Microsoft / Activision Deal Approval Watch |OT| (MS/ABK close)

Do you believe the deal will be approved?

  • Yes, will be approved without changes.

    Votes: 221 24.9%

  • Yes, will be approved but with structural changes to ABK.

    Votes: 102 11.5%

  • Yes, will be approved but only with behavioral concessions.

    Votes: 262 29.6%

  • No, will not be approved.

    Votes: 301 34.0%
  • Total voters
    886
  • Poll closed .
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Handel said:
Assassin's Creed is the 11th best selling game franchise all time, and Valhalla has made more than 1 billion dollars. It's not CoD level but it's still a massive IP, and every acquisition after ABK will receive even more scrutiny(assuming it goes through).
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I'm sure it will receive scrutiny. I just don't think the regulators will stop it.
 
Handel said:
Assassin's Creed is the 11th best selling game franchise all time, and Valhalla has made more than 1 billion dollars. It's not CoD level but it's still a massive IP, and every acquisition after ABK will receive even more scrutiny(assuming it goes through).
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Ubisoft i think would be easy since they are in big financial trouble. It will probably come to a purchase or shutting down with lots of layoffs.


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feynoob said:
Does this mean MS will have activision/blizzard ready for this event? or are they partnering with someone else?


Maybe language barrier from my side.
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No. That's about other first party games made by teams not owned by MS like Flight Simulator or Contraband, games MS has timed exclusivity like Stalker and games for which MS has marketing deals like Diablo IV.
 
kuncol02 said:
No. That's about other first party games made by teams not owned by MS like Flight Simulator or Contraband, games MS has timed exclusivity like Stalker and games for which MS has marketing deals like Diablo IV.
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Where did you hear that? It sounds like itl just be the Starfield showcase with their typical "e3-like" showcase, which will have first party and third party
 
mrmustard said:
I didn't read all the 800 pages here, but a question comes to my mind:

What publishers and devs are left on the market that would require the permission of CMA and Co. for an aquisition?

Destiny or Bethesda were fine, but what about Ubisoft or SEGA?
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All of them require permission if they're "qualifying" acquisitions - they meet the size and jurisdiction requirements.

Sega, Ubi - yes they'd meet the requirements.
 
Heisenberg007 said:
  • September = Starfield
  • October = Hellblade 2
  • November = Avowed
  • December = Avowed 2 - The Return of the Avower.
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What about Forza and Stalker 2 possibly?
 
jshaver488 said:
Where did you hear that? It sounds like itl just be the Starfield showcase with their typical "e3-like" showcase, which will have first party and third party
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That's about what "our studios and partners" means in that tweet. There will be no Ativision because Activision is 95% CoD and Sony have marketing rights for it.
 
kuncol02 said:
That's about what "our studios and partners" means in that tweet. There will be no Ativision because Activision is 95% CoD and Sony have marketing rights for it.
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Yes I know, I just replied because you said "other first party games made by teams not owned by MS" so it sounded like you were saying first party games by studios owned by Ms won't be there
 
I remember one of the regulators definded the "true" aaa publishers as abk, take 2 and ubisoft. So buying of those would get abk levels of scrutiny. Beyond that buying Japanese publishers come with its own hassles and may not be possible.
 
Kvally said:
2024? That is my thought. Maybe like Redfall, have it in May of 2024. Avowed fall of 2024?
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I have to imagine they're planning at least one more big game after September for the end of the year. I'm open for a welcome Hellblade 2 release date, or even Avowed.
 
adamsapple said:
I have to imagine they're planning at least one more big game after September for the end of the year. I'm open for a welcome Hellblade 2 release date, or even Avowed.
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Can't see them releasing another big RPG straight after Starfield, Hellblade 2 would be more likely. I'll take both though lol.
 
Pelta88 said:
Honestly? No.

99.9% of gamers have absolutely no idea that we're 800 pages in talking about an aquisition. Or that this is a hot topic amongst the hard core gamers.
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"Microsoft Acquires Acquisition Blizzard. Xbox now owns Call of Duty, Warcraft, Diablo, and many other IP." is absolutely going to dominate the entire internet for the day if/when it happens.
 
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Dick Jones said:
Surprised they think that Microsoft will keep their word here. The same rhetoric was used when buying Bethesda so I expect COD to leave PS sooner than the 10 years. The last COD on Playstation will be PS5 only [no next gen, I guarantee it]
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Sorry for an old quote but it is applaying in almost every post that I'v been reading.

Can we please, please, at some point, stop with this false sentence and move on?
Case by case basic is a simple concept. Legacy IP are those who are currently running on a system. For istance, you have Fallout 76, TESO, Minecraft and so on in every platform just like before (more platform actually), because they are all legacy game with an established user base actually present.
Every new IP (even a sequel for a well know saga) is not legacy. So, it's up to them make it exclusive or not.

I have nothing against gamer that are against this acquisition. Everyone is free to have his own motivations. At the end of the day tho, someone is so focused in hating something that don't even see other good games or platform.

I don't even need ABK games to be honest. I simply really enjoying this gen of xbox and the genre of games they're releasing. They are high quality too, just other genres. Tastes are tastes at he end of the day.

Anyways, cloud is the ultimate wall against the acquisition. We will see.
 
AstronomerIT said:
Sorry for an old quote but it is applaying in almost every post that I'v been reading.

Can we please, please, at some point, stop with this false sentence and move on?
Case by case basic is a simple concept. Legacy IP are those who are currently running on a system. For istance, you have Fallout 76, TESO, Minecraft and so on in every platform just like before (more platform actually), because they are all legacy game with an established user base actually present.
Every new IP (even a sequel for a well know saga) is not legacy. So, it's up to them make it exclusive or not.

I have nothing against gamer that are against this acquisition. Everyone is free to have his own motivations. At the end of the day tho, someone is so focused in hating something that don't even see other good games or platform.

I don't even need ABK games to be honest. I simply really enjoying this gen of xbox and the genre of games they're releasing. They are high quality too, just other genres. Tastes are tastes at he end of the day.

Anyways, cloud is the ultimate wall against the acquisition. We will see.
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Read MS comments about removing Bethesda games in their EC submission. Read the comments from Xbox management when the deal was announced. You do whatever but I've said many times in this thread that had MS not lied before re Bethesda (a deal that would have gone through if they stated their intentions) then it would be easier to take them at their word this time.
 
Hoeg's latest

edit: It's actually a Destin video featuring Hoeg, not one of Hoeg's Law videos. My bad.

 
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I don't see why sony paying for exclusivity is different from Netflix or Hbo doing it or for that matter Xbox doing it. I think this is a silly PR move that MS bought politicians off for.
 
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C2brixx said:
I wouldn't say it's a "forever deal" because even Microsoft wouldn't be able match a 30% buy of Nvidia stock which be about $202 billion given their current $676 billion market cap.

This was so long ago that I'm not sure who it benefited more at the time. Nvidia's market cap in 2000 was just around $300 million so they could have wanted to be acquired by Microsoft had the Xbox been a big hit. This seemed to be a stipulation that if someone tried to purchase a 30% or more share of stock (like an activist investor) Microsoft would be given the opportunity to buy more.
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I believe this would have been about patents, probably some of the same patents that 3dfx found themselves in breach of IIRC when their proprietary driver ended up being analysed and Nvidia effectively acquired the company in the fallout.

Others in response to my other comment have called it conspiracy theories, and yet your year 2000 and today valuations of Nvidia sort of demonstrate that theirs and Microsoft's valuations have tracked Microsoft's PC gaming OS monopoly over those two and a bit decades. Microsoft own +95% of PC OS gaming market and according to a comment in this thread - probably Steam info - Nvidia have a 90% share of the GPU hardware of those PCs.

I'm as guilty as the next person for not buying AMD GPU or CPUs, probably because I've always mained Windows, but it looks very suspect, even more so after I read an article about the development of Ubershaders for the Dolphin Emulator to solve the Metroid Prime stuttering problem, and optimising a weird problem with DirectX's HAL was a stonewall issue, with noway of them getting the source for debug to see what was halving the performance on the DirectX implementation versus linux vulkan/opengl.
 
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Three said:
This can't be true, companies don't enter more than 10+yr agreements with regulators let alone of their own accord. Or so I've been told.
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I don't understand why Nvidia signed this deal but I also don't understand the licensing deals that Marvel signed with movie studios in 00's
 
PaintTinJr said:
Others in response to my other comment have called it conspiracy theories, and yet your year 2000 and today valuations of Nvidia sort of demonstrate that theirs and Microsoft's valuations have tracked Microsoft's PC gaming OS monopoly over those two and a bit decades. Microsoft own +95% of PC OS gaming market and according to a comment in this thread - probably Steam info - Nvidia have a 90% share of the GPU hardware of those PCs.
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1) Nvidia gpu is 75% of Steam hardware survey responses
2) we really need to distinguish between correlation and causation.

https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/NVDA/nvidia/market-cap
https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/AMD/amd/market-cap
https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/MSFT/microsoft/market-cap

Seems to track closer to AMD over the last 10 years.

Not really dispelling the conspiracy theories but it's at least interesting to read.
 
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