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[Pelta88]

Tim back in December

 

[Varteras]

 

[nikolino840]

 

[Varteras]

"We stood to make money on this and now we won't."

 

[mansoor1980]

 

[feynoob]

I wonder when Ass of Can Whooping gonna join us. He is missing all these fun.

 

[Varteras]

What makes this even sweeter about that dickbag is how happy he was to hear that Bungie games were staying multiplatform while entertaining the idea of ABK games being exclusive.

 

[Three]

What question?




The real question is why don't you sign this deal with ABK or MS regardless of this going through?

 

[Varteras]

What question?




The real question is why don't you sign this deal with ABK or MS regardless of this going through?

The obvious answer being this deal was never going to exist separately with those two companies. It was a dog and pony show to pass a deal. Microsoft and ABK don't give a fuck about Boosteroid or Ukraine.

 

[DeepEnigma]

 

[GHG]

What question?




The real question is why don't you sign this deal with ABK or MS regardless of this going through?

I was about to ask the same thing. Did they not know what they signed or something? When their deal was announced it read like they were going to get access to everything Microsoft have ownership of - therefore that should still be the case minus the ATVI content.

Did they really only sign something that was conditional to the deal going through?

At least they are now free to put their business locations back to their original (and correct) places though.

 

[nikolino840]

What question?




The real question is why don't you sign this deal with ABK or MS regardless of this going through?

I think for small companies asking a deal is more hard then receive one ...

 

[Edmund]

Its not that serious bro ...Its not my money or my company, mate. but sure Ill play along:


Hows this: *clears throat*
Oh gosh...its the end of the world...buildings burning everywhere....MS never got to buy a 70Bn dollar company with their money...what are we gonna do man! its the end!




hows that?

You're coping very well. Good boy.

 

[DeepEnigma]

At least they are now free to put their business locations back to their original (and correct) places though.

 

[nikolino840]

Cloud gaming company that the cma are protecting

 

[DeepEnigma]

Cloud gaming company that the cma are protecting

Yep. Protected them from E.E.E.

 

[Banjo64]

PlayStation is, by far, the biggest market of Call of Duty. If anyone in power puts personal feelings over the bottom line, they won't be in power for long.

Love the avatar

 

[Banjo64]

I love the beauty of the CMA removing Sony from the equation only to deliver their fatality on the back of cloud.

Now I don’t have to read pages and pages of crying over big bad Sony.

 

[reinking]

Wow, what

Interesting to see how previously neutral persons are reporting on it

Missing the point that it wasn’t Sony that got them blocked. Ironically, it seems Game Pass had a hand in it.

 

[Varteras]

Looking forward to the Defining Duke podcast on this one. Matty has mostly had his head on straight when it comes to the state of Xbox, but Cog has been going off the rails a little more each time.

 

[SportsFan581]

Yeah lets blow up people so MS can play monopoly freely.... ooohooo

You make one little joke...

I've already been admonished from the mods (to whom it may concern, nah, what's the fun in that), have you no mercy for an ailing warrior on a day like today? If you prick a green rat, does it not bleed? If you tickle a green rat, does it not laugh?

 

[MasterCornholio]

I love the beauty of the CMA removing Sony from the equation only to deliver their fatality on the back of cloud.

Now I don’t have to read pages and pages of crying over big bad Sony.

I guess it's nice that they can't blame the competition for this.

 

[Varteras]

You make one little joke...

I've already been admonished from the mods (to whom it may concern, nah, what's the fun in that), have you no mercy for an ailing warrior on a day like today? If you prick a green rat, does it not bleed? If you tickle a green rat, does it not laugh?

Suffer not the fool who attacks when he has the upper hand yet pleads for mercy when struck down.

Seriously though, I love you.

 

[Solidus_T]

I love the beauty of the CMA removing Sony from the equation only to deliver their fatality on the back of cloud.

Now I don’t have to read pages and pages of crying over big bad Sony.

On Twitter they are still making this all about big bad evil Sony that is somehow bigger and wields more power than Microsoft.

 

[DeepEnigma]

I love the beauty of the CMA removing Sony from the equation only to deliver their fatality on the back of cloud.

Now I don’t have to read pages and pages of crying over big bad Sony.

Don't worry, the Twittard and Discord derp/PR channels are working on how they can manipulate hit pieces to blame something on Sony as we speak.

 

[Banjo64]

Don't worry, the Twittard and Discord derp/PR channels are working on how they can manipulate hit pieces to blame something on Sony as we speak.

Members of congress yelling about the clouds coming up

 

[Heisenberg007]

I guess it's nice that they can't blame the competition for this.

They're still gonna lol.

 

[Varteras]

Members of congress yelling about the clouds coming up

"Miss Khan, why did you allow the CMA to prevent an American company from owning British clouds?"

 

[DeepEnigma]

Members of congress yelling about the clouds coming up

 

[Captain Toad]

I love the beauty of the CMA removing Sony from the equation only to deliver their fatality on the back of cloud.

Now I don’t have to read pages and pages of crying over big bad Sony.

Yeah, good luck with that.

 

[reinking]

Member this? I ‘member the good times….


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...oft-s-player-no-1-bloomberg-50-2022#xj4y7vzkg

 

[Varteras]

Member this? I ‘member the good times….


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...oft-s-player-no-1-bloomberg-50-2022#xj4y7vzkg

Pepperidge Farm remembers!

 

[adamsapple]

 

[MasterCornholio]

What power do they have?

 

[Varteras]

What power do they have?

As In Cold Blood said when New Zealand was mulling the deal, "I think it's cute they think they have any sway".

 

[IllegalLemon]

This is too big of a news. I had to let go of that Eva Elfie profile photo for a while.

Friendship over with Eva Elfie. Aaron Greenberg is my new best friend.

And yeah, they are only risking increasing their penalty to ABK. This appeal won't do any good.

Any appeal will lead right back to the CMA, which will certainly be met with another "Fuck you, we've made our decision. Take it or leave it". They'll be running in circles. The CMA functions as its own court, it will drag on forever, cost potentially billions more and lead to similar outcomes reaching a dead end street. Microsoft underestimates the power the CMA possesses as an regulatory entity, especially in the UK, which is CMA's own turf.

 

[reinking]

I would expect every company that stood to gain from the acquisition is going to disagree with the CMA. It really sucks for them but maybe MS can still work on deals to bring Xbox/Game Pass games to those services.

 

[Astray]

 

[xHunter]

Who would have thought that shpeshal nick was right all along:

 

[adamsapple]

I would expect every company that stood to gain from the acquisition is going to disagree with the CMA. It really sucks for them but maybe MS can still work on deals to bring Xbox/Game Pass games to those services.

Probably useful ammo in the appeal process.

 

[Varteras]

Probably useful ammo in the appeal process.

 

[adamsapple]

 

[reinking]

Probably useful ammo in the appeal process.

Didn’t the CMA already hear from Boosteroid during this process? I am confident that the CMA was aware of Boosteroids stance prior to this decision.

 

[Varteras]

 

[Mibu no ookami]

Sad isn't it?

Considering the fact that they have seen and experienced first hand how games tend to turn out under Microsoft's management I can't quite work out why thats what they would want. Surely third parties would be better off staying third party if you want the best chance of experiencing high quality games?

But no, that's not what it's really about. That's not what any of this has ever really been about for them unfortunately.

Big individual payouts

 

[Varteras]

Any appeal will lead right back to the CMA, which will certainly be met with another "Fuck you, we've made our decision. Take it or leave it". They'll be running in circles. The CMA functions as its own court, it will drag on forever, cost potentially billions more and lead to similar outcomes reaching a dead end street. Microsoft underestimates the power the CMA possesses as an regulatory entity, especially in the UK, which is CMA's own turf.

And supposedly when it comes specifically to antitrust concerns, the CMA has never been successfully appealed.

 

[adamsapple]

Didn’t the CMA already hear from Boosteroid during this process? I am confident that the CMA was aware of Boosteroids stance prior to this decision.

I don't claim to know how the appeal process works and I also don't know how much of the cloud deals MS were making had these regulatory bodies involved.

Interestingly, the EC seemed to have given the go ahead in terms of their satisfaction for the whole cloud issue earlier this year. If they approve the acquisition based on cloud while CMA is denying it, that's gonna be a fun impasse.

 

[xHunter]

And to finally end the discussion about Sony being the only one against the deal:

- MLex says that only Sony and an undisclosed third party agreed with vetoing the deal. But the final report notes that four other third parties were supporting a block. A fifth said it would be appropriate if a behavioural remedy wouldn't work. Thanks to @gofreak for the correction.

Credits to Idas from REE

 

[Heisenberg007]

I would expect every company that stood to gain from the acquisition is going to disagree with the CMA. It really sucks for them but maybe MS can still work on deals to bring Xbox/Game Pass games to those services.

Probably useful ammo in the appeal process.

No, the deal was about ALL Xbox games. So services like Boosteroid should still get all current and future Xbox games for 10 years. Why would Microsoft backtrack if their goal is to "make games available to more players?"

Boosteroid just wouldn't be able to get Activision games via this deal. But they can always strike another with Activision for only those games.

 

[bentanchorbolt]

I don't know much about big business (so grain of salt) but I suspect the deal will eventually go through. There were already several roadblocks in this deal that MS was able to get past and this is likely another one, very likely in appeal they will find remedies the CMA (and likely UK if they share the same concerns) will accept. Their ruling comes off as weak since Amazon and Google didn't do poorly in cloud gaming because of MS or even Sony or Nvidia. They tried to sell consumers bad products that nobody was interestested in, and it should be clear.