screw up the messaging.
+ the shitshow that was Xbone.
I mean, when you spend like 100B (because it sounds nice) you better be.
They're spending money on marketing deals for a reason. Both companies are doing marketing deals and time exclusive deals.
PS Now is dead. PS+ Premium exists but it relys mainly on Amazon AWS outside of PS3 games.
I just said it doesn't have it. Sony are not providing any PS4 streaming and rely on Amazon.
