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[Nautilus]

And as always, in the end everyone ends up bowing their heads to the true market leader, Nintendo.


This just reeks of something to appease the regulators. Not that I don't believe that MS will follow through with this promise(to some extent, at least), but MS is not doing it for the goodness of their heart, or because they want to be a third party to Nintendo. The moment they can lock the games behind Xbox and Gamepass, they will.

 

[Interfectum]

Jim is dragging PlayStation through the mud publicly to fight this merger and his only true accomplishment so far is a decade of COD on Nintendo platforms.

 

[Three]

10 years is enough. Nothing lasts that long, especially video games.

COD itself is 20yrs old. It's lasted that long already.

 

[Ozzy Onya A2Z]

So I guess Gampass + Nintendo is going to be a thing soon. Combat mobile install base of Google and Apple where Xbox and MS are lacking still while expanding into gamer market segments not tapped before.

 

[Nautilus]

So I guess Gampass + Nintendo is going to be a thing soon. Combat mobile install base of Google and Apple where Xbox and MS are lacking still while expanding into gamer market segments not tapped before.

Lmao

It won't. Nintendo would never allow Gamepass on its systems.

 

[Jormatar]

I can't wait to play 30fps CoDs on Nintendo. Or even better, maybe now I can experience the game through cloud and its glorious 200MS latency! What a deal!

 

[Lone Wolf]

Nintendo has to release a better console soon right? I can't imagine COD playing well on the current Switch unless it's just a COD mobile port. You would think the commitment would be for the new yearly CODs, but who knows for sure.

 

[GHG]

Because other platforms are ready to accept MS offer.
Sony doesn't have any leverage here.
Any silly game, and they will lose.


Not a bingo.
Exclusives doesn't make a sense for games like COD.

Zero leverage yet somehow the duration they are being offered COD for keeps on going up.

GHG here is Valve statement. Thought it's Kotaku.

http://[URL]https://kotaku.com/micr...utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_source=twitter

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Was already aware of this at the time of writing.

 

[Trippy]

"All right it's getting crowded in here everyone out. Not you Nintendo. Not you Steam. Not you Epic. Not you Stadia. Not you Sega. Not you Amiga."

 

[Lex Tenebris]

Sony is now diving back into Multiplayer Shooters with a new Studio.

Check Sony output of games and tell me they can't make a COD competitor.
I don't even know why Sony is stressing about losing COD when they can make they own Multiplayer Shooters and claim full revenue.

I've played every exclusive fps Sony made since ps2. No one had the quality of contemporary cod, they didn't even had the quality to be considered on par with halo, battlefield or Doom. The only one who came close was Killzone 2, but way way behind cod in term of quality and sells.
In 10 years i think they will have enough time to make something that will fill the void that cod will left, if it will become exclusive. I doubt it will be a cultural phenomenon like cod, but it will be enough for the average Joe.
I would wait before declaring Firesprite the new Messiah, wait at least until they release their first game. Also Bungie doesn't have the skill to create a refined multiplayer experience (destiny till now is in a bad shape in that aspect and halo was extremely different than cod, I would say old school) nor have a proven background in realistic warfare shooters.
But I don't think Sony needs cod, its brand is so well radicate in people mind that will still be the first or second biggest hardware maker for years to come even if cod leaves tomorrow.
They survived the loss of many exclusives in the years and they are still there.
They simply don't want to lose easy money and that a competir gain some ground

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

If this deal goes through, Jim Ryan is going to look like an absolute muppet.

Jim screaming and yelling is if he can't stop the merger get the sweetest deal he can for Sony and I think a 10 year offer is pretty good.

Plus Jim is just doing his job trying to protect Sony's interest

 

[Sanepar]

Jim screaming and yelling is if he can't stop the merger get the sweetest deal he can for Sony and I think a 10 year offer is pretty good.

Plus Jim is just doing his job trying to protect Sony's interest

10 years plus current deal is a good deal because cover this gen and next one. It would end only 2035.

 

[SenjutsuSage]

They're making grandiose proclamations solidifying things things they've been talking about all year ?

ok chief

you still haven't told us how this is "embarrassing" for Microsoft, or anyone for that matter

It's embarrassing in his mind because Microsoft actually has the audacity to make real attempts to cement its $68.7 billion deal. ChiefDada is literally losing it, as are a couple of others about even the tiniest shred of reality starting to creep in that this deal will ultimately be approved.

The amount of immediate good that this will bring to gamers, especially on Xbox, is tremendous. Simply because it's going to be really damn good for Xbox gamers has never been a good reason to block it. And now we know Microsoft has entered into a real 10-year commitment with Nintendo, which means it will be damn good for Nintendo gamers also. Now the potential benefits this will bring to actual consumers have been made more real today.

Gabe Newell pretty much endorses the deal with this statement. He says Phil and the games team at Microsoft have always followed through on their promises to them.

https://kotaku.com/microsoft-activision-call-of-duty-nintendo-switch-steam-1849862479

We're happy that Microsoft wants to continue using Steam to reach customers with Call of Duty when their Activision acquisition closes. Microsoft has been on Steam for a long time and we take it as a signal that they are happy with gamers reception to that and the work we are doing. Our job is to keep building valuable features for not only Microsoft but all Steam customers and partners.

Microsoft offered and even sent us a draft agreement for a long-term Call of Duty commitment but it wasn't necessary for us because a) we're not believers in requiring any partner to have an agreement that locks them to shipping games on Steam into the distant future b) Phil and the games team at Microsoft have always followed through on what they told us they would do so we trust their intentions and c) we think Microsoft has all the motivation they need to be on the platforms and devices where Call of Duty customers want to be.

 

[feynoob]

Zero leverage yet somehow the duration they are being offered COD for keeps on going up.

That is pretty normal.
MS didn't have to offer them anything to begin with, yet they did.

If Sony had any leverage, they would used against MS.

 

[feynoob]

COD itself is 20yrs old. It's lasted that long already.

But what guaranteed that it will last another 10 years?

That is the point here. No one knows future cod, especially with warzone in the mix here.

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

COD itself is 20yrs old. It's lasted that long already.

20 years ago COD wasn't what it is now. The IP has been going this strong closer to maybe 15 years.

Honestly, 10 years is more than enough for Sony to actually work on something that can rival COD and just move on from this.

 

[adamsapple]

I would love to be a fly in the Brad Sams / Lina Khan meeting today.

Shit's gonna be real interesting.

 

[Thirty7ven]

Crazy how MS is fighting this shit on Twitter. Absolute garbage tier company.

 

[adamsapple]

Crazy how MS is fighting this shit on Twitter. Absolute garbage tier company.

If that is the only negative you can come up with, they are definitely doing something very right

Here is Valve's public response:

Holy shit that is an incredibly glowing endorsement if there ever was one.

Microsoft offered and even sent us a draft agreement for a long-term Call of Duty commitment but it wasn't necessary for us because a) we're not believers in requiring any partner to have an agreement that locks them to shipping games on Steam into the distant future b) Phil and the games team at Microsoft have always followed through on what they told us they would do so we trust their intentions and c) we think Microsoft has all the motivation they need to be on the platforms and devices where Call of Duty customers want to be.

 

[Punished Miku]

Pretty hilarious to finally see someone of stature explicitly state that no one does these extended deals like Sony is demanding, and MS was offering contracts well above what is normal.

 

[Thirty7ven]

If that is the only negative you can come up with, they are definitely doing something very right

What do you mean? They had already said they wanted to bring it to Nintendo.

You keep stroking your pom pom like a teenage girl all you like, my point stands.

 

[ReBurn]

I would love to be a fly in the Brad Sams / Lina Khan meeting today.

Shit's gonna be real interesting.

It's a meeting between a corp and bureaucrats. Nothing exciting will happen in that room.

 

[ManaByte]

"And that's when the attack comes. Not from the front, but from the side, from the other two 10 year deals you didn't even know were there."

 

[Hendrick's]

Jim screaming and yelling is if he can't stop the merger get the sweetest deal he can for Sony and I think a 10 year offer is pretty good.

Plus Jim is just doing his job trying to protect Sony's interest

Putting all the focus on COD was a mistake by Jimbo. MS is sitting back ecstatic no one is talking about Blizzard.

 

[ManaByte]

Putting all the focus on COD was a mistake by Jimbo. MS is sitting back ecstatic no one is talking about Blizzard.

Blizzard isn't their focus. King is.

 

[Thirty7ven]

This is a check mate against regulators and Sony.

Getting Steam and Nintendo would drop the argument that the game would be exclusive for gamepass and Xbox. Even if Xbox does put their games on steam.

Having a 10 year contract signed means, it won't go exclusive on their system.

As far as subscription services and cloud it will be exclusive. Anybody who thought MS was angling to take over in the next couple of years doesn't understand the market nor MS's goal.

If subscription becomes the dominant gate for the market ten years from now it is Steam that will go the way of Blockbuster for example.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Putting all the focus on COD was a mistake by Jimbo. MS is sitting back ecstatic no one is talking about Blizzard.

Just my take but Jimmies main focus in all of this is marketing rights.

He knows once this goes through anytime there is a COD commercial, a poster in Burger King even some little banner ad there will be Xbox logo on it FOREVER and not the little Playstation jingle.

Couple this with giving perks to Xbox players just like Sony does now to play MW2 on Playstation and Jimmie knows this all moves the needle long term.

Jimmie and Phil are playing chess while most people are thinking in terms of checkers

 

[NickFire]

Nintendo has to release a better console soon right? I can't imagine COD playing well on the current Switch unless it's just a COD mobile port. You would think the commitment would be for the new yearly CODs, but who knows for sure.

My head is struggling to understand this proposition as well. How is Switch going to keep up with the base game?

 

[adamsapple]

What do you mean? They had already said they wanted to bring it to Nintendo.

You keep stroking your pom pom like a teenage girl all you like, my point stands.

*how dare they use Twitter, a highly trafficked platform to talk about this*

Ignoring that this was not broken on Twitter, but by WaPo and the like.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/video-games/2022/12/06/call-duty-nintendo-microsoft-sony-xbox/

I repeat, if moaning about this being on twitter is the only retort you can come up with, they've done something right

 

[Punished Miku]

My head is struggling to understand this proposition as well. How is Switch going to keep up with the base game?

Make it cell shaded and throw in some Splatoon bonus items and gyro control.

 

[Schmick]

As far as subscription services and cloud it will be exclusive. Anybody who thought MS was angling to take over in the next couple of years doesn't understand the market nor MS's goal.

If subscription becomes the dominant gate for the market ten years from now it is Steam that will go the way of Blockbuster for example.

Valve seem perfectly happy having a subscription service on Steam.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

 

[adamsapple]

I think the third one is the most likely option. Especially considering there won't be a new CoD in 2023.

New hardware also allows them to bring legacy games on it.

 

[Thirty7ven]

*how dare they use Twitter, a highly trafficked platform to talk about this*

Ignoring that this was not broken on Twitter, but by WaPo and the like.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/video-games/2022/12/06/call-duty-nintendo-microsoft-sony-xbox/

I repeat, if moaning about this being on twitter is the only retort you can come up with, they've done something right

It's not about using Twitter to announce something that looks bad, it's about using Twitter to bring the conversation into the public square (the Sony jab) as a way of pressuring regulatory bodies.

I don't expect a small time console warrior to understand this.

 

[splattered]

For all we know switch 2 is real and impressive and COD is already in development for it... I'm not Nintendo or Microsoft and won't pretend to know but that would be an interesting plot twist.

Also no one will probably be willing to believe it but MS keeping COD multiplatform like Minecraft might have actually been their plan this entire time. It's an enormous franchise that brings in revenue from all sorts of angles just like Minecraft. Sony may have been crying about this the entire time making themselves look bad when they didn't actually have to.

 

[Thirty7ven]

Valve seem perfectly happy having a subscription service on Steam.

What are you talking about?

 

[Interfectum]

This shit is so dumb. The deal won't even close before mid next year and it's a 10 year contract. No doubt a new Nintendo console is coming out in 2023 or 2024 so this whole "bu bu switch can't run COD" discussion is pointless.

 

[kuncol02]

What are you talking about?

EA Play - Now Available on Steam

EA Play membership helps you get more from the games you love. Unlock exclusive rewards, member-only content and a library of top titles. Learn more about EA Play on Steam.

store.steampowered.com

 

[feynoob]

This shit is so dumb. The deal won't even close before mid next year and it's a 10 year contract. No doubt a new Nintendo console is coming out in 2023 or 2024 so this whole "bu bu switch can't run COD" discussion is pointless.

It's the new 1$ narrative.

It's like people forgot switch is 5 years old console and new gen would be here.

 

[Schmick]

What are you talking about?

What do you mean... what am I talking about.

As far as subscription services and cloud it will be exclusive. Anybody who thought MS was angling to take over in the next couple of years doesn't understand the market nor MS's goal.

If subscription becomes the dominant gate for the market ten years from now it is Steam that will go the way of Blockbuster for example.

Valve do not fear subscription services, they have one on Steam right now.

 

[adamsapple]

It's not about using Twitter to announce something that looks bad, it's about using Twitter to bring the conversation into the public square (the Sony jab) as a way of pressuring regulatory bodies.

Ohh ok I get it. You're peeved because it's making Sony look bad. All companies and execs make social media PR posts like this. This shouldn't rustle your jimmies this much.

I don't expect a small time console warrior to understand this.

 

[Thirty7ven]

EA Play - Now Available on Steam

EA Play membership helps you get more from the games you love. Unlock exclusive rewards, member-only content and a library of top titles. Learn more about EA Play on Steam.

store.steampowered.com

EA play?

It doesn't even do day 1 releases of EA games, like FIFA.

Why isn't gamepass on steam? Don't spend an eternity thinking about it. Some of you must get eaten hard every time it's business time.

 

[ManaByte]

It doesn't even do day 1 releases of EA games, like FIFA.

On PC there are two tiers. The cheap one is just older games, the higher tier gets you everything.

 

[feynoob]

EA play?

It doesn't even do day 1 releases of EA games, like FIFA.

Why isn't gamepass on steam? Don't spend an eternity thinking about it. Some of you must get eaten hard every time it's business time.

Ea does, but it's premium ea play.

Gamepass steam would be great as Gabe isn't against it.

Valve boss Gabe Newell has commented on the possibility of bringing Microsoft's Game Pass service to Steam, saying there is a chance. Speaking to PC Gamer, Newell said Valve is unlikely to create a similar service of its own--"Steam Pass," for example--but working with Microsoft to add Game Pass to Steam might be something Valve would consider.

"I don't think it's something that we think we need to do ourselves, building a subscription service at this time," Newell said. "But for their customers it's clearly a popular option, and we'd be more than happy to work with them to get that on Steam."

 

[MasterCornholio]

Ohh ok I get it. You're peeved because it's making Sony look bad. All companies and execs make social media PR posts like this. This shouldn't rustle your jimmies this much.

You forgot your tag Mr testicals.



Still curious as to why you asked for it.

 

[Schmick]

EA play?

It doesn't even do day 1 releases of EA games, like FIFA.

Why isn't gamepass on steam? Don't spend an eternity thinking about it. Some of you must get eaten hard every time it's business time.

Its still a subscription service that is on Steam. They have embraced it.

Do you know if it was Valve's decision not to have day one or EA's?

 

[feynoob]

You forgot your tag Mr testicals.



Still curious as to why you asked for it.

Hint, the picture.

 

[DenchDeckard]

I feel we are reaching nuclear levels on this deal!

I can feel it in my plums!

 

[Topher]

I think the news of the rift on the FTC board is probably very real and has emboldened Microsoft in the US. Advertising Call of Duty on multiple platforms is a smart move. Whether it has any impact in Europe remains to be seen, but as I've said for a while, money talks in the US.

 

[adamsapple]

After 10 years it will become exclusive, which part of that don't you understand?

I don't know why some people are stuck in their archaic ways thinking about it.

1/ You don't sign "perpetual" contracts". MS has not done that for Minecraft. They always renew contracts and agreements.
2/ This is a historic 10 year agreement offer, a 10 year guarantee if you will.
3/ It does not mean after 10 years evil M$ will lock CoD in a tower away from Sony. They have very clearly said as much:

Microsoft reaches 10-year deal with Nintendo for Call of Duty

The pressure is now truly on Sony to accept a similar deal.

www.theverge.com

The length of the deal doesn't mean Call of Duty will suddenly disappear from PlayStation or even Nintendo consoles after 10 years. "It's not about at some point I pull the rug underneath PlayStation 7's legs and it's 'ahaha you just didn't write the contract long enough,'" said Spencer in a recent Verge interview. "There's no contract that could be written that says forever."

I fully expect anyone whose dead set in their ways to ignore this and continue to parade the same talking point, however.