Microsoft / Activision Deal Approval Watch |OT| (MS/ABK close)

Do you believe the deal will be approved?

  • Yes, will be approved without changes.

    Votes: 221 24.9%

  • Yes, will be approved but with structural changes to ABK.

    Votes: 102 11.5%

  • Yes, will be approved but only with behavioral concessions.

    Votes: 262 29.6%

  • No, will not be approved.

    Votes: 301 34.0%
  • Total voters
    886
  • Poll closed .
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Topher said:
Except.......for the constantly getting banned part.
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Yoboman said:
You can't convince me these aren't paid to be so embarassing, and paying for a Twitter subscription as well to be so more people can see you be unhinged about videogames 😭

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People are stupid.
Look at reddit, youtube and other sections of social media.
From sporting to movies to comics, you get clowns like these days.

These people have made their lives about these subjects. Its one of the reason why I dont want to get involved with social media that much.
 
NickFire said:
No one should let their expectations change because of that order (either direction). It's a routine scheduling order. It might matter a great deal down the road, but only if MS is ordered not to close by a court first.
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I don't think I'll be able to function normally until this closes or doesn't
 
feynoob said:
They say crazy attracts crazy. Never asume there is no female version of these.
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28 years of marriage tells me "opposites attract". That's the case for me anyway.

And when I say "opposites attract", that is to say......my wife isn't the crazy one.

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feynoob said:
People are stupid.
Look at reddit, youtube and other sections of social media.
From sporting to movies to comics, you get clowns like these days.

These people have made their lives about these subjects. Its one of the reason why I dont want to get involved with social media that much.
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I know

But replying to a politician who is anti consolidation, anti big corp on principle with "have you heard about the value of Gamepass?" is just so unhinged
 
Folks need to separate politics from this deal.

Even though Lina is clearly political in her actions, we don't have to follow suit.

Changing your mind about the deal because democrats support the FTC or the other way around with people like Jim Jordan obviously siding with what's best for the big corporation should not change your initial opinion.

This deal transcends politics and we know more about how this affects us way more than any of these politicians do.
 
Jigsaah said:
Folks need to separate politics from this deal.

Even though Lina is clearly political in her actions, we don't have to follow suit.

Changing your mind about the deal because democrats support the FTC or the other way around with people like Jim Jordan obviously siding with what's best for the big corporation should not change your initial opinion.

This deal transcends politics and we know more about how this affects us way more than any of these politicians do.
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PaintTinJr said:
Correct. But does my logic still stand, and if so, does this then help their stats if they back the FTC, because it won't get referred and that way their decision stands, yes?
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Can't really say if I'm being honest.

Reason 1 - judges are supposed to decide the case based on the facts and law. How people will react (reputational damage) is not really part of that. But in reality they are human beings and we are all susceptible to outside influence.

Reason 2 - the 9th has been, let's say, the subject of much debate in recent years. Some would say they didn't care at all about the reputation due to being overturned so much. Some would say they cared about reputation a great deal, with the caveat being its their reputation with the very politically biased enclave they preside over they cared about specifically.

Reason 3 - other posters brought up a wild card. From 2016 to 2020 we have a President who was not exactly popular where the 9th presides, but who appointed some vacant seats in the 9th. So now many of us have no clue how certain issues will be decided when the outcome would have been obvious in 2015.

Reason 3 is also a mind screw because the dominant political ideology on the West Coast (where 9th is) would normally be "big corps are bad." But this one is a tech corp. And they don't call it Silicone Valley for nothing.
 
DeepEnigma said:
Part of me wants to see them take the scorched earth approach.
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For the damage the CMA will do to them long term, yes, but for the damage it will do to the industry and by extension PlayStation's finances and then their ability to fund their output I would prefer them to just unblock the deal with an Activision divestment.
 
feynoob said:
The deal gets worse as time goes on
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What I wouldn't give for Kotick, come the 18th, to just say "Nah, I'm good", take his $3B, and continue being CEO of that greedy corp he runs.

I mean, why would Kotick want to leave right now? His life's goal is to make Call of Duty games every year and run the business. The Microsoft deal was something he did out of desperation to protect his own hide, which he has admittedly said is now not an issue with the company, and of course the stock has recovered well.
 
James Sawyer Ford said:
What I wouldn't give for Kotick, come the 18th, to just say "Nah, I'm good", take his $3B, and continue being CEO of that greedy corp he runs.

I mean, why would Kotick want to leave right now? His life's goal is to make Call of Duty games every year and run the business. The Microsoft deal was something he did out of desperation to protect his own hide, which he has admittedly said is now not an issue with the company, and of course the stock has recovered well.
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I read this somewhere else dunno how true it is

Yes, but there's nuance to this, current stock price is tied to this transaction going through, if ABK walks away they might get $3B in cash on hand, which is not guaranteed to be paid in dividends to investors short-term, but how much investors will actually lose in market valuation? Not only that but it's quite common for CEOs and the like to tie their bonus to stock performance, so I would believe they would keep the transaction at the very least until their next bonuses are attributed.
 
havoc00 said:
I read this somewhere else dunno how true it is

Yes, but there's nuance to this, current stock price is tied to this transaction going through, if ABK walks away they might get $3B in cash on hand, which is not guaranteed to be paid in dividends to investors short-term, but how much investors will actually lose in market valuation? Not only that but it's quite common for CEOs and the like to tie their bonus to stock performance, so I would believe they would keep the transaction at the very least until their next bonuses are attributed.
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They may lose a bit short term. Stock price was around $80 when people thought it was mostly dead. Maybe it'd sink back to mid 70s or something.

But why does Bobby Kotick care about a short term 26% gain in stock price vs. being the fucking CEO of the company and seeing it grow over 800% the last decade? He can just be CEO, have his fun, and continue growing the company and maybe be even richer rather than doing a short term sellout solution

Seems like he sold out only because he thought the end was near for him. Now it's not. No idea why he'd want to sell out now.
 
James Sawyer Ford said:
They may lose a bit short term. Stock price was around $80 when people thought it was mostly dead. Maybe it'd sink back to mid 70s or something.

But why does Bobby Kotick care about a short term 26% gain in stock price vs. being the fucking CEO of the company and seeing it grow over 800% the last decade? He can just be CEO, have his fun, and continue growing the company and maybe be even richer rather than doing a short term sellout solution

Seems like he sold out only because he thought the end was near for him. Now it's not. No idea why he'd want to sell out now.
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Maybe Phil promised him a MS job? Maybe he's tired of it and wants to fly on his helicopter all day? Try something new? Who knows lol
 
James Sawyer Ford said:
Guys like Bobby never want to quit. It's not in their blood.
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Isn't he still facing a bunch of stuff in California with blizzard? Maybe he fears that too? Whatever it is Bobby seems to have a good business sense and wins at everything so I'm sure there's a method behind the madness here.
 
havoc00 said:
Isn't he still facing a bunch of stuff in California with blizzard? Maybe he fears that too? Whatever it is Bobby seems to have a good business sense and wins at everything so I'm sure there's a method behind the madness here.
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Bobby Kotick Breaks His Silence: Embattled Activision CEO Addresses Toxic Workforce Claims as Microsoft Deal Hangs in Balance

Activision Blizzard CEO Bobby Kotick has broken his silence on the toxic workforce claims as he attempts to close a massive Microsoft deal.
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"We've had every possible form of investigation done. And we did not have a systemic issue with harassment — ever. We didn't have any of what were mischaracterizations reported in the media," Kotick asserts. "But what we did have was a very aggressive labor movement working hard to try and destabilize the company."
 
havoc00 said:
Isn't he still facing a bunch of stuff in California with blizzard? Maybe he fears that too? Whatever it is Bobby seems to have a good business sense and wins at everything so I'm sure there's a method behind the madness here.
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His comments on the stand about Game Pass being "value destructive" are bizarre too. I get that he was under oath and being honest, but the judge is right - why in the world would you sell out to your company's demise? He can claim "the shareholders" all he wants, but I feel like that was the dishonest part about his statement. Nobody forces anyone to just take the highest bid that lands on your lap. That's not always in the best interest of the shareholders long term.
 
James Sawyer Ford said:
variety.com

Bobby Kotick Breaks His Silence: Embattled Activision CEO Addresses Toxic Workforce Claims as Microsoft Deal Hangs in Balance

Activision Blizzard CEO Bobby Kotick has broken his silence on the toxic workforce claims as he attempts to close a massive Microsoft deal.
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"We've had every possible form of investigation done. And we did not have a systemic issue with harassment — ever. We didn't have any of what were mischaracterizations reported in the media," Kotick asserts. "But what we did have was a very aggressive labor movement working hard to try and destabilize the company."
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What an honorable man remember when he gave his personal phone number out to employees during Covid ?

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Bobby Kotick, Activision Blizzard CEO, gives his phone number to 10,000 employees | CNN Business

Activision Blizzard CEO Bobby Kotick is using the coronavirus pandemic to (safely) get closer to his employees.
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James Sawyer Ford said:
His comments on the stand about Game Pass being "value destructive" are bizarre too. I get that he was under oath and being honest, but the judge is right - why in the world would you sell out to your company's demise? He can claim "the shareholders" all he wants, but I feel like that was the dishonest part about his statement. Nobody forces anyone to just take the highest bid that lands on your lap. That's not always in the best interest of the shareholders long term.
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that's how it works if the shareholders vote to sell Bobby can't stop it.
 
PaintTinJr said:
For the damage the CMA will do to them long term, yes, but for the damage it will do to the industry and by extension PlayStation's finances and then their ability to fund their output I would prefer them to just unblock the deal with an Activision divestment.
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You know that's not going to happen. You know MSs end game.
 
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