Microsoft / Activision Deal Approval Watch |OT| (MS/ABK close)
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Thirty7ven
Banned
The funny thing is that these indie devs are embarrassingly ignorant. What do they think will happen to their games once MS has their way and GP is filled with big name IPs?
Fucking idiots.
Fucking idiots.
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Lol Microsoft will still make lots of deals with indies to fill out Gamepass. You mean 1 big IP after diablo 4 there is squat from abk for consoles outside COD anytime soon. Just because indies see what a sony home console monopoly would mean to them but you guys know better lol.
fred420170
Member
That was one of Sony's lamest excuses not to hand over documents... You can paste a document and have it translated in 2 seconds. hell, you could probably just paste it into chatGPT and it would correct the formatting for you lol
Man I try wording things in the nicest way possible a somehow, someway, hurt butts occur. I didn't realize this was era your acting like I called you out your name calm down.
Also I did point it out, it's the edu edition, it's not vanilla Minecraft. It's as simple as that. The keyword of the day is bedrock edition. Weird I even have to explain that.
fred420170
Member
Nothing. MS historically supports indie devs better than anywhere else w/ ID@xbox helping get their games published etc and have been doing so since the 360 era.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
What a retard.
reinking
Gold Member
Sony's need for CoD is hardly proof that it makes no sense for MS to remove CoD from PlayStation. That is precisely what the CMA is worried about. Removing access would cause great harm to MS's greatest competition allowing MS to gain an unfair advantage in the marketplace. This isn't about boohoo Sony is the market leader. This is about a very wealthy company being able to use its economic power to shape a market and gain an advantage that others can't. Including the current market leader. That is what many fail to understand. The fact that Sony is the market leader and MS, in one transaction, can put them at such a disadvantage. It should be alarming to anyone that cares about the overall market and not a plastic box.
Thirty7ven
Banned
digoutyoursoul
Member
I despise corporate arse lickers. Microsoft, Sony, anyone.
Topher
Identifies as young
Makes Microsoft's excuses look even worse, doesn't it?
jm89
Member
Don't forget this in your history lesson
https://www.gamesindustry.biz/shutting-out-the-indies-is-a-big-mistake-for-xbox-one
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
That's a decade old article, the state of Xbox support for Indies is not like that anymore, not even close, we all know this.
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jm89
Member
Did you read the comment i was repying to?
GHG
Gold Member
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Thirty7ven
Banned
Yeah it got better once HW sales started to lag behind PS4 hard.
You're either here posting because you know the history of the industry, the how and the why, or you're just a fangirl shit posting.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Ok, I only replied to the post in a vacuum, didn't see the 360 part.
And indies greatly benefited from it and are continuing to do so.
Kilau
Member
Those auto translation programs are not perfect and would probably cause issues in a legal environment.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
When the lust to defend your obsessed over brand...
Topher
Identifies as young
So Sony should just send 2.1 million documents to Microsoft. Doesn't matter if they are in Japanese. Could be all Haiku poetry. Just as long as they send 2.1 million documents.....
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
.... is suppressed by the lust to strike down your hated one ?
That's where you were going with that right ?
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Nope. You're just a lustful one..... is suppressed by the lust to strike down your hated one ?
That's where you were going with that right ?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Sending many docsSo Sony should just send 2.1 million documents to Microsoft. Doesn't matter if they are in Japanese. Could be all Haiku poetry. Just as long as they send 2.1 million documents.....
Watchful eyes the FTC
Just learn Japanese
They already told you what they thought would happen... increased xbox sales and even more money for themselves because of it.
If you think a google translate is enough for legal documents I don't know what to tell you. It can land you in legal trouble and a human that's a lawyer needs to do it.
Topher
Identifies as young
Well done. Now just copy and paste 2.1 million times.....
nikolino840
Member
So the american division don't know some decisions taken by sony japan?So Sony should just send 2.1 million documents to Microsoft. Doesn't matter if they are in Japanese. Could be all Haiku poetry. Just as long as they send 2.1 million documents.....
Topher
Identifies as young
Huh? Not sure what you mean. My point was that this Destin guy is making this all about the number of documents. What is in the documents seem to be irrelevant to him.
Idk why people overlook the tencent thing. Activision wants to sell, there's a short list of companies capable of buying them.
We shouldn't even need to talk about China and it's role inside every corporation in its grasp.
drganon
Member
We already know it's the latter.
nikolino840
Member
In the sense that there are documents that never arrived in PlayStation America, that no one Jim Ryan and previous CEO knows what decisions they contain.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
We should stop giving people like Destin and Jez more airtime, they're just twitter randos at best.
kuncol02
Banned
I'm like 90% sure that's Matthew White or Iain Garner. Both were talking about issues with how Sony treats indie devs for years.
Topher
Identifies as young
Varteras
Member
Get her now.
Any opportunity to repost this is a welcome one.
Because soon enough...
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
So does it mean that if the ABK acquisition is blocked, and Xbox console sales become even lower and lag behind PlayStation, it will be beneficial for indies?And indies greatly benefited from it and are continuing to do so.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Get her now.
Because soon enough...
The riper the berry, the sweeter the juice.
So does it mean that if the ABK acquisition is blocked, and Xbox console sales become even lower and lag behind PlayStation, it will be beneficial for indies?
As long as indies keep getting great deals and exposure, it's a great deal for them.
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Topher
Identifies as young
The riper the berry, the sweeter the juice.
There is ripe and then there is rotten.
Sony
Nintendo
I mean, you've said it yourself: they're big name IP's. If it's big name IP's, then it won't do much for the discovereability of indy games because well... you don't have to market big IP's as much. The praise indies are giving Microsoft is the discovereability of their games on their online store.
They're in a much better position to assess the merger on their business. It's quite some arrogance to call them 'fucking idiots' over it.
Sony has no case other that 'it will cost us the sweet profit we're making on our 70$ games'. Get over it, it's a good deal for everyone involved and the only one that opposes it from te published documents is Sony. Surprise surprise.
ChuckeRearmed
Member
"We can't use ChatGPT because it favors Microsoft" Jim Ryan
BeardSpike
Member
It will stay multi platform for sure, just like Starfield.
Anyways, I don't care. COD is trash now, I payed for the game on PS5. Content dripping is actually exhausting. MWII is nowhere near what COD was with MW2019. And they have the audacity to announce "new" maps which were supposed to be at launch, still no 2vs2. And I've read rumours about payed premium DLC.
I'm actually more curious what Sony x Deviation Games with OG Black Ops devs are cooking. Socom? If the deal will go through maybe we will see some new IP and with PC porting studio Sony have it could be released on PC and PS5. It would force Sony to compete.
But dunno if this will be good for industry at all.
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SoloKingRobert
Banned
Microsoft usually pays Indie Devs the entire development cost to release their games on Game Pass, while their games are being sold on PlayStation, Xbox and PC. Extra Revenue.
Topher
Identifies as young
Well.....yeah. Sony doesn't want to make less money so they are opposed to this deal. If it were the other way around, Microsoft would be against it as well. Why would either just "get over it"? Are the company CEOs supposed to go to their stockholders and explain that they are not going to make as much money as they used to and they should "get over it"? That CEO might as well pack their office. The document above from the dev clearly says that they want Xbox to have more market share so they can make more money. Microsoft stands to make more money from their $70 games as well. Money is the motivation all around here.
Plenty of those games are timed exclusives on Game Pass.
The idea is that MS are relying on indies to fill out their portfolio, but once this portfolio gets a steady stream of first party content that's more popular and more profitable they're less likely to give indies coverage/exposure or moneyhats.
Bumblebeetuna
Member
It's weird seeing people so against the deal and claiming Sony has such a good case when it literally is just "we make lots of money off of this one game that we don't even create or own, please don't take it away. yes I know MS doesn't want to take it away but please! yes I know there is a ten year offer on the table but please! yes I know we just spent billions on one developer who makes a CoD type game but please!"
Sony
Nintendo
I understand the idea. I don't understand how forum dwellers can claim they understand the impact better than the indies themselves.
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