Microsoft / Activision Deal Approval Watch |OT| (MS/ABK close)

Do you believe the deal will be approved?

  • Yes, will be approved without changes.

    Votes: 221 24.9%

  • Yes, will be approved but with structural changes to ABK.

    Votes: 102 11.5%

  • Yes, will be approved but only with behavioral concessions.

    Votes: 262 29.6%

  • No, will not be approved.

    Votes: 301 34.0%
  • Total voters
    886
  • Poll closed .
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Microsoft Lawyer is digging so hard into the statistics and his "models" and showing how it was false that the FTC lawyer won't even have anything to argue back. Good lord she is absolutely good.
 
M16 said:
the FBI kicked in Chapote's door
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swat GIF
 
thicc_girls_are_teh_best said:
them dismissing Xbox players
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Can't get more "pro-consumer" than that.

thicc_girls_are_teh_best said:
And you're being disingenuous in implying FF is a multiplat series.
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Sorry but this is just too much for me :messenger_tears_of_joy:

At some point people need to accept that if something is right for Sony, then the exact same thing is just as right for MS. If everybody should accept happily FF or SF being removed from Xbox by Sony, then there should be no issue with MS removing games from PS, especially if these aren't even series that were on PS beforehand ;)
 
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Guess I'm just going to wait for a summation. Youtuber KingThrash did summation & commentary of the interviews so far, guess they will do one for today's stuff as well.

I can't seem to get in the Zoom call either.

Welp, fun while it lasted.
 
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cireza said:
Can't get more "pro-consumer" than that.


Sorry but this is just too much for me :messenger_tears_of_joy:

At some point people need to accept that if something is right for Sony, then the exact same thing is just as right for MS. If everybody should accept happily FF or SF being removed from Xbox by Sony, then there should be no issue with MS removing games from PS, especially if these aren't even series that were on PS beforehand ;)
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No one is saying that 3P exclusives are a bad thing, or that exclusives are a bad thing. At least, I am not.

But when the company making the purchase of an entire 3P publisher, has multiple pieces of evidence indicating a very targeted campaign to put their direct competitor completely out of business, is using money from unrelated sectors to fund that strategy, has contradicted their own conditions for determining the case-by-case of certain exclusivity of specific games, and can leverage a form of predatory pricing to undercut the direct competitor and just shrug it off while potentially forcing competitors to bleed money & go out of business...

Well, that changes a lot of things, doesn't it. You're only focusing on the "what" and turning two blind eyes to the "how". When the "how" in this case is even more important than the "what".
 
Bruh this thread keeps autoupdating for me and it's making things a pain in the ass to read whilst my phone screen spazzes out to load new replies
 
cireza said:
At some point people need to accept that if something is right for Sony, then the exact same thing is just as right for MS. If everybody should accept happily FF or SF being removed from Xbox by Sony, then there should be no issue with MS removing games from PS, especially if these aren't even series that were on PS beforehand ;)
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I see idiots are still babbling around here and ignoring basic facts like SE games didn't sell on Xbox in the first place so SE was already halfway out the door, and that there's a fundamental difference between getting exclusivity for one franchise and buying one of the industry's largest developer/publisher suites with the intent to forclose competition.

I guess expecting Xbox shills to understand nuance is asking too much.
 
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Z O N E said:
Microsoft Lawyer is digging so hard into the statistics and his "models" and showing how it was false that the FTC lawyer won't even have anything to argue back. Good lord she is absolutely good.
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She is barking a lot but she isn't grasping some of the basic things he has explained multiple times.

They are different models meant to articulate different things. The fact this lawyer has had him explain the 20% conversion of the playstation user subset multiple times is eye-roll inducing. Of course not every playstation user would buy an Xbox — many don't care about COD, also have an Xbox or game on their PC.
 
This case has been a nightmare for Microsoft, all those leaks gotta have Satya on Edge.

I mean every competitor now knows what their plans were & can act faster striking deals etc...

Companies always love to have that as a secret 👍
 
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FlyyGOD said:
If your information is coming from King Thrash then GOD help you.
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By far not the only place I get info from, but they're the only ones I saw with summations of the court proceedings up to now in video format with the quotes themselves included. It's either that or people like XboxERA, Derek or Tom Warren on the flip side; if you're going off possible biases then they aren't any better and arguably could be worst.

All the livestreams are down though and I can't get in the Zoom call. If the FTC releases official court transcripts, I'll give them a read.
 
cireza said:
At some point people need to accept that if something is right for Sony, then the exact same thing is just as right for MS. If everybody should accept happily FF or SF being removed from Xbox by Sony, then there should be no issue with MS removing games from PS, especially if these aren't even series that were on PS beforehand ;)
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If you are honestly comparing ONE 3rd party game being exclusive to a console for 1 year to one company outright purchasing a 3rd party developer and making all their content exclusive to their platform forever then you are truly delusional. Also the audience difference between FF and CoD is huge, they are not comparable in any way.

With that said I don't like 3rd party games being exclusive for any amount of time for either platform. But people need to at least be honest when trying to make arguments cause one of these things is not like the other and comes across as corporate cheerleading which is insane to me.
 
Ronin_7 said:
This case has been a nightmare for Microsoft, all those leaks gotta have Satya on Edge.

I mean every competitor now knows why their plans were & can act faster striking deals etc...

Companies always love to have that as a secret 👍
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from a business perspective its a disaster, having all this public for Sony and Nintendo to know they can drastically shift there strategy in the future.

It really shows you how important ABK is to MS, it gives credence to how big a deal this acquisition is despite the downplaying
 
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