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[FBeeEye]

Now it's up to Microsoft to stay true to their word.

It's up to Sony to sign the deal.

 

[Dick Jones]

That’d look great for when they’re next under regulatory scrutiny

I'm sure they will say "no financial incentive to foreclose Playstation". It worked like a charm twice so third time lucky

 

[Topher]

It's up to Sony to sign the deal.

Not really. Phil Spencer said multiple times publicly that they were not taking COD from PlayStation.

 

[xHunter]

So are the floodgates now open for other publishers to be bought? Seems like its a go for Amazon/Apple/Tencent to go for the big guys.

 

[jm89]

I haven't read the docs, what's the conclusion regarding the cloud SLC?

 

[gothmog]

It's up to Sony to sign the deal.

Why?

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Just like Minecraft. Doesn't make any sense to do it any other way. Said this on day 1.

it makes sense. but at a high cost.

 

[Lasha]

Why?

Sony doesn't own COD.

 

[ANDS]

Great news but fuck sony if i dont get diablo 4 on gamepass day 1.

Game isn't and hasn't been coming to GP since last year; this has been known. And I doubt this deal closes before then anyway as what a UK regulatory body does is unlikely to sway what a US (and elsewhere) body does.

But the creative director of redfall said that the game was originally gonna be on playstation, that was our smoking gun guys!!! /s

Smoking gun for what? What does this news change about what you are referencing?

Not gonna say I told you so, because I am an adult. But I will be here for all the back pedaling and meltdowns lol. Man this site is about to become a fucking war-zone.

. . .there's always a battlefield to fight (and die) on isn't there?

 

[OverHeat]

Phil keep on winning!

 

[BennyBlanco]

i never doubted MS army of lawyers for a second. console market will be really interesting in 2032.

 

[gothmog]

Sony doesn't own COD.

And Microsoft said they have no incentive to foreclose. Valve didn't sign an agreement because they felt it was unnecessary. Sony might sign it or they might take that stance. Not sure why it matters if we're all going to take Microsoft on their word anyways.

 

[ulantan]

Sony doesn't own COD.

But Phil's intention is to keep cod on PlayStation then you don't need to sign a deal

 

[GHG]

You should reach out to the CMA, tell them to read your previous posts in this thread where you've already explained all of that, and say they're arguing in bad faith because they didn't agree with your conclusions.

As usual, you should try reading the documents provided. The only thing that's changed is their final conclusion, pretty much everything else remains the same.

Unless you're going to tell me all the contracts and offers that Microsoft have been handing out have all been for nothing? Maybe they should take all of them off the table, let's see how that would turn out.

 

[Dick Jones]

Not necessary. Considering the situation between PS4 and Xbox One, it was possible that there were not contract but Sony asked for some parity or whatever. You have to keep in mind that PS4 had old version of Minecraft for quite some time and even got PSVR version. But anyway, Minecraft - just like TESO for example - was updated and supported for years. It is pretty plausible that Microsoft decided to keep Minecraft multiplatform by themselves (and it paid off with it becoming that huge at this point).

Anyway, CMA concluded that nothing of it is important anyway.

If Notch signed a contract saying it must be on all systems with a certain market % for the next ten years or he gets and additional payment, then MS may think it better to follow the deal.

Notch wasn't smart enough to have a clause to keep his name on the game

 

[HoofHearted]

 

[Heisenberg007]

MS called them on the divestment being absurd. Then the CMA was like ... "ah man, the dog ate my homework. I was kidding. "

Did the calculations wrong? You guys believe this?

They didn't want to fine MS $3 billion on shaky footing after getting called on it.

It is not just that, however.

Calculations are one thing. But they also changed their stance 180 on several other things. For example:

FROM THIS REVISED DOC.

FROM THEIR PROVISIONAL FINDINGS.

This is a suspiciously bad 180.

And there are several other examples of this u-turn (beyond just calculation) in these docs now.

 

[suspicious mind]

Not happening anytime soon it seems. Coming from someone who bought the Ultimate Edition, it sucks.

https://www.gameinformer.com/2023/03/14/there-are-no-plans-for-diablo-4-on-game-pass

Yeh but didnt he say that because of the incertainty of the deal going through?
But i guess june is to soon to get it it all done and worked out so you re probably right.
I ll buy it then.

 

[vaibhavpisal]

Just get it over with so I don't have to hear about it ever again.... EVER ....

 

[feynoob]

I find it bizarre that any regulator would suddenly trust them on their word considering their history, both recent and more distant, but the U-turn on their conclusion has been so sudden and abrupt that it suggests something has happened behind the scenes to cause it.

 

[Punished Miku]

But Phil's intention is to keep cod on PlayStation then you don't need to sign a deal

As Phil and Gabe said months ago. Exactly.

 

[Lasha]

And Microsoft said they have no incentive to foreclose. Valve didn't sign an agreement because they felt it was unnecessary. Sony might sign it or they might take that stance. Not sure why it matters if we're all going to take Microsoft on their word anyways.

I'm just saying that's why its up to Sony to sign any deal. Sony has no recourse if it rejects a deal with Microsoft and Microsoft decides to later change its release strategy.

 

[Spyxos]

So it is over?

 

[GHG]

It's up to Sony to sign the deal.

In accordance with everything they've been saying up to this point there should be no reason to Sony to have to sign any deal in order for COD to remain on playstation, gabe newell decided against signing anything and is confident future COD titles will continue to come to Steam.

 

[skit_data]

I'm sure they will say "no financial incentive to foreclose Playstation". It worked like a charm twice so third time lucky

As the old saying goes
”Fool me once, shame on Phil Spencer
Fool me twice, shame on Jim Ryan”

 

[feynoob]

It is not just that, however.

Calculations are one thing. But they also changed their stance 180 on several other things. For example:

FROM THIS REVISED DOC.

FROM THEIR PROVISIONAL FINDINGS.

This is a suspiciously bad 180.

And there are several other examples of this u-turn (beyond just calculation) in these docs now.

Because regulators are dumb as fuck.

We are giving them too much credits, when they are incompetent as fuck.l

 

[Lasha]

But Phil's intention is to keep cod on PlayStation then you don't need to sign a deal

If Sony trusts Microsoft then sure. Sony would be kind of stupid not to get some kind of deal on paper to protect what is a large portion of revenue.

 

[ZehDon]

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

Notch wasn't smart enough to have a clause to keep his name on the game

Well, in the first place Mojang was sold due to backlash Notch go, wasn't it?

 

[BennyBlanco]

Just a hunch but I suspect the CMA saw me buy Diablo 4 on Battlenet and decided to give MS the greenlight so they can release it on Steam and make me buy it twice

 

[ulantan]

I'm just saying that's why its up to Sony to sign any deal. Sony has no recourse if it rejects a deal with Microsoft and Microsoft decides to later change its release strategy.

Except Microsoft swore before God, Jesus, and the government that they would never take it off playstation it would cripple them in the eyes of regulators especially since they want to acquire more publishers.

 

[adamsapple]

So we thinking this is closing in time for Diablo 4 to become a day 1 Game Pass game, or nah ?

 

[Heisenberg007]

So we thinking this is closing in time for Diablo 4 to become a day 1 Game Pass game, or nah ?

If MS is willing to close before FTC's court case, then yes.

 

[Dane]

Lol, did anyone believe that Microsoft would divest, let alone, have not this going through? The CMA was trying to make an example out of it only to be flattered with evidences that they couldn't ignore for long and their own mistakes being reported meant that they knew MS had a huge case to CAT to overturn CMA and rule over it as a rare instance. EU which is regarded as much more strict and where King is located (Sweden) was way more grounded and realistic.

There's a reason why Disney-Fox and Amazon-MGM are regarded as examples into why it would pass with few to no concessions. Its an entertainment business, not regarded as security concern, with a massive concentration and still had their way to get it through, Disney divestment of Fox Sports was already planned from the day 1 talks.

 

[draliko]

So we thinking this is closing in time for Diablo 4 to become a day 1 Game Pass game, or nah ?

na, not on d1, probably around christmas, still d4 is a day1 purchase as every diablo game

 

[suspicious mind]

Common sense won luckily. Glad the CMA came to their senses because they were talking nonsense for months.

 

[Calverz]

 

[GHG]

If Sony trusts Microsoft then sure. Sony would be kind of stupid not to get some kind of deal on paper to protect what is a large portion of revenue.

If I were them I just let it play out without a contract.

If Microsoft decide to remove it then so be it. Good luck trying to get future acquisitions of this size through. Plus, let's be real, Microsoft will be managing the IP going forwards, so unless there's a change in management, I give it 3 iterations before they Halo Infinite the franchise.

 

[Topher]

Lol, did anyone believe that Microsoft would divest, let alone, have not this going through? The CMA was trying to make an example out of it only to be flattered with evidences that they couldn't ignore for long and their own mistakes being reported meant that they knew MS had a huge case to CAT to overturn CMA and rule over it as a rare instance. EU which is regarded as much more strict and where King is located (Sweden) was way more grounded and realistic.

There's a reason why Disney-Fox and Amazon-MGM are regarded as examples into why it would pass with few to no concessions. Its an entertainment business, not regarded as security concern, with a massive concentration and still had their way to get it through, Disney divestment of Fox Sports was already planned from the day 1 talks.

There was divesture required for Disney-Fox beyond just Fox sports

Acquisition of 21st Century Fox by Disney - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[IFireflyl]

Ghostwire Tokyo
Deathloop
HiFi Rush

Starfield and Redfall are imminent, as is a major ESO expansion.

So all the games they were working on prior to acquisition. Astonishing.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Fuck me! it's a done deal.

Did not expect this at all.

Well, hats off to them for doing a great job and actually thoroughly checking all the evidence.

Someone, check on Jim Ryan....

 

[Dick Jones]

Well, in the first place Mojang was sold due to backlash Notch go, wasn't it?

MS backed up the Brinks truck. Notch didn't have the backlash at that time. His name was removed a few years later for public comments that Mojang distanced themselves from and took him name as creator off then.

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

So we thinking this is closing in time for Diablo 4 to become a day 1 Game Pass game, or nah ?

Depends on when CMA and EU finalize the deal. I believe Microsoft said that they would close the deal regardless of FTC.

The question I have though is - considering how regulators were concerned about cloud and Microsoft, wouldn't it be funny if Sony is forced to release the games on PC and other BYOG providers day 1 if they were to acquire any publisher? Because Microsoft would do that anyway now.

 

[Punished Miku]

So we thinking this is closing in time for Diablo 4 to become a day 1 Game Pass game, or nah ?

Wolverine Origins on GP maybe!? The CMA missed it this whole time.

 

[AV]

No shit.

Let's hurry up and close this deal so we can all stop talking about it and get Actiblizz stuff on Game Pass.

 

[aries_71]

Lol, did anyone believe that Microsoft would divest, let alone, have not this going through?

Basically only 99% of the habitual posters in this thread. In a way, I feel somewhat sorry for them because they did show great faith and were true believers. Now is time to pick up the pieces of this community and steer debate to more positive things.

 

[Lasha]

Except Microsoft swore before God, Jesus, and the government that they would never take it off playstation it would cripple them in the eyes of regulators especially since they want to acquire more publishers.

I don't think you fully grasp the concept of ownership. Sony has no rights to CoD unless it produces CoD. Sony needs to sign a deal with the owner of CoD if it wants a legal guarantee of feature parity and releases. Say the deal falls through and Microsoft agreed to an exclusivity deal with Activision (insane but possible). Sony would have no recourse. Thats why its in Sony's best interest to strike a deal. Especially given its heavy reliance on third party sales.

 

[Snake29]

The worst console company, which can't even compete with what they have, the company that was sleeping for a whole gen and was now crying about how better their competitor was.

Lol nothing quality or game wise is gonna change with ABK. So they will search for more for their "fake compete".

 

[Punished Miku]

The worst console company, which can't even compete with what they have, the company that was sleeping for a whole gen and was now crying about how better their competitor was.

Lol nothing quality or game wise is gonna change with ABK. So they will search for more for their "fake compete".

Best case scenario is they allow some small Pentiment sized side projects from the Call of Duty lifers. Blizzard will likely also thrive under MS. They have cRPG and SRPG roots that were all but abandoned. Everything else will likely stay exactly the same.

 

[Topher]

Basically only 99% of the habitual posters in this thread. In a way, I feel somewhat sorry for them because they did show great faith and were true believers. Now is time to pick up the pieces of this community and steer debate to more positive things.

Someone hasn't paid any attention to the poll results it seems.