Microsoft / Activision Deal Approval Watch |OT| (MS/ABK close)
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Banjo64
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I'll put that right in the drawer next to 8.8tf.
DenchDeckard
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I just can't believe it. It would look so bad to say such a thing in an open forum, would make any professional body question your motives and would sure as shit destroy any future relationship with Sony and ABK. Atleast, until a new CEO is put into put into power. Even then I dunno...
This is getting crazy now.
Wow... this is crazy to have the balls to tell ABK to their face that. Imagine being that cocky.
As I've said before ABK and Sony's relationship will never be the same. Had some people argue me down that business was business. That Sony holds all the cards.
Mark my words Sony will not be getting a new COD marketing deal if the merger is blocked. They will get the barebones version from now on. With exclusive content and better polish on Xbox consoles.
If they REALLY want to fuck with Sony imagine if EVERYONE ELSE (Xbox, PC, Switch) all got this exclusive content BUT Playstation.
If COD is so important imagine the ramifications of that. Just wow.
Thirty7ven
Banned
By buying shit you already had and then telling you it's new shit made just for you.
Amazing.
jm89
Member
Confirmation from who? Jiraiya sensei in your dreams?
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Aguero9320
Member
Seems to be getting a little desperate now
At some point they will probably have to take as good as they can get.
Agreed. The only way Sony should not oppose this ever is with a gun to their head. Which is probably where they will end up (metaphorically).
At some point they will probably have to take as good as they can get.
bitbydeath
Gold Member
Right?
The statement seems up there with admitting that MS is trying to acquire Activision.
Banjo64
cumsessed
You can't even correctly interpret what's been said.
Unknown Soldier
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SenjutsuSage
Banned
Yes, it would look bad, but he absolutely said it from his mouth. This isn't a paraphrase, it isn't her trying to be cute. Jim Ryan said those exact words from his mouth, and she isn't the only person with the ability to confirm its accuracy. Other executive-level people at Microsoft and Activision can confirm he said it, and it has been shared with anyone who is relevant to the merger's approval/disapproval.
Jim was upset.
NickFire
Member
Telling them they won't sign a deal that leads to a merger is playing it straight. There is nothing wrong with honesty. And there is nothing wrong with standing firm if you don't trust the party who wants to make a deal.
And as I've said before, ABK and Sony's relationship will be fine. Anyone at ABK who thinks that it makes sense to retaliate against Sony will be long gone after the deal is terminated. ABK is not going to burn down its own business to get back at its biggest partner for objecting to a merger. Only realistic exception would be doing a day and date COD on GP deal with MS. But that wouldn't be to get back at Sony, and its very unlikely that ABK would even accept a fair market rate. COD is too valuable of an IP to devalue its sale's potential if ABK remains 3rd party.
Banjo64
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Can you explain why it's bad that PlayStation's CEO would reaffirm their position that's already been made clear publicly, and in writing through their submissions, from the beginning of this process?
Do you actually think Sony are obliged to want this acquisition to go through and that they have to negotiate for a deal with Microsoft?
Dick Jones
Banned
It now makes sense. She has a Twitter account that people shit on and so do you, so it's logical to guess you're running her account. It makes sense...unlike your twitter account.
Microsoft have never kept their powder dry so if MS knew that and had evidence, they would have leaked it in February.
thebigmanjosh
Member
That's certainly one way to spin it.
Let's assume it's true-Jim is saying that because of the ramifications, SIE have no interest in making a deal and the only positive outcome for them is make efforts to block the merger. Not that COD is somehow irrelevant.
It's not some shocking statement. They've clearly been doing everything possible to prevent the acquisition from going through and those actions have been publicized since last year
Topher
Identifies as young
You don't know that he actually said that at all. He very well may have, but you don't know if he said it or not and you certainly don't know if he was "upset".
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It shows that Sony doesn't give a damn what ABK wants. They won't sabotage the game. They will put extra polish on other versions. Exclusive content on other versions. Basically making COD on Playstation the worst place to play (when it's currently the best place). MS will gladly pay for the marketing rights.
These are all the things Sony is arguing will foreclose competition. Now MS will get to do them for cheaper than $68 Billion.
This will not end well for COD on Playstation. Every person with shares at ABK will be affected if this deal is blocked.
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In Cold Blood
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That's how you interpret that?
Like I said, fanboy narratives arnt consistent
It wasn't long ago that people of your ilk were saying that MS wouldn't invest in Xbox. Xbox would have to be able to sustain itself. No way MS would use profits from Office to prop up Xbox. If anything, MS would can Xbox.
In reality MS uses a massive amount of those Office profits to invest in Xbox. First it was Obsidian, Ninja Theory, Undead Labs, Double Fine, The Initiative, Playground, Compulsion and InXile.
Meh said the fanboys. These are just a group of AA and Indie devs to make Game Pass fodder. MS got them cheap.
Then MS bought Zenimax. That GP fodder narrative wasn't looking to good now.
Anyway, no way MS wont put games like Starfield or TES on PS5. No way they leave that PS money on the table.
When MS crushes that narrative by making them exclusive then all the Zenimax studios are trash anyway. No one was looking forward to Starfield. No doubt it would be a buggy mess. It's just like No Man's Land. Doom hasn't been good for decades, Arkane are stink average, and none of Zenimax games will be any good anyway.
Then lord and saviour Jim Ryan complains about how MS took Starfield away from PS5. Damm, we need to change that narrative of Starfield is meh again.
So out came the Phil is a fucking liar one. He took Starfield away from us. There was a PS5 version of the game and he scrapped it. Phil needs to be sacked.
No way he can be trusted with COD. He will take it away and hurt the PS5 sales.
And now MS has invested close to 80 Billion dollars of that Office profits into gaming, destroying the narrative of MS not really caring about games, the new narrative is that because MS would have already had AB games on Xbox ot doesn't really show they are all in.
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
you were talking about worms and so did I, I just found that a weird coincidence.
Varteras
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HeisenbergFX4
Member
The "media" types going to run with it too
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Jim's burning a lot of bridges.
Alex Scott
Member
Let's assume he did say it. What does that change then? I am guessing nothing. Sony has also said to CMA they want this deal blocked back in 2022.
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Topher
Identifies as young
Interesting that Tom Warren is pointing out the fact that these were "closed door meetings" that Lulu is revealing information about.
If he believes ABK games will cease being on PlayStation then that bridge was already burned.
Banjo64
cumsessed
Is it just me or does this sentence make no sense?
the day behind closed doors meetings were held with the EU
HeisenbergFX4
Member
He is careful in his wording as he never directly says it was said behind the closed door meetings
To me its worded in a way that it could have been said to just her, off the record, before or even after the meeting
But maybe I am reading too much into it
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CuNi
Member
Just checked app store and damn. Pubg mobile has 500 mil downloads!?
That sure is a lot more than I expected. I have to admit I was wrong on that front.
But my worry would then shift to how many of these players would be interested in playing against console or pc players.
By the looks of if, those mobile games are matched with other mobile players so it's a even playing field. But if they stream normal cod, then they end up in pc and console lobbies. We all know the thoughts of players when it comes to mixed pc and console lobbies. Now imagine you throw in phone users in there too on top.
I don't know if that would be fun for anyone. Maybe they could tackle this with cloud only lobbies but that again sounds like a bad idea.. I guess we'll have to wait and see how this develops if the deal goes through, but it's still interesting to see how even competitive shooters seem to thrive on mobile, which truly was a big surprise for me.
Alex Scott
Member
Could he meant "before". That means that Sony and MS met before EU closed door meetings.
Banjo64
cumsessed
Yes that makes sense now - it was behind that threw me. Cheers bud
No. From my understanding this was said by Jim to ABK not Microsoft.
HeisenbergFX4
Member
I don't think many are shocked Sony doesn't want this deal but I am quite shocked IF Jimmie said those words to anyone outside his closest circle
Banjo64
cumsessed
I find the thought of Jim saying this in a one to one conversation with this unhinged whack job in a quiet corridor absolutely hilarious.
HeisenbergFX4
Member
Give someone enough rope and they will hang themself
Ezekiel_
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Banjo64
cumsessed
I don't know if you or Sage are delusional or are simply bragging about being fed a line directly from MS here, but either one leaves your credibility in tatters.
Doesn't Lulu work for ABK?
Banjo64
cumsessed
What is your point?
James Sawyer Ford
Banned
Why should it be a shock?
It's common sense. Of course he wants the merger blocked lol
Lulu specifically said in Jim's own words. She specifically quotes what he said to them in the meeting. What is hard to understand?
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HeisenbergFX4
Member
Of course he does but I can't imagine him making that statement
James Sawyer Ford
Banned
The statement isn't saying anything controversial. Of course the Twitter comment makes it seem more dramatic than it really is
Topher
Identifies as young
And then she waited over two weeks to post it on twitter. It is a bit strange.
I think it is strange that he would say this knowing MS and ABK are engaged in a heavy public relations campaign with the whole thing.
Thirty7ven
Banned
You think I'm going to read all that from a walking billboard for a game that isn't out yet and we have seen barely anything from?
Whatever it was, I'm happy for you. Though gig you have, my condolences.
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