Bernd Lauert
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I sent an email to the CMA. I hope Uncle Phil is proud of me 
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MasterCornholio
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I sent an email to the CMA. I hope Uncle Phil is proud of me
It's not dick pics right?
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HoofHearted
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It's not dick pics right?
poppabk
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What could go wrong
Breaking news: CMA OKs the deal as long as 'Blopsy McBlopsface' and 'The Revenge of Blopsy McBlopsface' release on all viable platforms - to include PS5, Switch and Spectrum 48k.
bluecowboys
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Every game developer is going to say something like that. Even square enix is going to say that about MS. They want great PR and not to piss off a major company that they might depend on later on.
Dragon age was a new ip and developed on a different engine (eclipse) and was worked on with the ps3 in mind. Mass effect 1 only had pc/360 in mind when it was developed. To make it work on ps3 they had to re work a lot of things. I would be surprise if EA didn’t help BioWare with the ps3 version of the game by sending some of its developers over.
Overall, nobody like the cell and even Sony didn’t lol. That is why they switched away from it.
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Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
They weren't already?
Banjo64
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In the UK? Not at all.
Still bigger but not as big a difference in other markets. Although I don't know how they would start to check the location of the sender.
Issue still is going to be vetting and going through them all really.
Oh so
"I believe we'll be Xbox 360 exclusive for at least a short period of time, We're still working out the details on that, but we've had a great relationship with Microsoft and done very well."
That's just PR for "we don't like the Cell even when we released Dragon Age on PS3 just fine" and not PR for we have a possible agreement with MS for timed exclusivity.
I can't believe you are continuing with this silly idea that ME 2 wasn't an exclusivity deal but because they had problems with an engine or the Cell. An Unreal Engine 3 game of all things. Keep living in dreamland.
Banjo64
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That poor apprentice reading through all of the responses and trying to present them in to a report.
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Ass of Can Whooping
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Punished Miku
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Actually think that might be true. They had to completely change the engine to port it to PS3. Valve famously said they were going to skip PS3 because they couldn't even hardly get it working. Bioware was barely even a console developer at that point.
phil_t98
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Yeah it’s still bigger in the uk. Boxed sales chart shows that don’t you know??!!
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I sent an email to the CMA. I hope Uncle Phil is proud of me
Ezekiel_
has been quiet all day, not a single laugh emoji on my posts.He's probably neck deep in making fake email accounts to submit his 'concerns'
Cyberpunkd
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Ass of Can Whooping
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He's probably neck deep in making fake email accounts to submit his 'concerns'
At least he ain't balls deep like you
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
The engine for ME1 and ME2 was unreal engine. They had to change very little. Do you think ME1 didn't come to PC for a year because Bioware the "barely console developer" didn't know how to develop for PC too? No it was an exclusivity agreement. If Bioware can ship Dragon age on an in house barely known engine you think they had trouble with the Cell with Unreal Engine 3? Unreal engine had good PS3 support from launch. Can you point to any mention of Bioware struggling. I've pointed to them mentioning their relationship with MS when discussing timed exclusivity. What he is saying is hogwash. Like me saying Square Enix stuggled with ESRAM in UE4 or something completely out of the blue and with no evidence.
Punished Miku
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Yeah, that's a good point about the PC. I wasn't really following PC at the time. You might be right. I just thought it was noteworthy that they had to literally change engines before porting the game to PS3. That seems like extra work for nothing.
IFireflyl
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bluecowboys
Banned
A lot of developers didn't like the cell. Why do you think Sony isn't using the cell anymore? Why do you think some games didn't release for the PS3? They are just being respectful in their PR statements like other companies. You can't be this naive.
The first mass effect game was published and funded by Microsoft. Microsoft at the time has the rights to the first game. Not the second game. Mass effect 1 was design around PC/360 architecture. PS3 hardware had a lot of technical issues besides the cell processor like the lack of ram. Which is the reason why PS3 didn't get cross chat. Also, creating the comic book strip and extra content for PS3 does take time regardless of what you believe. There was probably multiple meetings, discussions and research before they even created it. Nobody woke up one day and decided to use a comic book strip. Hell, EA was probably trying to port the first game over first to PS3, but MS still had the rights to the game at the time.
Also unreal engine did give developers issues with the PS3
https://www.engadget.com/2008-03-14-bourne-conspiracy-devs-lament-ps3s-unreal-engine-problems.html
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Somewhat on topic but it looks like Target are rolling out Series S and MW2 bundles, not sure if they're officially sanctioned or just Target bundling them but I don't recall seeing many CoD Xbox bundles in the recent years.
IFireflyl
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Somewhat on topic but it looks like Target are rolling out Series S and MW2 bundles, not sure if they're officially sanctioned or just Target bundling them but I don't recall seeing many CoD Xbox bundles in the recent years.
It's really not.
"A lot of developers didn't like ESRAM. That's why a lot of games didnt release on Xbox one. Why do you think MS didn't use ESRAM anymore? They are just being respectful when they talk about their partnerships with Sony when discussing possible xbox one versions of games. You can't be this naive."
What you say would make sense if it weren't for the fact that not once did Bioware complain about development and in fact released a version with improved graphics on the PS3 vs the 360 original. If you think development trouble was the issue why do you think they would completely deny its existence instead of saying it's in the works but may release 1 yr later? Because they made a boo boo with regard to their contracts of not mentioning that version.
https://www.ign.com/articles/2009/10/16/bioware-mass-effect-2-only-on-xbox-360-and-pc
https://www.eurogamer.net/bioware-ps3-refs-in-me2-code-erroneous
You're deflecting with nonsense that Bioware have never once mentioned (struggling in dev).
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TheGodfather07
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I sent an email to the CMA. I hope Uncle Phil is proud of me
Same. I told them the deal should should be approved and sonys dominance must be stopped at all costs. I also asked that they approve Microsofts future acquisitions of EA, ubisoft and take two. In addition, I asked that Sony are sanctioned for any future attempts at acquisitions and exclusivity contracts with 3rd party publishers. Sony, as the market leader, should not be allowed such practices.
Maybe not gamespass on PlayStation. How would you feel if you had the option to buy Microsoft games on the PlayStation like halo, gears, forza, etc?
poppabk
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Nearly everyone is gonna have some device that can stream gamepass games on their TV in the near future. Why would adding what is basically a web browser be suicidal for Sony?
drganon
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That's only happening if Microsoft says fuck it and decides just to become a third party publisher. Either way, sonys never going to let gamepass on their system.
DeepEnigma
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I swear they literally pull things from their twitter defense force and message boards. Oh wait, they did already with one of their paid shills.
Delayaru did that. Would have on 11/11.
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SSfox
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Of course there is no issue with that. It's same as other 3rd party releasing their games on Playstation, i don't think neither Sony or Nintendo would block that.
I am not talking about speculations about the future, i'm talking about actual facts. The thing is out since 7 years and it's only at 30 millions subs despites having 1$ dollars all the time. Nothing guarantee it is gonna succeed.
Sony have their own sub service, and the games sells better on PS consoles and are more profitable with PS console, allowing gamepass with dimunish the profits Sony make from 3rd party games, and even some 3rd party devs will see losses in sales.
twilo99
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I just don’t get it though, what reason does a PS5 player/user has to say that this deal is not good for consumers?
It’s obviously great for Xbox gamers and neutral for the rest.
The corporate political games are a completely different thing altogether.
Topher
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drganon
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I'm sure Phil tried. I imagine nintendo and sony both politely told him to fuck off.I'm 100% convinced that Game Pass on PlayStation was only ever going to be xCloud.
twilo99
Member
Which is definitely beneficial .. keeping games away from gamers is a noble thing to do.
Microsoft should block Sony games from running on Windows because that’s not good for anyone.
Topher
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Depends on whether that PS5 player/user believes Microsoft is going to keep COD on PS. On many occasions on this very forum, twitter, etc., we've MS fans claim all these promises go out the window once the deal is done. There are also had those who claim that COD on PS will be reduced down to Warzone and nothing else. Essentially, a lot of hardcore Xbox warriors think Microsoft is full of shit when they make assurances about COD on PS. And even official info suggests COD's timeline on PS may be limited to a few years.
Based on all the warrior banter going back and forth this year, I'd say PS have plenty of reasons to express concern. Phil Spencer has no problem saying Xbox games will be on Steam for now on. He does have a problem saying the same about COD being on PlayStation.
Edit: Also, all this is about COD, but PS gamers should also be concerned about other future entries from franchises such as Diablo being absent from their platform of choice as well. Microsoft has given no assurances about anything other than COD.
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IFireflyl
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I'm 100% convinced that Game Pass on PlayStation was only ever going to be xCloud.
The Xbox console warriors keep trying to roast Sony over a spit for making exclusivity deals, but their lord, Phil Spencer, is in cahoots with Epic Games Store who is famously known for bringing exclusivity to PC buy making agreements with a ton of developers/studios/publishers to keep games off of Steam.
GHG
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They would actually be helping Sony in the long run if they did this.
ChorizoPicozo
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Is this "Phill went to Sony to put GP on PlayStation" confirmed or another tinfoil conspiracy theory?
SSfox
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Yeah, i remember Phil saying we're not buying publishers to remove games from other plateforms, yet that's exactly what they did with bethesda games. Even the wolf in the little Red Riding Hood tale is more believable than Phil.
Topher
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How in the world would Microsoft block Sony games from running on Windows?
By the way, I'm pretty sure Microsoft can port all their games to PlayStation whenever they want, but they don't. Are they being ignoble?
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Chukhopops
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Sony isn’t in cahoots with Epic. They just invested 1.2bn to purchase a part of it.The Xbox console warriors keep trying to roast Sony over a spit for making exclusivity deals, but their lord, Phil Spencer, is in cahoots with Epic Games Store who is famously known for bringing exclusivity to PC buy making agreements with a ton of developers/studios/publishers to keep games off of Steam.
Unless you have a quote I think he actually said he would not remove existing games and would consider games which have existing communities on other platforms.
In the same interview he clearly said he wants to bring « exclusives » to « platforms where GP exists ».
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Some of the takes man, I swear.
Do you all wake up this retarded, or is it something you had to work on throughout your lifetime?
adamsapple
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huh ?
which game was removed from the PS platforms ?
Damn you phil .. you can't keep getting away with this ..
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Topher
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Bernd Lauert
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They didn't remove any Bethesda games from any platforms. You're lying, not Phil.
Topher
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Not officially he is not, but one would have to be truly delusional to think Starfield wasn't going to be on PlayStation until MS bought Bethesda.
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