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[RickMasters]

It's not complaining. Don't know where you got that. It shows intent. As I said, an intent they acted on to foreclose every game from an entire publisher. Which, itself, does not make financial sense when many of Zenimax's games struggle to sell and you pulled them from probably their best chance to make money.

Again...fromn a strategic point of view it makes sense to make them exclusive. that involves eating that loss. And MS have shown they are willing to do that. more power to them. they bit the bullet so thats the worst thing thats gonna happen. they dont sell PS copies....and thats fine if means they gain extra xbox/gamepass customers. thats the goal. not to sell as many copies of your game on rival platforms at the expense of your own.



if ya wanna make an omlette...your gonna have to crack a few eggs.

 

[BlueLyria]

Ohhh so they merged with PlayStation. So the same thing you all are against is ok when Sony does it. Just admit y'all are bias

Thank god Insomniac games was a 69 billion dollar publisher before sony bought them

 

[SuperSaiyanWithDreads]

What games did Sony/Insomniac remove from Xbox?

Ohh competition doesn't have to cater to the opposition, competition isn't about gifting the opposition favours nice try.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Getting all defensive, your bias is showing . I asked a simple question but of course I can't get a simple response

Not defensive at all. Providing information.

Stop projecting with circle jerk questions.

 

[SuperSaiyanWithDreads]

Learn how to ask a question if you want a yes or no answer.

Learn how to mind your business if you have nothing substantial to add.

 

[Mr Moose]

Ohh competition doesn't have to cater to the opposition, competition isn't about gifting the opposition favours nice try.

What?
What's with the swords?

 

[SuperSaiyanWithDreads]

Not defensive at all. Providing information.

Stop projecting with circle jerk questions.

You provided irrelevant bias information to go with your bias narrative . I know it's your month but gone somewhere with that weird sexual jokes I'm not the one. Not into "circle jerks" weirdo.

 

[Varteras]

Again...fromn a strategic point of view it makes sense to make them exclusive. that involves eating that loss. And MS have shown they are willing to do that. more power to them. they bit the bullet so thats the worst thing thats gonna happen. they dont sell PS copies....and thats fine if means they gain extra xbox/gamepass customers. thats the goal. not to sell as many copies of your game on rival platforms at the expense of your own.



if ya wanna make an omlette...your gonna have to crack a few eggs.

I'm gonna make an omlette out of your eggs.

I don't care what they do. I just want to make the point that there is a reason to not trust them if they say they won't foreclose. They can and have and they can eat those losses. There is no reason to trust them if they say they won't.

 

[Rossco EZ]

Ohh competition doesn't have to cater to the opposition, competition isn't about gifting the opposition favours nice try.

you want simple answers but cant give them yourself?

 

[SuperSaiyanWithDreads]

Thank god Insomniac games was a 69 billion dollar publisher before sony bought them

That point doesn't matter , it's business are you spending the 69billion Sony would have done the same if they could irrelevant bias point.

 

[Solidus_T]

Ohhh so they merged with PlayStation. So the same thing you all are against is ok when Sony does it. Just admit y'all are bias

Right, a STUDIO (not a huge publishing house) that previously exclusively worked with Sony, being added to Playstation studios is the same as a large, 3rd party multiplatform publisher who makes the most popular, yearly multiplatform release, being purchased with the intent to remove that said game and other popular multiplatform titles from other platforms...
What you are saying is incredibly, paupably disingenuous and has already been hashed out in the very early pages of this thread. Sorry about your two Xbox games from Insomniac that you sorely miss. They likely weren't getting sequels

 

[The Pleasure]

Bonus hole!

 

[Kilau]

Learn how to mind your business if you have nothing substantial to add.

Go hold your L next to your college email, hope it came with a free degree because they didn't teach you a damn thing.

 

[ToadMan]

Ohhh so they merged with PlayStation. So the same thing you all are against is ok when Sony does it. Just admit y'all are bias

You're equating ABK to Insomniac?

 

[DeepEnigma]

You provided irrelevant bias information to go with your bias narrative . I know it's your month but gone somewhere with that weird sexual jokes I'm not the one. Not into "circle jerks" weirdo.

What is bias about what I said.? Stop projecting.

 

[SuperSaiyanWithDreads]

you want simple answers but cant give them yourself?

Maybe you believe that's a simple question because you made that up in your head that it was simple, but since it's so simple instead of replying to me, how about you answer it for that person?

 

[adamsapple]

Alright so, to summarize and close for the night. I don't think the FTC lawyers made a good case for granting the injunction at all.

G'night folks.

 

[BlueLyria]

That point doesn't matter , it's business are you spending the 69billion Sony would have done the same if they could irrelevant bias point.

It matters because it's one of the biggest companies ever buying another big company, the issue is not the sale itself but the size, bringing up hypothetical questions don't change the facts.
You should just chill out, you're being retarded

 

[Rossco EZ]

Alright so, to summarize and close for the night. I don't think the FTC lawyers made a good case for granting the injunction at all.

G'night folks.

G'night, if you find out its live tomorrow let me know ill try stream it again

 

[wolffy66]

What games did Sony/Insomniac remove from Xbox?

This argument is irrelevant. The game is either playable or it isn't.

 

[The Pleasure]

It matters because it's one of the biggest companies ever buying another big company, the issue is not the sale itself but the size, bringing up hypothetical questions don't change the facts.
You should just chill out, you're being retarded

Don't fuck with a super sand legend. If you act demickey, they go after freezy pops.

 

[adamsapple]

G'night, if you find out its live tomorrow let me know ill try stream it again

I think this was it, we're done with these streams.

In fact, even the Judge's orders will originally be filed under seal, it will be up to FTC or MS to let the public know.

The order will be filed under seal, so the public won't find out immediately but I'm sure the FTC and Microsoft will be keen to let the world know the instant this order is passed down.

It’s over.

[Image: https://platform.theverge.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/chorus/uploads/chorus_asset/file/24755330/WJoel_STK156_1.jpg?quality=90&strip=all] Judge Corley has wrapped up the closing statements and the hearing is finished. Judge Corley will now look over the submitted arguments, evidence...

www.theverge.com

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Why the fuck is insomniac being brought up

 

[yet_another_alt]

Has Microsoft acquired the government yet?

Not the whole thing yet but they have a bunch of exclusivity deals.

 

[graywolf323]

Alright so, to summarize and close for the night. I don't think the FTC lawyers made a good case for granting the injunction at all.

G'night folks.

I mean you could have posted this a week ago, we all knew this was going to be your take even back then

 

[Mr Moose]

This argument is irrelevant. The game is either playable or it isn't.

What game?

 

[adamsapple]

I mean you could have posted this a week ago, we all knew this was going to be your take even back then

The hearings and closing arguments cemented it though

 

[Rossco EZ]

I think this was it, we're done with these streams.

In fact, even the Judge's orders will originally be filed under seal, it will be up to FTC or MS to let the public know.

It’s over.

[Image: https://platform.theverge.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/chorus/uploads/chorus_asset/file/24755330/WJoel_STK156_1.jpg?quality=90&strip=all] Judge Corley has wrapped up the closing statements and the hearing is finished. Judge Corley will now look over the submitted arguments, evidence...

www.theverge.com

i see, hopefully if CMA do something similar we can listen in on that as well

 

[Solidus_T]

Has Microsoft acquired the government yet?

They're working on it

Sarcasm aside, they do operate basically as a branch of the govt in other respects.

 

[Painskiller]

It was a yes or no question

Do not tell me what to do, please. Or I will report you for rudeness.

 

[Rossco EZ]

Why the fuck is insomniac being brought up

because #Sonytoo

 

[adamsapple]

Has Microsoft acquired the government yet?

Step 1: Make CoD exclusive
Step 2: Acquire Sega
Step 3: Open new branch in the Oval office.

 

[CLW]

Learn how to mind your business if you have nothing substantial to add.

Phil I KNOW it's been a bad week in Court for you and you are about to get canned but I'm sure there is a golden parachute waiting for your exit

 

[DeaDPo0L84]

What?
What's with the swords?

This is war bitch! Get your head in the game or gtfo.

 

[bender]

Either way, Insomniac has only made two Xbox games. Ever.
Before the merge with Playstation, they were considered an appendage of Sony to most.

Who did you forget about?

 

[The Pleasure]

Who did you forget about?

What's fuse?

 

[BlueLyria]

Who did you forget about?

I personally forgot anything besides Sunset Overdrive, amazing game btw, needed a sequel

 

[bender]

What's fuse?

It's what came of Overstrike when EA's marketing team got influence on Insomniac's creative effort.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

This trial really brings to light the issues in Corporate America. The judge flat out asked Bobby Kotick why he would agree to the acquisition if it would lead to value destruction for the industry and activision in particular.

Why? "Because Shareholders". It's better to pay off a select group of individuals than to concern yourself with the long-term health of the business. It is absolutely rancid and toxic to the core. This kind of nonsense is ruining businesses and industries and I really wish there were some laws in place that required executives to only get paid with stock that matures over a VERY long period so they are actually beholden and aligned with the long term health of the business.

Getting the shareholders a short term bailout while the underlying business and rank and file employees suffer over their careers is everything that's wrong with our system these days.

 

[Sleepwalker]

Who did you forget about?

 

[bender]

Yep.

Inomniac fell out of favor with Sony and went through some dark times. Song of the Deep was published by Gamestop. It also makes Microsoft passing on Spider-Man even more humorous as they had a relationship with Insomniac after Sunset Overdrive but lacked vision.

 

[BlueLyria]

Yep.

Inomniac fell out of favor with Sony and went through some dark times. Song of the Deep was published by Gamestop. It also makes Microsoft passing on Spider-Man even more humorous as they had a relationship with Insomniac after Sunset Overdrive but lacked vision.

Wasn't the spiderman offer just for the console holder? It was Sony that choose Insomniac as the dev right?

 

[Clintizzle]

This trial really brings to light the issues in Corporate America. The judge flat out asked Bobby Kotick why he would agree to the acquisition if it would lead to value destruction for the industry and activision in particular.

Why? "Because Shareholders". It's better to pay off a select group of individuals than to concern yourself with the long-term health of the business and longevity. It is absolutely rancid and toxic to the core. This kind of nonsense is ruining businesses and industries and I really wish there were some laws in place that required exeutives to only get paid with stock that matures over a VERY long period so they are actually beholden and aligned with the long term health of the business.

Getting the shareholders a short term bailout while the underlying business and rank and file employees suffer over their careers is everything that's wrong with our system these days.

Lol no offense but it's really not that deep.

Business are there to make money and keep the shareholders happy. That's not going to change. Especially at the multi-billion dollar industry level.

 

[b6a6es]

Step 1: Make CoD exclusive
Step 2: Acquire Sega
Step 3: Open new branch in the Oval office.

Step 4: gain a seat at the UN (preferably one at the security council too)

 

[bender]

Wasn't the spiderman offer just for the console holder? It was Sony that choose Insomniac as the dev right?

Correct. Microsoft could have taken Marvel up on the offer and tapped Insomniac on the shoulder since they'd recently worked with them on an open-world action adventure game with a heavy focus on traversal.

 

[dotnotbot]

Cloud argument coming back to deal the final blow would be funny

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Lol no offense but it's really not that deep.

Business are there to make money and keep the shareholders happy. That's not going to change. Especially at the multi-billion dollar industry level.

Lol no offense but you're not very well informed if you think "it's not that deep"

Businesses are intended to make money over the long term and keep their customers happy

However it's all too common these days for businesses to turn into a feeding ground for corporate raiders looking to destroy their business in the long term while taking out a golden parachute for opportunistic executives and board member cronies.

The short term and long term are not aligned and that's bad for making money over the long term

 

[RCU005]

I'm not playing this childish game with you Kilau. I thought you needed a college email to be on this website?

Ohh competition doesn't have to cater to the opposition, competition isn't about gifting the opposition favours nice try.

Ohhh so they merged with PlayStation. So the same thing you all are against is ok when Sony does it. Just admit y'all are bias

Learn how to mind your business if you have nothing substantial to add.

You provided irrelevant bias information to go with your bias narrative . I know it's your month but gone somewhere with that weird sexual jokes I'm not the one. Not into "circle jerks" weirdo.

That point doesn't matter , it's business are you spending the 69billion Sony would have done the same if they could irrelevant bias point.

Maybe you believe that's a simple question because you made that up in your head that it was simple, but since it's so simple instead of replying to me, how about you answer it for that person?

I don't know who you are, but your answers make me believe that you can only see things as black or white. I hate that!

You go against people justifying their argument with logic, and you take that logic and throw it out of the window to make sure only your opinion matters (even if it goes against the truth and evidence)

Please behave! Thank you!

 

[ChiefDada]

Alright so, to summarize and close for the night. I don't think the FTC lawyers made a good case for granting the injunction at all.

G'night folks.

The hearings and closing arguments cemented it though

Interesting, I think the closing arguments made the injunction more likely.

 

[Three]

The Drama lmao

Major meltdown incoming for one side

Judge ain't going for this dudes bs at all lmaoo

Neogaf Lawyers will tell you "Its From Polls!"

Wonder who.