Microsoft / Activision Deal Approval Watch |OT| (MS/ABK close)
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feynoob
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I am not comparing it to that. I am just saying taking specific content is much shittier than just normal timed exclusive.
Taking a certain content from live service is not a good thing, since it's important to have those content day1 in those games.
Destiny 1 is clear example of that.
Who says that it was ok?
feynoob
Banned
Good, you are showing why these stuff are not good for the industry.
Both MS and Sony are shit for doing that.
Nothing1234
Banned
It’s almost like it’s standard stuff.
aries_71
Junior Member
Boom!
Yoboman
Member
Is this whst the Japanese stuff was about today? Lol
Japan was always passing as Activision don't publish there
ChuckeRearmed
Member
Nothing unexpected. The picture is neat though.
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nah, that's (the JTFC and US senators) just boring posturing imo.
Yeah, this decision isn't surprising at all.
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Banjo64
cumsessed
Fuck da po-lice
Banjo64
cumsessed
Guess Japan didn’t want to become a third world shit hole.
RoboFu
One of the green rats
I just image a bunch of people playing their switches in room and one person looks up for a sec and says “ yeah whatever “ and then continues playing.
Varteras
Member
I would agree if Final Fantasy was underperforming. It's not. It's these other projects they just throw out there. The sales aren't meeting their expectations on any platform. So they need to figure that shit out. Don't spend as much money on them? Reduce the number of projects and focus your teams on more likely hits? Don't ever pull a Forspoken again? It just seems like for every game Square Enix nails they feel they need to match it with an equal disaster or two. I've said for a while now. That company needs a whole new management team.
Varteras
Member
I just image a bunch of people playing their switches in room and one person looks up for a sec and says “ yeah whatever “ and then continues playing.
"What's Call of Duty"?
"I think it's a body spray"
Nothing1234
Banned
Also, regarding the Call of Duty series, which is the globally popular game software of the Activision Group, there are many games that are more popular in Japan. For this reason, the company group's position in the business of developing and publishing games for game consoles is considered to have a limited impact on competition in the market for the multi-game subscription service business for game consoles. Therefore, even if the indirect network effect is taken into consideration, the company group concerned does not have the ability to implement the closure of inputs. Therefore, it is recognized that the closure of inputs will not cause the problem of market closure or exclusivity in the downstream market.I just image a bunch of people playing their switches in room and one person looks up for a sec and says “ yeah whatever “ and then continues playing.
Pretty much.
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feynoob
Banned
Does that mean MS can technically make COD exclusive in Japan?
Yoboman
Member
They already signed a Switch contract. Doubt it's market specific
MistBreeze
Member
About ActiBlizz deal…
I think these big publishers Activision - EA - ubisoft are failing or something
EA : battlefield flopped hard .. and ironically they are now relying more in single player campaigns
Ubisoft: look at there recent cancellations and delays
Activision: put more than 10 studios on COD only is waste of talent despite success it only Cod company now
Maybe these mergers for better I would rather play any Capcom or tecmo game instead
Heck what Housmark doing or solo cap is infinitely more interesting
Imagine Sifu with AAA budget
We need these shakeups in the industry it stagnating
I think these big publishers Activision - EA - ubisoft are failing or something
EA : battlefield flopped hard .. and ironically they are now relying more in single player campaigns
Ubisoft: look at there recent cancellations and delays
Activision: put more than 10 studios on COD only is waste of talent despite success it only Cod company now
Maybe these mergers for better I would rather play any Capcom or tecmo game instead
Heck what Housmark doing or solo cap is infinitely more interesting
Imagine Sifu with AAA budget
We need these shakeups in the industry it stagnating
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aries_71
Junior Member
It's probably worse, but not by that much. In a digital market accustomed to the immediacy of things, purposely delaying a title for one year is very damaging for the impacted platform. It creates a sense of frustration or even uncertainty about the platform future, all of it at a small fraction of the cost of making it fully exclusive. So, I don't buy the narrative that "full exclusive" is bad, but "timed exclusive" are OK. Legislator should put an end to these practices.
Nothing1234
Banned
That is how the gaming industry has ran for decades.
Nothing1234
Banned
Nintendo signed a COD deal so no.
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aries_71
Junior Member
Which doesn’t mean a change wouldn’t be welcome or even necessary…
That sounds crazy to me. Especially when that specific content is timed anyway. I don't see any instance where timed exclusive content can be said to be shittier than a timed exclusive game. It's even worse when you realise that the latter includes games that are live service like PUBG, Valheim, Fall Guys, ARK2 etc.
Nothing1234
Banned
The problem is many devs rely on it for funding at the indie level.
nikolino840
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Ar¢tos
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aries_71
Junior Member
Not only that. Controlling the exclusivity practices and deals may be impossible or very difficult. But 780 pages testify that this is a real issue. We wouldn’t be discussing mergers and acquisitions if the exclusivities, timed or not, were a moot point. What we see is the market reacting to this model.
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Nothing1234
Banned
All those day 1 Game Pass indies would vanish overnight.
Yoboman
Member
Not really. As I've heard over the past week a few times "it was never announced for that console"
Topher
Identifies as young
These acquisitions are not about exclusives. Microsoft's first party content fell far behind and everything up to and including Bethesda was an effort to correct that situation. ABK being up for sale was a situation that was a result of their internal scandals. Bobby Kotick is trying to salvage a big pay day for the stockholders and himself while pushing all the problems on to the new owner. Perfect situation for Microsoft to swoop in and pick up a major publisher.
feynoob
Banned
For tmed exclusive games, you are at least getting full product at a later time.
While timed content, you are getting inferior product, even though you spent the same money as the other platform user, all because MS/Sony decided they wanted to be a dick about it.
Because it was back then, nobody was really complaining about xbox timed exclusive content for GTA, COD, FIFA or anything. They were actually gloating, didn't care or were secretly hoping Sony would die from it.
That's ridiculous, you get the missing content at a later time much like you do the missing entire game.
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aries_71
Junior Member
Nobody was complaining? My God, you should have seen the Neogaf threads about it at the time…
Nothing1234
Banned
Those receipts though.
I did at the time and even posted some in the post you quoted.
MasterCornholio
Member
Not being able to play the game is worse. At least people can play those games even though they might miss out on some content.
Yoboman
Member
Never heard about COD DLC last gen and never really heard about it this gen
It really only comes up when somebody needs to have a cry, or deflect. The whinging about exclusive skins and maps is laughable
Thebonehead
Gold Member
Go ahead - That seems a logical, sane thing for an impartial person to do.
MS is just learning from the best though.
Yoboman
Member
Nintendo did it. Sega did it's Sony did it. MS did it
Nobody's acted like a victim about it until a precious little group in the past few years
phil_t98
#SonyToo
As Sony has done with PS exclusive advertising or stickers all over the software boxes. both as bad as each other
Sony were advertising exclusivity on the box? colour me surprised.
not sure how that's relevant to users not only being Ok with exclusive content but gloating and hoping Playstation fails. Again, I guess the tag really is accurate even when there is no relevance.
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phil_t98
#SonyToo
don't try and act dumb, you know what I mean. Sony exclusive marketing is everywhere
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