feynoob
Banned
This also a loss for them, as they can't make COD exclusive, which the main argument for regulators.
Have you checked their store?
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Every system is getting COD. I don't play the games. I may try it on GP. Not really my thing. But of course they will be able to put a version of it on Switch or any system they want. It's on phones. It's on GBA. That was my point and it's obviously true. I never claimed they would be identical versions. They'll make the best they can.
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CliffyB's Cock Holster
Why would I need to when I see release schedules 52 weeks a year?
FFS Nier Automata getting released on Switch 5 full years on from its original release is treated like an "event"!
Just stop. You're convincing noone.
feynoob
Banned
If this deal means more support on steam, Nintendo, then I want this deal to pass.
Gamers first. Don't care what Sony feelings are.
Game should be enjoyed by everyone.
ChorizoPicozo
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. This deal is not about games anymoreSwitch is running Overwatch 2 natively, it's not a cloud game. If it can run Overwatch 2 it absolutely could have a version of COD ported to it.
feynoob
Banned
Because you don't give a shit about switch users.
The fact that you are arguing, that they don't these games, shows how hypocritical you are.
Switch users suffered massively from wiiu weak hardware and switch weak hardware.
They deserve these games on their next console, if it can handle it. No matter if it's 5 or 10 years.
feynoob
Banned
I know, but if that is a side effect, then I would like that.
We gamers suffered enough from exclusives.
If you count the exclusivity deals on xbox vs PS, xbox has done more game exclusives that remove it from PS than PS has to xbox. If you look at who has bought studios to completely take away games from another platform while simultaneously rejecting new games they later come to regret it's MS. Only one company has tried to buy 2 massive publishers in addition to the many smaller ones and removed games to make PS multiplatform game output and revenue smaller. Just take these two year, what games has PS taken away from xbox? They have been pumping out first party games. Now compare that to xbox in any generation, even this one. You'll find that xbox has been playing this game for a long time.
akimbo009
Gold Member
If not, then what?
feynoob
Banned
Buying publishers is massive compared to times exclusives.
If you are a PS user, you have every right to be pissed off.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
And that trend will repeat. They are not going to go with the latest and greatest Tegra with nVidia pricing, just like they went with binned Tegra's that nVidia wasn't moving instead of the latest and greatest at the time as well.
If it's at least PS4 flippy floppies, then they should be fine. CoD will be cross-gen min-specc'ed for some time with this.
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Pelta88
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Their goal was to sell the XBOX console. However. in comparison to their closest rival, and previous iterations of their own hardware, they failed to achieve that goal.
They've pivoted to GP for PR purposes because of said trouble moving consoles and software/ip.
But yet you're suggesting a service, which only brings in a total of 15% of XBOX gaming revenue, is their goal? You gotta stop copy pasting and regurgitating resetera posts and form your own opinions. Or it becomes difficult to converse with you.
Xbox Game Pass accounts for 15 percent of Microsoft’s gaming revenue, says Phil Spencer
Microsoft’s Xbox Game Pass service is profitable and accounts for about 15 percent of the company’s overall Xbox content and services revenue.
www.engadget.com
You seem more concerned with XBOX "winning" than the process that most here are watching play out. Even if that "win" foregoes 85% of XBOX revenue.
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The goal with the Activison purchase isn't GP or consoles, it's King and Mobile. Hilarious that people are focusing on a FPS they mocked and didn't care about while missing the whole point of MS trying to get a foothold in mobile, which makes more money than any console does in 2022.
jufonuk
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Wait you mean publishers flocking to a few consoles with their games with a console being left out hahahahahahahaha N64/GameCube right now.
DarkMage619
$MSFT
PlayStation is the bigger, older brand. It's almost impossible to buy a studio that has never made a PlayStation title in the past. Regardless Sony is more than capable of blocking or removing titles that have been on Xbox previously and do they that regularly with massive IPs. MS buying a studio and picking up all the associated costs with running that studio vs paying to have an Xbox version dropped are very different actions. One is a short term move and the other is done for the longevity of a platform. It's all business.
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CliffyB's Cock Holster
That same weak hardware impacts opportunity cost, which is part of the reason why third-party support is so thin despite the immense user-base.
Noone saying they don't. But why should MS involvement have any bearing on that?
Are you really so naive to think that MS really give a shit about anyone but themselves? You think they are going to subsidize support on a competing platform because they care so damn much about the industry? Really?
They want to DOMINATE the industry, its why they are willing to spend billions of dollars on acquisitions.
feynoob
Banned
I wish they don't mess it up.
I like my switch, but I don't want to miss out those 3rd party games again.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
That is not the main goal. What is hilarious is that there are some that regurgitate PR talking points like they're issued a company memo.
If King and Mobile were just the "sole goals," they would allow ActiBlizz to operate independently and remain third party as Sony does with Bungie. There are several layers of cornering the marketing by buying up the largest 3rd party publishers/devs and their decades old IPs.
They're not going to lose money per unit, nor are they going to release a $600 device. You are not getting the latest 4TF (rumored) Tegra chipset. I would be shocked and impressed if so.
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akimbo009
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Their goal was to sell the XBOX console. However. in comparison to their closest rival, and previous iterations of their own hardware, they failed to achieve that goal.
They've pivoted to GP for PR purposes because of said trouble moving consoles and software/ip.
But yet you're suggesting a service, which only brings in a total of 15% of XBOX gaming revenue, is their goal? You gotta stop copy pasting and regurgitating resetera posts and form your own opinions. Or it becomes difficult to converse with you.
Xbox Game Pass accounts for 15 percent of Microsoft’s gaming revenue, says Phil Spencer
Microsoft’s Xbox Game Pass service is profitable and accounts for about 15 percent of the company’s overall Xbox content and services revenue.
You seem more concerned with XBOX "winning" than the process that most here are watching play out. Even if that "win" foregoes 85% of XBOX revenue.
They changed their goal through innovation, and expanded their business. It's paid off a lot more than "sell more consoles" which is a dead end for them when it comes to reaching even more consumers.
ChorizoPicozo
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Two bubbles:
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MS is about to buy the farm.
Challenge:
Now they need too feed and take care of it. Their track record is spotty at best.
Sony's:
How are they going to compete against it
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The most important one:
Unionization.
If all the noise around it is actually something meaningful.....yep, is going to be chaos to all game development.
feynoob
Banned
Because bringing COD to switch allows other 3rd parties to drop their games on switch 2. That is a massive win for Nintendo.
Neither Sony, neither Nintendo. No one cares about the industry but themselves.
They should try harder, because there is no way they can do that.
Gaming isn't your average business. MS would have to buy every publishers to do that.
Their biggest enemy would be monopoly lawsuit, if they even touch EA, Ubisoft or take 2 after this purchase.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
This is the big one. Outsourcing to China, Korea, India, etc, like a mofo.
feynoob
Banned
Price would be issue.
It would be expensive if they go with power.
There is no win here.
I guess I have to suffer again.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Nintendo is not in the power arms race. They bowed out since the Wii. They have storied IPs where their fanbase suck up like crack. Even their shittiest of the shit low effort tech wise (I see you Pokemon) sells gangbusters.
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Ass of Can Whooping
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Your ability to make absolutely no sense at all is outstanding. Really
akimbo009
Gold Member
1. Yes, if we assume this going through that will be a huge headache for them. Running ABK, Bethesda, and MS Game Studios is.... Dicey.
Sony will be just fine. They'll keep doing what they are doing. They may now have an artificial ceiling added to them for a bit, but I don't think this changes the calculus. Sony will remain the largest console seller.
2. Yep, and I'm here for it. These game developers deserve it at this point for how they have treated their employees as throw aways. Chaos in that they finally don't get fired on the day after launch - which yeah - a horrible industry and employee treatment.
NickFire
Member
Have you really become so wrapped up in your own narrative that COD is now required for 3rd parties to release games on a switch (1 or 2)?
That makes no sense at all.
feynoob
Banned
They fucked that with x1. Without that, the dynamic would have been different.
Because they are a software company. This isn't a PR. MS specializes in this field.
They did that with 18m-25m userbase. That 15% is going to chance massively once the service grows.
Again, MS is a software company. This is their field. They know about software more than us.
They have azure and office 365 as money printing services.
This isn't about winning or shit. They are following their business track.
feynoob
Banned
A massive n1 game dropping on switch is going to change a lot of publishers.
This is normal logic, if you aren't a fanboy.
No stupid publisher would ignore this news, and refuse to put their games on said system.
BennyBlanco
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Seems like Sony is pushing to keep COD of gamepass. I feel like it would be hard argue to in court that keeping COD off gamepass is good for consumers.
NickFire
Member
No, it's not normal logic. Switch has sold over 110 million units. Not a single publisher has skipped that install base because COD is not there.
110 Million Units.
feynoob
Banned
How is this hard to understand?
A game that is topping the chart, being on Nintendo console is a massive news.
Do you really think this news isn't going to have any effects on the industry?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Don't make us whip out the CoD meme.
xHunter
Member
I am like 80% sure that an AI is writing all of his posts.
feynoob
Banned
Publishers Skipped, because current switch power is trash for new games. Whether the console sold 110m is irrelevant here, since the power isn't there for the switch.
Now you have a demanding game heading to this console, or future one.
Yes, it's going to change a lot of publishers mind
anthony2690
Member
What's the meme?
I was in the middle of editing my post, but you replied XD
I was going to say I'm surprised it's only 11% women as I know quite a few women that own a switch, mostly for animal crossing though.
Ass of Can Whooping
Member
I'm pretty sure developers and publishers are aware of the existence of the switch without needing to see COD, the chart topper, topping charts.
Pelta88
Member
So in your mind XBOX pivoted their entire business model to a service that makes 15% of total revenue on a whim? It had nothing to do with the debacle of 2013 which saw their market share shrink outside of the US to the point where today, there are countries where XBOX no longer has a presence.
If I posted articles about Microsoft's projections for XBOX ONE you'd probably be shocked.
NickFire
Member
No sir. The power delta stems from hardware. If they skipped because of the power delta, one piece of neutered software will not change the power delta.
Edit: Or wait, are you suggesting Nintendo will change its target specs for its next hardware because of COD? Just in case - No, Nintendo will not change its entire business strategy overnight because of the promise of COD.
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DarkMage619
$MSFT
I posted this earlier but Hoeg gave a fantastic breakdown on the 'kid focus' the Switch has. It starts at about 27 minute mark. It is amazing the knots Sony and some supporters will twist themselves into to show Nintendo is no longer a gaming competitor. I question if these arguments are made in good faith.
Hentai Sex Games On Nintendo Switch | Steamy Gamer
Are there sex games on Nintendo Switch? Yes. And until recently, they were only available for players in Japan. The good news, hentai games are now accessible to players worldwide!
www.steamygamer.com
Yup totally a 'kiddie' platform with no mature games at all.
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akimbo009
Gold Member
It's making billions. Regardless of the motives - and yes when your business is struggling you look for other business approaches - they made a good decision.
Thirty7ven
Banned
Lmao buyer, 11% of 600k, email response.
Yeah it's a worthless survey. Nintendo fans who continue to convince themselves Nintendo doesn't aim for a younger audience are ridiculous, at least own the fact you like games for kids end of story. So what if you like games for kids?
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CliffyB's Cock Holster
MS wouldn't even if have a stake in the conversation if they weren't buying ABK! Which is the point of contention.
Yes and it goes all the way down. So if COD isn't on Switch, its because Activision have determined it isn't profitable enough for them to bother.
That being the case, wouldn't a more technologically powerful Switch 2 also incentivize an independent Activision to change their approach also?
So wait, they've already bought a bunch of studios, one of the biggest US publishers in Zenimax, have ABK in their crosshairs, but they are going to stop there?
Snapping up 2/5 huge third-party publishers is where you draw the line for what's ok?
And the kicker of course is that all these acquisitions are being funded by MS other businesses, because historically their performance within gaming has never been particularly impressive.
They've had over 20 years to build Xbox, and yet they are still 3rd in a field of 3. Why should they suddenly have the "right stuff" to lead the industry? Because daddy Satya is willing to open a check-book made fat by years of monopolism, sharp business practice, and yes, blatant anti-competition?
feynoob
Banned
The difference is the said game is coming to this console, after long periods of time.
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If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Ass of Can Whooping
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Hentai Sex Games On Nintendo Switch | Steamy Gamer
Are there sex games on Nintendo Switch? Yes. And until recently, they were only available for players in Japan. The good news, hentai games are now accessible to players worldwide!
Yup totally a 'kiddie' platform with no mature games at all.
Of all the examples you bring, you bring that lmao
Whatever floats your boat.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Some folks in here confusing the lack of availability as a lack of demand, and using the WiiU, a well renowned failed platform, as an example of how CoD couldn't possibly work on Nintendo hardware.
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