Microsoft / Activision Deal Approval Watch |OT| (MS/ABK close)

Do you believe the deal will be approved?

  • Yes, will be approved without changes.

    Votes: 221 24.9%

  • Yes, will be approved but with structural changes to ABK.

    Votes: 102 11.5%

  • Yes, will be approved but only with behavioral concessions.

    Votes: 262 29.6%

  • No, will not be approved.

    Votes: 301 34.0%
  • Total voters
    886
  • Poll closed .
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Just a heads up, if anyone wants to join the Zoom call, you can be in the "waiting room" like an hour beforehand. I had Zoom in the background at around 3:30pm, an hour before the Zoom call started. So you could even be prepared long before it starts.
 
adamsapple said:
Beth is just about to break the guy into admitting on air that foreclosure makes no sense lol
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This is why the CMA abandoned this route.

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I don't see how you can see this as her tearing him apart.

She's being as obtuse and ignorant as your standard lawyer. Just using tricks to try and force yes and no answers from questions that aren't that simple.

Of course, that's what she's being paid to do. It's not about the truth, it's about the quality of the argument and getting your opponent to say what you want them to say.
 
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adamsapple said:
Beth is just about to break the guy into admitting on air that foreclosure makes no sense lol



No, someone on Era who is in the zoom call.
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Who said it had to make sense for Microsoft to do it?

It doesn't make sense for zenimax games to be exclusive either. They are throwing away 60% of their potential profits away there too despite admitting making zenimax games exclusive even if they are 11/10 games isn't going to make someone buy an xbox instead of a PlayStation.

Why does it have to make sense for ms to pull of this move? They already have and it didn't make sense financially.
 
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fallingdove said:
She is barking a lot but she isn't grasping some of the basic things he has explained multiple times.

They are different models meant to articulate different things. The fact this lawyer has had him explain the 20% conversion of the playstation user subset multiple times is eye-roll inducing. Of course not every playstation user would buy an Xbox — many don't care about COD, also have an Xbox or game on their PC.
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Where is the 20% from and when 15% is used as an input what happens to the feasibility of foreclosing COD from Playstation.(something MS has said they wont do and have contracts in place)
 
DJ12 said:
Who said it had to make sense for Microsoft to do it?

It doesn't make sense for zenimax games to be exclusive either. They are throwing away 60% of their potential profits away there too despite admitting making zenimax games exclusive even of they are 11/10 games isn't going to make someone buy an xbox instead of a PlayStation.

Why does it have to make sense for ms to pull of this move? They already have and it didn't make sense financially.
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Microsoft is probably willing to take a hit on revenue to make certain games exclusive to build up gamepass or maybe lure gamers to Xbox.

60% of millions =/ 60% of billions
 
DeepEnigma said:
Not everyone is a great at speaking when asked on the spot, especially in court. Phil showed that and Jim showed that.
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Phil and Jim aside, it feels like the FTC prepared 5 hours from the start of these hearings when they knew they were going to seek an injunction however long ago. I'm not sure what the FTC is trying to argue anymore and once again, they only asked for two days of this, but MS wanted five.
 
adamsapple said:
And he's getting all the time to give them, he's just not doing a good job of it.
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He's not getting all the time though. Every time he starts talking about the factors that support his numbers, she cuts him off and tries to draw connections between his share model and foreclosure model.
 
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fallingdove said:
He's not though. Every time he starts talking about the factors that support his numbers, she cuts him off and tries to draw connections between his share model and foreclosure model.
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I don't know which part of the stream you're at but he's been getting a lot of dead air and empty time to make his points while finding his submissions do the report. He may not be used to being grilled like this but he's getting fair time to respond.
 
TrueGrime said:
Phil and Jim aside, it feels like the FTC prepared 5 hours from the start of these hearings when they knew they were going to seek an injunction however long ago. I'm not sure what the FTC is trying to argue anymore and once again, they only asked for two days of this, but MS wanted five.
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Does this shock you from a government organization?
 
I don't even play CoD or any Activision title; I just want this deal to fail for the sake of this industry.

You can check my trophy list, the only Activision games I have there are the Crash and spyro games.
 
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Honestly, it sounds like she is confused and trying to poke holes but i don't see what her ultimate argument is against him.

Judge had enough and told them to go on break
 
The selfish side of me wants this deal to go through and them to make CoD exclusive to Xbox/PC immediately only so Jim Ryan might finally revive SOCOM in order to have their own shooter.
 
Tams said:
I don't see how you can see this as her tearing him apart.

She's being as obtuse and ignorant as your standard lawyer. Just using tricks to try and force yes and no answers from questions that aren't that simple.

Of course, that's what she's being paid to do. It's not about the truth, it's about the quality of the argument and getting your opponent to say what you want them to say.
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Guess you haven't been paying attention to the judge either then, both have had their say about this.
 
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