Microsoft / Activision Deal Approval Watch |OT| (MS/ABK close)

Do you believe the deal will be approved?

  • Yes, will be approved without changes.

    Votes: 221 24.9%

  • Yes, will be approved but with structural changes to ABK.

    Votes: 102 11.5%

  • Yes, will be approved but only with behavioral concessions.

    Votes: 262 29.6%

  • No, will not be approved.

    Votes: 301 34.0%
  • Total voters
    886
  • Poll closed .
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Varteras said:
Jesus Christ.

"Regulators! Look how amazing we are! We signed a 10-year deal (again) with a cloud company no one has ever heard of! You should approve our deal so that the children of these Romanians Ukrainians can eat tonight! Wouldn't want to look like heartless monsters now, would you?? Slava Xboxi Ukraini!"
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How anyone is still defending MS at this point is beyond me. This company is showing just how much they are willing to lie - why should regulators believe any of their assurances?
 
GHG said:
Think I'm going to take this opportunity to make use of the ads on show at the moment:

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And when I get home to my wife I will declare the following:

"It's a victory for Ukraine and the many talented women who work there."

For that reason alone, she will understand, all will be forgiven.
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My ad is better.
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Baki said:
Cats out of the bag for smaller pub acquisition because of the Bethesda acquisition by MS. I think it's fair and even healthy for PS to acquire a publisher that will address the games that PS users will miss out on due to MS spending spree.




From has a 10 year track record of excellence and officially has the highest selling Japanese 3rd party title ever. From is the least risky buy for Sony.

CPDR value is inflated by being on a low volume stock exchange (Polish exchange) and therefore their stock value is not representative of their actual price (basically, if they wanted to sell 100% of their shares today, you're not going to find a buyer at that price). They do $200m revenue but are valued at $3B. Insane. They know it and that's why they're not trading on NASDAQ.
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The acquisitions have definitely put Sony in a certain mode, that's for sure. Prior to 2021, they had purchased 11 studios over the course of more than 25 years. In just two years (2021/2022) they've picked up 8 of them. Up to 9 if you include Fabrik being bought as a subsidiary by Firesprite. They also own 5% of Epic Games and 14% of FromSoft. They're certainly not sitting still. They're trying to secure their future output and make sure, as much as possible, that they're prepared to weather some kind of content storm.

Hendrick's said:
My ad is better.
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Aww! Look! It's a little upside down hea... wait a minute... :messenger_hushed:
 
Riky said:
Yes Minecraft is the precedent here, a massive online game that MS kept multiplatform and expanded just like they will with Call Of Duty. They did this without any interference.
Also as for Bethesda Fallout 76 and Elder Scrolls Online have been the same, supported fully on competitors platforms.
Call Of Duty is an online experience and these are the games it should be compared to by the regulator.
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Indeed. All this focus on how MS is 'taking away games' and ignoring the numerous times they have put games on other platforms WITHOUT legally binding contracts. Of course it's not like anyone has provided an example of MS breaking a gaming contract anyway. Minecraft and all the spin-offs hit multiple other consoles and I have not heard one complaint about how the non-Xbox versions have intentional bugs added to them to make the Xbox versions look better.

It is sad to see the conspiracy theories tossed out to make MS out to be some sort of villian when they do things other platforms do not. This deal obviously expands CoD to more platforms and that is objectively true. No one can honestly say the expansion of CoD access from subscription services, to cloud, to new consoles would have happened if MS wasn't buying Activision.
 
I try to check in once a week. Nothing really seems to have changed!? This thread is insane. This is some very serious stuff. 😂
 
MScarpa said:
I try to check in once a week. Nothing really seems to have changed!? This thread is insane. This is some very serious stuff. 😂
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It's why I only come in when there's a new Ida update or something lol. This thread is the OT corner of GAF now.
 
Elios83 said:
If this is true there are no words :messenger_grinning_sweat: and if it backfires exposing (if it was necessary) the opportunism...just lol.
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Mykhailo in that very thread is a Ukraine Government official.

To try and twist a positive that even official Ukraine Government officials recognize is a new low.

This helps Ukraine whether you like it or not.
 
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Is there a reason why Sony ain't doing the "media rounds" like what MS is doing?

I know that Sony likes to keep quite on things regarding their business dealings etc but in this case i believe they shouldn't let MS be the only voice speaking out, a little bit of biting back in a sense wouldn't hurt? Or would it?

Just a throught 😅
 
Flutta said:
Is there a reason why Sony ain't doing the "media rounds" like what MS is doing?

I know that Sony likes to keep quite on things regarding their business dealings etc but in this case i believe they shouldn't let MS be the only voice speaking out, a little bit of biting back in a sense wouldn't hurt? Or would it?

Just a throught 😅
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Because Sony isn't under an regulatory approval process. This isn't MS vs Sony, it's MS vs FTC, CMA, and EU.
 
Flutta said:
Is there a reason why Sony ain't doing the "media rounds" like what MS is doing?

I know that Sony likes to keep quite on things regarding their business dealings etc but in this case i believe they shouldn't let MS be the only voice speaking out, a little bit of biting back in a sense wouldn't hurt? Or would it?

Just a throught 😅
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Nah, let them keep talking and wasting time/money and energy on PR.

Sony don't need to do anything when all Microsoft are doing is shooting themselves in the foot.

Let me put it this way, if they as a company, along with Phil Spencer in particular, knew how to shut the fuck up then this deal would be 10x more likely to go through and the regulators wouldn't have that much ammunition to use against them. But as it stands every week we seem to be getting a new contradictory statement that only results in the regulators further digging their heels in.

If the deal fails to go through this saga is going down in corporate history as an example of what not to do from a pr/communications perspective when you have an acquisition on the line.
 
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Flutta said:
Is there a reason why Sony ain't doing the "media rounds" like what MS is doing?

I know that Sony likes to keep quite on things regarding their business dealings etc but in this case i believe they shouldn't let MS be the only voice speaking out, a little bit of biting back in a sense wouldn't hurt? Or would it?

Just a throught 😅
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Sony's public response would just be crying how much they depend on Call of Duty (they dont).

their strategy is get Jim's UK friends to block it as a favor. The problem for that is, xbox is being overwhelmingly generous with remedies across the industry. Even if its blocked by the CMA, xbox will counter it, then they will win.

CMA's call for structural remedies is extreme, Activision will never sell off call of duty. Good thing the CMA is not demanding that, but only suggesting it.
 
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Gobjuduck said:
Sony's public response would just be crying how much they depend on Call of Duty (they dont).

their strategy is get Jim's UK friends to block it as a favor. The problem for that is, xbox is being overwhelmingly generous with remedies across the industry. Even if its blocked by the CMA, xbox will counter it, then they will win.

CMA's call for structural remedies is extreme, Activision will never sell off call of duty. Good thing the CMA is not demanding that, but only suggesting it.
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Parody account anyone?
 
Gobjuduck said:
Sony's public response would just be crying how much they depend on Call of Duty (they dont).

their strategy is get Jim's UK friends to block it as a favor. The problem for that is, xbox is being overwhelmingly generous with remedies across the industry. Even if its blocked by the CMA, xbox will counter it, then they will win.

CMA's call for structural remedies is extreme, Activision will never sell off call of duty. Good thing the CMA is not demanding that, but only suggesting it.
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Good news then! It's not up to Activision to sell off CoD. It's part of the acquisition to have another company set up to acquire it if it is divested.
 
BeardGawd said:
Mykhailo in that very thread is a Ukraine Government official.

To try and twist a positive that even official Ukraine Government officials recognize is a new low.

This helps Ukraine whether you like it or not.
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Do you know what's really tasteful and class? Doing something good, and not advertising it.
 
GHG said:
Now that them being headquartered in Ukraine along with "it's not politically motivated" have both been debunked, that's all that's left.
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Not yet. Soon they'll be saying that Sony paid them to pretend to be Ukrainian and then seek a deal to embarrass MS. It was a Sony false flag operation all along!
 
Flutta said:
True but it has become a MS vs Sony thing in the media. Wouldn't you agree? That's what i was referring too.
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Yeah, but Sony really sucks at PR and they don't have the experience having to deal with governments like Microsoft does. I think they would probably do themselves more harm than good.
 
Flutta said:
True but it has become a MS vs Sony thing in the media. Wouldn't you agree? That's what i was referring too.
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So what? Which media, the regressive games media or actual media. Actual media isn't really making it that issue.

Sony speaks up when they're obligated or feel they need to correct MS speaking for them.

Every issue the CMA or FTC has raised, was before they even asked Sony, nVidia's, etc, input. Then speaking up playing the PR console war game won't change a thing in the grand scheme of things.
 
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Varteras said:
The acquisitions have definitely put Sony in a certain mode, that's for sure. Prior to 2021, they had purchased 11 studios over the course of more than 25 years. In just two years (2021/2022) they've picked up 8 of them. Up to 9 if you include Fabrik being bought as a subsidiary by Firesprite. They also own 5% of Epic Games and 14% of FromSoft. They're certainly not sitting still. They're trying to secure their future output and make sure, as much as possible, that they're prepared to weather some kind of content storm.



Aww! Look! It's a little upside down hea... wait a minute... :messenger_hushed:
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Past 4 years have been good for Sony financially and now they're looking for growth. Kaz got Sony to a stable position where the company has become a cash-cow across all divisions. The next phase for Sony is growth. Gaming and content IPs are where they can grow.
 
Flutta said:
Is there a reason why Sony ain't doing the "media rounds" like what MS is doing?

I know that Sony likes to keep quite on things regarding their business dealings etc but in this case i believe they shouldn't let MS be the only voice speaking out, a little bit of biting back in a sense wouldn't hurt? Or would it?

Just a throught 😅
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They're a Japanese company at heart. Their business culture actually has taste and public restraint. Same with their mainstream culture, especially compared to America's.

They save the flashiness for weekend drinks at cafes and golfing courses.

They haven't let trashy reality shows and politics take them over.

If you still can't figure it out I can't help you.
 
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