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[DeepEnigma]

I mean, it's the very next line and he says that he might not agree with it personally but he will bow down to shareholders (and stacks of cash)

 

[IntentionalPun]

I'm not watching live but is it true that bobby said he is against gamepass?

Against day 1 games on sub services.

Not against older titles on sub services.

I mean.. COD is on PS+ lol

 

[Bernoulli]

yes

 

[splattered]

Not just gamepass, but all subscription services yeah

 

[DeepEnigma]

Against day 1 games on sub services.

Not against older titles on sub services.

I mean.. COD is on PS+ lol

As Jim Ryan said. 3rd party publishers do not like the "day 1 model" for big AAA games. Unless platform holders are willing to break the bank to do so.

 

[Fabieter]

CMA dropped console SLC so it is totally irrelevant.

If anything, those testimonies actually hurt CMA's case, because Jim Ryan and even Stadia guy told judge that they don't consider cloud gaming being separate market. Which is main anchor of CMA's block.

It shows that ms "we give 100s of millions more gamers the ability to get these games" when avb would have done all of them by themselves.

 

[Ar¢tos]

I know, I was fucking with you. Aren't they called Bronies or Bronys or fucking weirdos?

Wtf? They even have names for that?

 

[Bernoulli]

Against day 1 games on sub services.

Not against older titles on sub services.

I mean.. COD is on PS+ lol

3 years old games don't matter really

Day 1 gamepass destroys sales like said in CMA documents

 

[Pelta88]

X amount of players on Gamepass is now a dead narrative and metric for success.

No matter what side of this argument you fall on, the cold stats revealed by Microsoft and then entire consortium of publishers demonstrate that GP player counts, are a clear obfuscation.

 

[Banjo64]

I'm not watching live but is it true that bobby said he is against gamepass?

Think we knew this already as he'd said in submissions that it cannibalises sales and devalues the product.

That being said, the CMA found that they'd always been willing to discuss opportunities internally (regarding subscription models).

So it seems to be that they are against them, but if there was a way of doing it in a way that exceeded their current models' profitability they would have been open to it.

 

[Topher]

I mean, it's the very next line and he says that he might not agree with it personally but he will bow down to shareholders (and stacks of cash)

And? I mean......it is absurdly obvious that Kotick doesn't care as long as MS is paying $69 billion. Kind of a dumb question by the judge.

 

[IntentionalPun]

As Jim Ryan said. 3rd party publishers do not like the "day 1 model" for big AAA games. Unless platform holders are willing to break the bank to do so.

And 2+2 is in fact, 4.

Like I don't get why any of this stuff is a revelation.

 

[adamsapple]

High fived phil spencer after saying he doesn't like mult-sub models but can change his mind, his severance package must be real good.

 

[DeepEnigma]

And 2+2 is in fact, 4.

Like I don't get why any of this stuff is a revelation.

Agreed. But people dig their feet in and try and push back against the logistical facts. Mental gymnastics, confirmation bias for their choices, the brand™ can do no wrong, etc., etc..

 

[Jigsaah]

3 years old games don't matter really

Day 1 gamepass destroys sales like said in CMA documents

One hundred percent. That's why I'm buying Starfield. On Steam.

 

[dotnotbot]

High fived phil spencer after saying he doesn't like mult-sub models but can change his mind, his severance package must be real good.

Incorrect, I saw by my own eyes Bobby slapped Phil in the ass

 

[Dick Jones]

High fived phil spencer after saying he doesn't like mult-sub models but can change his mind, his severance package must be real good.

Bobby Kotick is your man? Says a lot about you.

 

[adamsapple]

Bobby Kotick is your man? Says a lot about you.

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I don't know how to make flying thing with ascii art but you get the idea.

 

[Dick Jones]

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With you? Doubt it. You really softened you stance on Bobby. We're not suprised, it was flagged at the acquisition announcement that Bobby would find supporters.

 

[SirKicksalot]

Live footage from the court

 

[adamsapple]

The court has pulled all its exhibits after the Sony redaction mess.

[Image: https://platform.theverge.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/chorus/uploads/chorus_asset/file/24758978/1258924242.jpg?quality=90&strip=all] While we listen to Dr. Bailey’s testimony, a storm is unfolding elsewhere in the FTC v. Microsoft case. The court uploaded a document earlier from Sony...

www.theverge.com

The court has pulled all its exhibits after the Sony redaction mess.

While we listen to Dr. Bailey's testimony, a storm is unfolding elsewhere in the FTC v. Microsoft case. The court uploaded a document earlier from Sony that included confidential financial information that wasn't properly redacted. Now all the documents have suddenly disappeared.

It looks like Sony redacted the documents with a pen and when you scan them in it's easy to see the redactions. Reporters and Sony's competition will have downloaded all the documents as they were in the public domain, so the damage is done

whelp that pen redaction job has had quick ramifications.

 

[Heisenberg007]

X amount of players on Gamepass is now a dead narrative and metric for success.

No matter what side of this argument you fall on, the cold stats revealed by Microsoft and then entire consortium of publishers demonstrate that GP player counts, are a clear obfuscation.

I joined the party late today; I got too engrossed into Final Fantasy 16 and lost time of track. Unlocked the 'From Stone to Sand' trophy, and that was ... just epic

Which "GP metric" are you referring to?

 

[DeepEnigma]

The court has pulled all its exhibits after the Sony redaction mess.

[Image: https://platform.theverge.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/chorus/uploads/chorus_asset/file/24758978/1258924242.jpg?quality=90&strip=all] While we listen to Dr. Bailey’s testimony, a storm is unfolding elsewhere in the FTC v. Microsoft case. The court uploaded a document earlier from Sony...

www.theverge.com

whelp that pen redaction job has had quick ramifications.

Some litigators are getting the axe.

 

[Three]

Live footage from the court

FTC Lawyer is showing Bailey didn't actually do any analysis of regional monopolies, did not take into account that GOW:R released 4 years after whereas COD is an annual release, did no analysis of other ABK games.

 

[SirKicksalot]

FTC Lawyer is showing Bailey didn't actually do any analysis of regional monopolies, did not take into account that GOW released 4 years after whereas COD is an annual release, did no analysis of other ABK games.

Yeah why didn't her May analysis include the game released in June? Bailey should stick to Irish Cream!

 

[Heisenberg007]

Who is talking right now and why is she so nervous? lol. She is so terrible. Who is she?

 

[LiquidRex]

Incorrect, I saw by my own eyes Bobby slapped Phil in the ass

But didn't Bobby hang around with Jim Ryan to discuss a deal if the ABK acquisition doesn't go through?

 

[NickFire]

The court has pulled all its exhibits after the Sony redaction mess.

[Image: https://platform.theverge.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/chorus/uploads/chorus_asset/file/24758978/1258924242.jpg?quality=90&strip=all] While we listen to Dr. Bailey’s testimony, a storm is unfolding elsewhere in the FTC v. Microsoft case. The court uploaded a document earlier from Sony...

www.theverge.com

whelp that pen redaction job has had quick ramifications.

Rule 1 for redactions. If doing them manually, copy the redacted document and submit the copy. Otherwise people can probably read what you redacted.

 

[Three]

Yeah why didn't her May analysis include the game released in June? Bailey should stick to Irish Cream!

ABK games isn't a synonym for Diablo 4. Diablo 3 and gen 8 games existed. Dr Lee did that analysis with gen 8 games throughout the gen.

 

[SirKicksalot]

ABK games isn't a synonym for Diablo 4. Diablo 3 and gen 8 games existed. Dr Lee did that analysis with gen 8 games throughout the gen.

What about Star Trek: Voyager – Elite Force which was rereleased on GOG in 2021?

 

[splattered]

The court has pulled all its exhibits after the Sony redaction mess.

[Image: https://platform.theverge.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/chorus/uploads/chorus_asset/file/24758978/1258924242.jpg?quality=90&strip=all] While we listen to Dr. Bailey’s testimony, a storm is unfolding elsewhere in the FTC v. Microsoft case. The court uploaded a document earlier from Sony...

www.theverge.com

whelp that pen redaction job has had quick ramifications.

Anything beyond the one document that was posted on twitter already?

 

[Calverz]

High fived phil spencer after saying he doesn't like mult-sub models but can change his mind, his severance package must be real good.

This screams to me that if they win this court case, they are closing regardless of cma. And will deal with cma later.

 

[tmlDan]

Who is talking right now and why is she so nervous? lol. She is so terrible. Who is she?

Same Economist as yesterday, Bailey or w/e for MS

 

[FUBARx89]

Bobby Kotick really doesn't give a fuck does he

What the fuck. Wonder if Phil Spencer is gonna be annoyed with him.

 

[Heisenberg007]

Same Economist as yesterday, Bailey or w/e

Oh okay. I had bailed by then. So she is the economist that represents Microsoft, right? Lee was FTC's witness.

 

[Three]

What about Star Trek: Voyager – Elite Force which was rereleased on GOG in 2021?

I'm not sure what you're saying here. I said that the FTC lawyer is trying to show she didn't do any analysis of other ABK games ie Diablo, overwatch etc. you tried to go to some gotcha as if I mentioned Diablo 4 specifically.

 

[b6a6es]

Rule 1 for redactions. If doing them manually, copy the redacted document and submit the copy. Otherwise people can probably read what you redacted.

Or straight up print to pdf instead of saving it as one if doing (fill & sign) function

 

[Jigsaah]

Strange they are bringing up Nvidia when they've since changed their stance after negotiations with Microsoft.

What's FTC's play here?

 

[LiquidRex]

So Bobby Kotick under oath threw Microsoft under the bus

 

[splattered]

Whoever this person is they sound like they have no idea what is being asked of them and how to answer... how odd

 

[Three]

So Bobby Kotick under oath threw Microsoft under the bus

And then apparently high fived his corpse after?

 

[SirKicksalot]

I'm not sure what you're saying here. I said that the FTC lawyer is trying to show she didn't do any analysis of other ABK games ie Diablo, overwatch etc. you tried to go to some gotcha as if I mentioned Diablo 4 specifically.

He was trying to show bullshit that was cut off by the judge because analyses have scopes, and IIRC her Sony and Microsoft telemetry data started in October 2022. So anything earlier was outside the scope, as were some of his adjacent questions.

 

[Three]

He was trying to show bullshit that was cut off by the judge because analyses have scopes, and IIRC her Sony and Microsoft telemetry data started in October 2022. So anything earlier was outside the scope, as were some of his adjacent questions.

I'm listening live where was he cut off? the only part was when the judge shut bailey up and told her to wait for the next question

 

[splattered]

Wtf are these questions? "Sir, would you say that your service sucks?"

 

[NickFire]

So Bobby Kotick under oath threw Microsoft under the bus

Not at all. All he did was testify to common sense stuff (for long time industry overserves).

But I would say say he threw the social media and enthusiast forum astroturfers under the bus. It won't matter by the morning though. Before the sun comes up in the US tomorrow, don't be surprised if you see claims / articles that Bobby's biggest regret was not getting on subs earlier, not porting COD to Switch, etc.

 

[intheinbetween]

This screams to me that if they win this court case, they are closing regardless of cma. And will deal with cma later.

Seems that way

 

[Three]

SoloKingRobert entered the stream with this amazing input


"SoloKingxRobertI: wouldn't be surprised if Sony tried to bribe the Judge with a PS5."

 

[jm89]

Strange they are bringing up Nvidia when they've since changed their stance after negotiations with Microsoft.

What's FTC's play here?

His bigging up cloud gaming alot. Using him to prove cloud gaming will be big and viable.

 

[splattered]

SoloKingRobert entered the stream with this amazing input


"SoloKingxRobertI: wouldn't be surprised if Sony tried to bribe the Judge with a PS5."

LMAO i saw that

 

[ChiefDada]

People are reacting as if Kotick is an agent or executive of Microsoft and not the CEO of Activision. Buyer and seller want the deal to go through for entirely different reasons. He isn't throwing anyone under the bus.