Microsoft / Activision Deal Approval Watch |OT| (MS/ABK close)

Do you believe the deal will be approved?

  • Yes, will be approved without changes.

    Votes: 221 24.9%

  • Yes, will be approved but with structural changes to ABK.

    Votes: 102 11.5%

  • Yes, will be approved but only with behavioral concessions.

    Votes: 262 29.6%

  • No, will not be approved.

    Votes: 301 34.0%
  • Total voters
    886
  • Poll closed .
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Ic3man said:
Can't wait till this gets approved, want to see the meltdown of the Sony snowflakes
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Ar¢tos said:
A new alt has emerged!
Your post history is quite weak for a 3 year old account (mostly one liners shitting on PlayStation related threads) and your posts in this thread are just to say "it will be approved" with no contribution to the thread.

Let the game of "Whose alt is this?" begin!
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I created this GIF to be used for these prestigious occasions :messenger_squinting_tongue:

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Facism said:
I thought the agreement between Acti/MS had written clauses that various regulatory bodies, including the CMA, had to accept the merger for it to go through?
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It does... they would have to make a new contract taking the CMA out of the equation for them to close if the PI gets denied
 
Wulfer said:
Varteras I'm going to say you nailed a lot of good points. However, you failed to nail the obvious points going against the FTC (and or Sony). The simple reasons MS was pushed against the wall to purchase Bethesda and ABK in the first place.

  • Sony already knew how to put leverage on MS with Bethesda because Sony was already using the same tactic with ABK. We just learned how ABK kept asking for more and more money just to keep games on Xbox. - Wrong or Right? Yea I'm right!
  • "Sony only asked for 2 timed exclusives" from Bethesda. Why did Sony do that, have you asked yourself that question? (Here's the answer) - Sony was trying to cozy up to MS's biggest ally and scoop them away from Xbox. Deathloop and Ghostwire was just the beginning. Sony's real eyes were on Starfield and Bethesda's future games!
  • Its easy to see where this was headed. MS loosing ABK and Bethesda and MS takes Xbox out of the game! FTC might not look so, friendly on Sony if they saw the big picture? Which was to get Microsoft and Xbox out of console gaming at all costs.
  • Nothing has changed since Xbox entered the race. Sony said from the very beginning the only endgame for them was no MS in gaming period and they're still trying... Need proof of that how about from this very forum going way back to Nov. 2005!


Thanks Mrbob - The interview article is long toasted but, the facts are still preserved!


When dirt is on the other player things aren't so cut and dry. Wonder if the FTC has seen or knew about this interview?
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That's totally one side accountancy for Microsoft's own incompetency, given that if PlayStation had all the staff and developers Microsoft has now, it would be no contest at all. Plenty has changed in 20years, namely dirty harry-esq business talk like that ancient quote, Sony are intertwined with Microsoft for Cloud that was a deal that bypassed PlayStation leadership opposition, and Microsoft aren't entering with zero devs.

Saying nothing has changed, while Microsoft has Minecraft and Bethesda as part of its home IPs, and has significantly more first party developers than PlayStation and still can't compete globally is all on Microsoft. Sony with the same resources would be out of sight in the UK and US too where this deal is being blocked.

Bethesda favoured Microsoft and are on record before the acquisition about PC first, and then Xbox, so PlayStation trying to get in on three untried, and untested IPs as timed exclusive at the start of a gen when small install bases is normal is hardly starving out Xbox with Bethesda games. Different if they'd taken ES6 exclusive.. which is now a MGS exclusive, too, but yeah, nothing has changed and they need CoD to compete, right?
 
Holy moly all the responses. It seems people are really invested in this topic and I don't care enough to really wanting to know a lot about it so I'll remove myself, I guess.

Edit: But thanks to everyone who bothered responding!
 
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Hudo said:
Well the first point, I don't think a non-British company gives a shit about that. And the second point, the CMA and its rulings only has jurisdiction over the British market, right? Why would that have any effect of acquiring ABK globally?
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Wrong on both.

MS Ltd and ABK Ltd are both UK companies.

And the CMA already demonstrated it has jurisdiction which MS did not contest.
 
ToadMan said:
Wrong on both.

MS Ltd and ABK Ltd are both UK companies.

And the CMA already demonstrated it has jurisdiction which MS did not contest.
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People just aren't getting the globalised market economy memo to realise that MSFT and ATVI's businesses are only represented as that wealth because major economies of the world are all joined up through banking, where real gold reserves reside to underpin those currencies that correspond to those abstract economic markets.
 
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Corrik said:
Sure.

I'll take Microsoft beating the FTC in this and the Injunction being denied. You got the FTC winning and getting their injunction approved.

1k?
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LoL.. arent you a smart boy

You should check your original post ... there is something missing in this bet
 
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PaintTinJr said:
People just aren't getting the globalised market economy memo to realise that MSFT and ATVI's businesses are only represented as that wealth because major economies of the world are all joined up through banking, where real gold reserves reside to underpin those currencies that correspond to those abstract economic markets.
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Yes and it's something the regulators recognise they aren't well equipped to deal with now. The sniping at the CMA for having the temerity to talk to the FTC about a globally significant acquisition for example.

Major multinationals need a multinational response in truth, but the politics and bureaucracy of setting that up and getting any kind of consensus makes it untenable.
 
Bernardougf said:
You should've checked all the meltdowns here when the CMA dropped the console slc and the deal seems like it was going for an easy approval... was quite horrible ... sony fans accounts been banned , accounts suicides... cats and dogs living together, mass hysteria
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Sounds glorious :messenger_tears_of_joy:
 
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Bernardougf said:
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LoL.. arent you a smart boy

You should check your original post ... there is something missing in this bet
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I mean, if he wants to bet a multistep parlay then I need the odds to each part and then we can compute what it in a parlay would be worth on each side. Probably something like what 50 to 100 to 1 odds? We can bet a $1 at that if he wants???
 
Three said:
I think I remember reading next one is on Thursday. Could be wrong though so don't quote me on that.
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Got off my lazy arse and googled it. Starts again tomorrow. Think Stadya Satya might be up then. I expect him to perform really well like.
 
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FUBARx89 said:
Got off my lazy arse and googled it. Starts again tomorrow. Think Stadya might be up then. I expect him to perform really well like.
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I certainly expect him to be the most composed of the Microsoft executives and the most confident in his answers. As the Chairman and CEO of Microsoft, being taken into court over a $70 billion deal, you can be assured that the other board directors and major shareholders will be paying close attention, or going over it after the fact, and noting how he performed. It would be disastrous for him, of all people, to go in and flub his answers.
 
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Corrik said:
Um, yes? Most people thought 6 month timeline for CAT was a quick trial. Many had it at 9-12 months.

Them getting the FTC to try to get an injunction, FTC losing, and them closing over the CMA all by July 15th? Yeah, thats way quicker than I expected. Microsoft forced FTCs hand hard.
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So you were expecting an extension from ABK.
 
Ar¢tos said:
I think the chances of an extension now that Activision shares are higher and they basically scored free 3bn is very low. They'll want a full renegotiation.
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I could quite easily be wrong, but I think the fact that a renegotiation hasn't happened after two months out from being blocked by the CMA is an indication that ABK has no desire to. They would have been well aware of the difficulty in overcoming the CMA. Meta was just a very recent example of how that often goes. So one would think that if they wanted to go the distance, they would have already extended. It's been pointed out many times now. They'd be blocking themselves from making deals with anyone else for however long it takes. Their soon expiring marketing deals, upcoming games, potential future buyers, or even their own acquisition opportunities would very much be affected. Staying on the deal simply paralyzes them for the duration. They have an opportunity to collect $3 billion and explore other options. Diablo 4 was a big hit, they have tons of money stashed away, and their legal troubles have diminished. Microsoft would have to make them one hell of a deal that still has the odds stacked against it.
 
Varteras said:
I could quite easily be wrong, but I think the fact that a renegotiation hasn't happened after two months out from being blocked by the CMA is an indication that ABK has no desire to. They would have been well aware of the difficulty in overcoming the CMA. Meta was just a very recent example of how that often goes. So one would think that if they wanted to go the distance, they would have already extended. It's been pointed out many times now. They'd be blocking themselves from making deals with anyone else for however long it takes. Their soon expiring marketing deals, upcoming games, potential future buyers, or even their own acquisition opportunities would very much be affected. Staying on the deal simply paralyzes them for the duration. They have an opportunity to collect $3 billion and explore other options. Diablo 4 was a big hit, they have tons of money stashed away, and their legal troubles have diminished. Microsoft would have to make them one hell of a deal that still has the odds stacked against it.
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It'll be interesting to see how Bobby presents himself in court.

He has to go through the motions in court, but he must be looking at that golden parachute and thinking how much bigger it could be if they were setting a new price with MS now.
 
Edmund said:
Unfortunately the Xbox fans won't budge. Just ask people like Riky/Adamsapple, Resetera and so called journalists like Tom Warren/Jez/Destin etc.

They believe that it was Sony who forced Microsoft's hand and Microsoft is justified for doing all these.

They have Phil's dick too deep in their throats.

I don't blame them. Phil is THE grandmaster of PR and he knows how to manipulate people idiots with words.
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Fixed a few errors (bolded), but otherwise quite accurate.
 
Man, I've seen some unprecedented levels of hopium over this FTC case, like people completely forgot about the CMA's ruling.

I'm actually starting to feel bad for these people. How sad is your life when you get your validation through corporations. (Especially Microsoft).
 
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