ChorizoPicozo
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well, there you go. "code to metal" enables to squeeze the maximum performance of consoles. is not feasible to use windows for a console OS.
just see MS/Xbox itself struggling with that.
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just see MS/Xbox itself struggling with that.
clarky
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What makes those any different than MS? The arguments against MS buying it mostly applies to all the other corporations as well as far as im aware.
3liteDragon
Member
idk what happened to Jimbo's clone but Ezekiel got banned for off-topic drama most likely.
Punished Miku
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He died doing what he loved, laugh emojis.
Kilau
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ChorizoPicozo
Member
wat? does he even makes comments? i thought he only made emojis.
In Cold Blood
Banned
Street Beef? I never used that term at all.
I said revenge, which was probably the wrong word to use. My point was that MS don't owe Sony anything, and infact they are returning serve in the acquisition of exclusive and or valuable IPs.
Let's be honest here, the only reason that the CMA has kicked up is because Sony protested so hard and fed them talking points and what they thought should be the outcome. I get you are a Sony guy, but don't just believe that Sony hasn't played a big role in all of this.
I'm not even saying they shouldn't protect their interests, they are doing what they believe they need to do, however, it's then fine for others to point at their rampant hypocrisy with regards to exclusives. I mean, they are there saying how MS could give the Xbox version more content or exclusive extras which could drive people to buy an xbox, and how unfair that would be, all while they have paid for exclusive content that the Xbox version doesn't have, which they hope drives people to buy a PS over an Xbox.
Even you would have to sit back and laugh at that.
Topher
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Staff seems to give a lot more leniency towards gaming transgressions than otherwise. To me, it makes sense. This is a gaming forum. Take other issues elsewhere.
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Hoddi
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Ezekiel has been trolling Xbox users for a while. He just did it through emojis which is technically not against the rules but he's probably been on the watchlist until he made a misstep.
Jim Ryan's other clone was pushing Russian propaganda in the Ukraine war thread. How everyone is brainwashed except him etc. Just the standard stuff where CNN and Fox are the only news channels on the planet, basically.
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Killing competition from 3rd place, right. And it's not even a close 3rd place.
Topher
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Stop making me laugh, asshole.
bender
What time is it?
IFireflyl
Gold Member
Thanks for the response!
Kilau
Member
What acquisition of valuable IPs from Sony is MS reacting to?
Drell
Member
Whatever your place is, when you have an infinite warchest, that you begin to use to massively buy publishers left and right, and that the next one is the biggest of all of them, your place in that race has no meaning at all.
The Pleasure
Gold Member
Yes, I want an extra 200 dollars slapped to my console for windows ce at the time. Fuck outta here with that garbage.
3liteDragon
Member
I was referring to this post in another thread, you were still talking about the acquisition regardless.
The CMA has valid points as to why they're concerned with this deal, first it was Bethesda & now this. They're buying up large publishers using that Office money (cause we both know the Xbox division can't afford this buyout without Microsoft) & permanently taking off established IPs from PlayStation in the name of "competing" with the main goal of severely damaging their market share instead of actually trying to compete with them with games, barely any effort's being put into that. They're so incompetent with the studios they currently have & yet they have the gall to suggest that 10 years should be enough for Sony to come up with an alternative to CoD, if it's so easy then why haven't they done it? Why pay $69 billion for an IP they seem to think (according to regulatory filings) isn't even a big deal? Permanent foreclosure, which is why I hope this gets blocked & I still think the CMA will block it in the end after seeing Microsoft's response to their findings.
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In Cold Blood
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They have purchased plenty of exclusive IPs for the PS. It doesn't have to be buying the company, they can acquire the content through third party exclusives.
Let's see, Final Fantasy is a pretty big IP. Silent Hill is a pretty big IP. So is Street Fighter 5, KOTR and Destiny.
Exclusives content has always been a thing for consoles.
I want more exclusive content not less. I would be happy to see Sony buy Square, Ubisoft, whatever.
It wouldn't bother me in the slightest. Unlike many here, I will buy a PS5 and own both consolew, and I will buy all of the exclusive games that are on those consoles. I'm not hard up for money. I can afford to do it.
It's the hypocrisy that irks me.
Well, if you're going to make a comment about "killing the competition" then the competition does matter.
Drell
Member
Yes and it's fine as it is.
Kilau
Member
Right. So they didn't acquire any of those IPs. 3rd party exclusivity deals are not the same as buying the IP. MS certainly had the money to pursue those deals and has in the past.
The only IP Sony bought that MS could have possibly been "returning serve" on is the stuff Insomniac brought with them. They did later buy Destiny, through Bungie, but that happened after the ABK deal was made.
ulantan
Member
You know sony don't own any of those right
It'll be more competitive after the acquisition.
Drell
Member
Thank you for your opinion.
I would guess it was the Justin Roiland drama thread and his infamous laugh emoji in it that got him banned.
same
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Holy shit ezekiel got permed ? what the fuck did I miss ...
HoofHearted
Member
Good thing in this case there's no contradiction. They've released Bethesda games post purchase on competing platforms. And have kept some exclusive.
Nobody's arguing that. All existing games have been kept in place, so why would 'case-by-case' apply?
Facts say otherwise, though.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
I wonder if it was requested.
The governing bodies, that are questioning Microsoft seem to be worried, about Sony and the short to mid term. But what about log term? Do you guys believe that Microsoft Monopolizing the market could one day crash the market or severely hurt it? I mean... That haven't had a good track record with the IPs that hey have bought so far.
Lets say Microsoft did own, square, AB, ect ect.. There is no guarantee that these Ips will be properly managed. Am I going to far or does anyone else see a problem.
Lets say Microsoft did own, square, AB, ect ect.. There is no guarantee that these Ips will be properly managed. Am I going to far or does anyone else see a problem.
Rubim
Member
I don't post much here.
But are you an actual retarded? VR is not for everyone, some games works, most don't.
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
There is. Of course, XboxGAF is going to damage control everything that he says. lol
Case-by-case was in reference to FUTURE games.
We're seeing all Zenimax games going exclusive and you think they're going case-by-case aka, 1 by 1 and considering if they should keep it exclusive or multiplatform.
Mibu no ookami
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I hate when people just post GIF reactions to posts, but you've left me speechless:
You and
Rivet
still laughing when Microsoft mentioned Digital Foundry specifically in their supplementary? Imagine being so wrong and not realizing it..
ChorizoPicozo
Member
maybe DooM, wolfestain, Fallout, Rage, or any other Old IP with presence on PlayStation.
son far Hi-Fi, Starfield, Redfall are new Ips.
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
They stopped Redfall and Starfield from appearing on PlayStation because they were new IPs, but they're going to release Doom, Fallout on PS because they're existing franchises.......
.........This makes no sense. lol
Man says something and does the thing. Where's the 'damage'?
Yes. Pretty much what I said. Why would you claim anyone's been arguing that 'case-by-case' referred to old games when it's clearly about future games?
Microsoft released Quake Remastered on all platforms well after the acquisition. So no, not all games have gone exclusive.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
this is why MS has to show the documents regarding future exclusivity plans right?
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
What you and Xbox guys always do whenever people out out Phil's lies.
Because Xbox fans have been saying it.
Because it was right after the acquisition was complete.
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
Phil spoke about it right after the acquisition was complete. He talked about needing to fulfill obligations to EXISTING games due to contracts and then he goes into future games and their exclusivity.
The case-by-case was bullshit and it shouldn't be that hard for anyone to see it.
MS has to show documents about the 10 year contracts they're handing out.
Sleepwalker
Member
Nooo the emoji guy got permed? I used him as a compass to see if I was being too anti/pro ms/sony with my posts
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
The acquisition closed in March, Quake Remastered was released in August. That's not right after.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
Deathloop was released in September... That should tell you they were under contract.
TheGodfather07
Member
right now i would say the chances of the CMA approving are very low. microsoft havent resolved the concerns of foreclosure and that happening in 10 years makes no difference. call of duty could be even bigger by then and that gives microsoft a massive anti competitive advantage to remove call of duty from all rivals in every space, reduce competition and consumer choice as a result. none of this has been resolved with microsofts offered concessions. like the CMA said, you can have the other activision ip but not call of duty. its too big and influential.
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DForce
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And this is why the FTC and CMA don't believe they have plans to keep COD long term on PS.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Deathloop was a known quantity for 2+ years before it released, Quake Remastered was essentially shadow dropped at Quakecon in 2021. There was absolutely no prior notice or obligation that it would be launching on multiple platforms.
It very much comes under the case-by-case basis argument.
Microsoft will keep that commitment, Spencer said in an interview. Future games, like Starfield, will be available for Xbox, PC and Microsoft's Game Pass video-game service. "We'll take other consoles on a case-by-case basis," Spencer said.
They're doing what they said. No need to get salty with "xbox fans" this and "xbox gaf" that. Chill.
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In Cold Blood
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Come on, don't try and make out Sony didn't feed the CMA all those concerns. Sony did the exact same thing to Brazil, the FTC and the EU. The CMA has demonstrated they know very little about the gaming industry and almost followed Sony's submission to a tee.
I'm not sure why you don't want to admit that Sony played a big hand in it.
Not all regulators have said the same thing as the CMA. The Brazilian regulator said that its not the role of a regulator to protect the interests of the dominate player in a market.
Sony has no moral high ground with taking content away from other platforms.
It's been said 1000 times and if you don't understand that now then you never will.
The issue with alot of Sony players is that until now you had everything going your way. The line share of top exclusives. Sony had the more higher rated first party studios. More consoles sold.
It gave them a opportunity to shit on MS with the usual cries of "xbox has no games" "MS wont use Office money to prop up Xbox" "If you want to play a Sony exclusive game, buy a Playstation" and so on.
That's no longer the case anymore.
Now we seen a change in the anti xbox cries to "Phil lied to us about Starfield" "MS should look after their own first party studios before they buy anymore" "MS is going to be a gaming monopoly and needs to be stopped" "Sony hasn't bought a publisher like MS is doing" "Bungie isn't really a publisher and Psygonois was decades ago so doesn't count".
The gaming landscape has changed. It changed when Sega pulled out of the console buisness. It changed when Nintendo decided they wernt going to put out a direct opposition console to PS anymore. It changed when Xbox came into the market. It changed when Sony entered the market. Change always happens.
It's changed again. MS is a big deal in gaming now. Even if ABK goes through, MS is going to grow even more with further acquisitions.
It doesn't matter if people don't like it.
MS doesn't care if you think they should have set up new studios instead of buying existing ones. MS doesn't care about stupid little rules fanboys put out there like "you shouldn't be allowed to buy publsihers", all while forgetting that Sony bought publishers when Sega couldn't afford to buy them.
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
Deadloop was delayed.
Sony knows which games are going to be released on their platform. There are agreements in place prior to games releasing.
You guys need to just stop. lol.
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