Microsoft / Activision Deal Approval Watch |OT| (MS/ABK close)
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Dick Jones
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Of all the arguments, SE explained that the reason FFXVI will be out as quick is due to Sony's support and the 6 month exclusive didn't even need to be there as they are behind with the PC version and don't expect it completed by the end of the timed exclusive period. Surely they have better picks, Superman maybe?
Topher
Identifies as young
Oh damn I'm late to the party
lol news to me, I got a late start to my day
lol.......I hear ya. Lot of shit went down since then.
I don't think stellar blade is AAA. We'd be lucky if SH2 is.
I don't think people saying they want games wanted games they were already getting but now not coming to another platform.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
They don't have to sign the PR posturing. MS told the CMA they won't remove CoD because it will cost them too much money to do so. Phil Spencer said "as long as there is PlayStation, CoD will be on it," So normal deals shall resume as usual.
Who to believe, who to believe.
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sainraja
Member
That and how it made them feel about Xbox "supposedly" being smaller. I mean, how are they small when a company like MS is behind them?
MS competed just fine with the X360. What stopped?
Sure, I get why MS is doing this. It is business after all but reading some of the arguments being made in favor of it...it's just, just odd.
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Banjo64
cumsessed
He's been better at his job than anyone in Microsoft's gaming division over the past decade. All its take is for Egg to side with the money. I've heard people touting Sarah Bond as Phil's successor. Laughable. If Kotick was an option and they overlook him for yet another journeyman, they'll be giving themselves the bullet.
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Nintendo
The contract Microsoft offered to Sony was a parity contract, including content. Meaning that Microsoft couldn't do exclusive DLC for CoD on Xbox. If a contract like that isn't needed anymore, then MS can do exclusive content. So it's a pretty big deal. Let's see what Microsoft does with the 10 year deal now it isn't strictly necessary for CMA.
Kilau
Member
Oh hi Shark
sainraja
Member
That is possible, or MS could just charge more for that and have Sony turn it down basically.
Topher
Identifies as young
Phil Spencer already publicly promised Call of Duty would be on PlayStation as long as PlayStation exists. He also said there would be no exclusive COD content for Xbox.
TheGodfather07
Member
sony right now.
sainraja
Member
So all he has to do now is make sure there is no PlayStation to put COD onto...
I'm just kidding but the way it was worded almost seemed like a sneaky threat.
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reinking
Gold Member
It will not be for Phil to decide. Last I head Spencer is out and Kotick is going to be in.
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Do you think that Sony seriously trusts that stuff?
If the deal is closed without regulators requiring and enforcing COD on Playstation with parity, Microsoft will be able to whatever they want after current contracts.
The only problem for them would be creating the legal precedent of a company fooling and lying to regulators but they could still defend themselves by stating that it was the regulators' decision to drop console market concerns so why should they care?
Now I don't know what cards the Sony's legal team have left and I don't know their real goals and what they really expected out of this legal opposition...but trusting Phil and crew? Emmm no.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
But Phil said!
IFireflyl
Gold Member
It absolutely blows my mind that the primary focus around this deal has been Call of Duty. The cloud gaming aspect is the where the real bread-and-butter is, so to speak. That should have been the forefront of this entire thing from the beginning.
Iced Arcade
Member
Microsoft should give Sony its mascot back as a gesture of good faith.
Dick Jones
Banned
feynoob
Banned
Rac3r
Member
Agree, Kotick is undeniably the bigger asset and clearly Nadella doesn't care about the controversy surrounding him. Nadella has openly praised him while Phil has publicly scoffed at ABK's workplace toxicity. No way they both stay. Unless Kotick willingly retires, good chance Phil gets the boot.
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Topher
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sncvsrtoip
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Sony will be fine like Sega was, more mobile games, gaas, maybe nfts, bright future
Banjo64
cumsessed
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/10/20/damaged-undersea-cable-leaves-shetland-cut-mainland/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Nord_Stream_pipeline_sabotage
These weren't the work of the Kremlin or even:
No.
I've heard from a top source (who also advised me that the PS5 is actually an 8tf machine) that these incidents were actually the work of Microsoft.
Ordered directly by Egg in order to remind the UK and EU that he has the power to make them third world shit holes in the blink of an eye.
He was also about to order a Nimitz-class super carrier, had his mouse hovering over the shopping cart (only costs 40b MS Reward points), but then he got distracted reading a post by
SenjutsuSage
and by the time he'd finished reading he'd lost the will to live.
DeepEnigma
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feynoob
Banned
Someone fed them the wrong formula."Wrong math"
Whoever did that was smart, considering how dumg regulators are.
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Baki
Member
I think they will give Bobby the job. It's been enough time for the PR blow back and internal blow back to be minimal. Especially with tech jobs being in short supply these days.
You misunderstand. Kotick is a very savvy businessman and will most likely bring a killer instinct if he gets there, but He's got way too much baggage at this point.
They'll make a clean break with him at the next convenient point.
It's not like he hasn't had his missteps too, tbh.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
splattered
Member
Well i mean... it's a matter of parity. If Playstation wants exclusive perks for its fanbase then it's only fair that Xbox gets the same for its users. I more see this as a "Xbox won't have exclusive perks as long as Playstation doesn't" but i can't envision a world in which Sony doesn't have something like that in place, they LOVE it.
Sanepar
Member
They will not because if Sony doesn't Ms probably will buy them. MS will take all big publishers they can.
Banjo64
cumsessed
We'll see. I think they are more likely to get rid of him for the brownie points, but personally I separate the art from the artist so just hope they keep him in some capacity. If there's one thing Xbox need with all these studios, it is that killer instinct.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
She's compromised. HEAVILY compromised. Almost the textbook definition of a crooked politician.
That and she has no understanding of what she is speaking about.
Any PS owner who is aware of these proceedings that goes on to buy COD, when they can just play it for "free" in Game Pass, is quite literally, an idiotic paypig. And I mean that.
Microsoft is counting on them to offset any potential revenue losses of having a game like COD Day 1 in Game Pass. That's how such a strategy becomes feasible. So people on another platform buying the game are just enabling that strategy and are foolish enough to think their purchase in that situation stands for something honorable, when it's just helping the people on the service get that same content at a significantly lower cost.
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Punished Miku
Human Rights Subscription Service
I don't think Kotick is going to be kept. Studio managers are the assets, and the developers. MS has people to fill Kotick's role.
Kotick's big accomplishments are stumbling upon a hit with Call of Duty, and then forcing all studios to make that as fast as possible. The studio heads are the ones that get that done. That's the same strategy he used for Guitar Hero and Tony Hawk until the IP were milked to death.
He has business accomplishments for sure, including smart acquisitions with Blizzard and King. He also runs a tight ship in terms of firing staff, which is not something they need help with either. MS has execs. They need studio heads and developers.
TheGodfather07
Member
yeah. it would be defensive acquisitions to ensure PS still has 3rd party games but i feel they've already lost some of the biggest ones. elder scrolls, fallout, doom, call of duty. microsoft even own crash bandicoot!! this is embarassing for sony. what could they even do that would compare? GTA is the only thing left.
Topher
Identifies as young
Except Phil Spencer didn't put any parameters around anything he said. He used Hogwarts Legacy's exclusive PS content as an example and said they were not going to do that. Not "ifs ands or buts". Just "nope....not gonna".
I don't know, bro. Just going by what the man said.
Dick Jones
Banned
And Phil's word is his bond. He has never been economical with the truth
splattered
Member
Yeah but the scenario is that PS has the additional content and Xbox does not, doesn't mean both can't have their own mountain dew gun skins for their players.
Sony
Nintendo
Of course he said that, CMA was up his ass.
Topher
Identifies as young
I get what you are saying, but that sort of thing doesn't seem to fit his style.
So.....you think he was lying?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Sony
Nintendo
I'm saying he has no need for a contractual obligation to keep his promise now.
Topher
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Not keeping his promise is called lying, dude.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Down 1%, just like the rest of the tech markets. MSFT was down today too.Sony felt the blow, it doesn't even seem like it's the "exclusive company"
IFireflyl
Gold Member
Let's assume that everyone on ResetERA is a fucking retard.
With that in mind, is this actually stated inside of the CMA's responses? Not the "new math" part, but the part about CMA completely disregarding Microsoft and solely listening to Sony. Because if that's stated somewhere, then the CMA should be on a hot seat for not validating the information prior to right now.
From what little I saw on the CMA document (I've had a crazy day, so I haven't sunk my teeth into it yet), it seemed like the CMA said that Microsoft actually provided new figures. And that by itself blows my mind, because where the hell was that math when they first submitted their findings to the CMA?
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