Forza Motorsport (XSX) vs Gran Turismo 7 (PS5) Graphics Comparison (Up: Video in OP replaced as IGN one was not fit for purpose)

Which is better?

  • Forza Motorsport(2023)

    Votes: 170 24.0%

  • Gran Turismo 7

    Votes: 405 57.3%

  • Mario Kart 8DX

    Votes: 132 18.7%
  • Total voters
    707
seriously just fucking hire the devs from DriveClub.

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What did they do to that forza footage to make look so washed out? I'm playing on Xbox and pc and it looks nothing like that. I do have amd gpu though so it could possibly be a nvidia glitch? Idk it definitely doesn't look like that on Xbox though. 😵‍💫

That video is to be laughed at .. using it in console warring is embarrassing.
 
I have only briefly played the PC version of Forza Horizon this morning so I cannot comment on whether it looks better or worse than Gran Turismo 7, which I have played extensively, in both 2D and on PS VR2.

However, what I can say with confidence is the FH will absolutely be the better racing game without a doubt. GT7 is a fine driving game with superb graphics and replays, certainly better than anything seen in the Forza games, but it is just not a good racing game due to its bizarre Japanese cafe-themed single player mode, that is way too short, and the bland AI, which has always been a problem with the GT games in my experience. Not that GT has ever claimed to be the best racing game anyway as the game box has always clearly stated that GT is a driving simulator!
 
TheThreadsThatBindUs said:
Forza really looks so grey and washed out. Like the image has been desaturated. Why would the dev ship the game in this state?

The washed-out lighting reminds me of Halo Infinite.
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Starfield also had this issue but at least you could fix the horrid washed out look with a mod in the PC version. It is an artistic choice, apparently, one that I personally do not like. I want an image with deep blacks and heavy contrast not something where the darkest shade of black is mid-grey!
 
DJ12 said:
I'm pleased for you I really am, but RT doesn't make the world of difference your claiming here. GT7 is by far the better looking game. And I imagine comparing replay modes would actually show how poor this rt implementation is in Forza.

Maybe it'll look better on PC when they add rtgi.

Forza has always prioritised unimportant details to give the fanbase a little tug. They should concentrate on the cars a hell of a lot more.
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I didn't mention RT once in that post. If anything i posted a long rant in another thread about how they should ditch rt.

You are confusing GI with rt?

Forza has better gi light bounce. You can see it in every comparison. If you looked at those gifs and thought gt7 looks better than i can't help you.
 
RoboFu said:
What did they do to that forza footage to make look so washed out? I'm playing on Xbox and pc and it looks nothing like that. I do have amd gpu though so it could possibly be a nvidia glitch? Idk it definitely doesn't look like that on Xbox though. 😵‍💫

That video is to be laughed at .. using it in console warring is embarrassing.
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It's a bug on Series consoles, if you change some setting it'll wash everything out. Doesn't seem to affect PC.
 
SlimySnake said:
Ok, last one.

DriveClub Rain vs Forza Rain. Driveclub still wins lol The XSX is like 10 times more powerful than the base PS4. I get that they are doing native 4k 60 fps in performance mode which is 8x more pixels per frame, but can we maybe drop the resolution down a bit to get some of those decade old driveclub rain particles?

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Also love how the entire track is wet and reflective. you dont need RT reflections to get good reflections. Just talk to the ex evo studios tech team and hire those geniuses.
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Just don't let let those geniuses touch the online parts.
 
Doctor Hades said:
I have only briefly played the PC version of Forza Horizon this morning so I cannot comment on whether it looks better or worse than Gran Turismo 7, which I have played extensively, in both 2D and on PS VR2.

However, what I can say with confidence is the FH will absolutely be the better racing game without a doubt. GT7 is a fine driving game with superb graphics and replays, certainly better than anything seen in the Forza games, but it is just not a good racing game due to its bizarre Japanese cafe-themed single player mode, that is way too short, and the bland AI, which has always been a problem with the GT games in my experience. Not that GT has ever claimed to be the best racing game anyway as the game box has always clearly stated that GT is a driving simulator!
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As for the campaign you are probably right, but from GtSport the online mode of the saga is the best that exists on consoles to COMPETE in races.
 
RoboFu said:
What did they do to that forza footage to make look so washed out? I'm playing on Xbox and pc and it looks nothing like that. I do have amd gpu though so it could possibly be a nvidia glitch? Idk it definitely doesn't look like that on Xbox though. 😵‍💫

That video is to be laughed at .. using it in console warring is embarrassing.
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If you change the graphics modes and then don't restart the console, it makes everything else look washed out.

DF touched on this in their recent tech video for the game.

Turn 10 already know of the issue and will be fixed in the next patch.


 
Comparing FH5 to GT7 is one of the most useless things ever, specially when GT is made online first, while FH5 can't be taken seriously in any way.
 
Porticus said:
Comparing FH5 to GT7 is one of the most useless things ever, specially when GT is made online first, while FH5 can't be taken seriously in any way.
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Not only does this not make any sense .... this topic is also not even about FH5.


SlimySnake said:
I didn't mention RT once in that post. If anything i posted a long rant in another thread about how they should ditch rt.

You are confusing GI with rt?

Forza has better gi light bounce. You can see it in every comparison. If you looked at those gifs and thought gt7 looks better than i can't help you.
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GT looks great too, Forza just looks better in those comparisons.
 
Neither game looks exceptional, imo. You'd think we'd be able to have better graphics with a small map and relatively few objects on screen.
 
adamsapple said:
GT looks great too, Forza just looks better in those comparisons.
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In some cases, but then Forza is highly inconsistent in visuals. So it doesn't really look better than GT7.

Also, comparing them directly also ignores the significantly lower resolution in Forza vs. GT7's resolution.
 
Heisenberg007 said:
Also, comparing them directly also ignores the significantly lower resolution in Forza vs. GT7's resolution.
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As a wise man once said.

Heisenberg007 said:
it does not necessarily always make a look game better either.
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The better GI bounce makes it look along with the RT of the Performance RT mode. If you want sheer resolution, you can switch to Performance mode which retains the same GI and is 2160p too.
 
To my eyes, I prefer the look that Forza has over Gran Turismo, but honestly, it's apples to apples, they are so damn close, it'd honestly be tough for me to tell which one is which if they weren't labeled.

That said, both look great, both seem to be a great time if you are a fan of the genre. Good time to be a fan.
 
Ive watched a bunch of comparison videos today of different times of day and weather effects and think generally, Forza looks a generation ahead of GT7 which is to be expected given GT7 is cross gen. I do however think at times GT7 looks a little better in behind the car view, however if you're playing a sim racer that way you should probably burn it hell for all eternity 😜. Forza is way ahead in interior views. Lighting is also much more impressive, where GT7 looks a little cartoony/gamey to my eyes . The fact that other cars on the track have no head head lights at night is also weird. I do like how GT7 tail lights pop compared to Forza though.

Both games look great, but Forza definitely has the edge in most categories.
 
Heisenberg007 said:
And that'd be a better mode for comparison, I think. Both full 4K.
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The RT is the unique thing and what gives it one edge though, especially since it is Performance RT, it's not like they're comparing a 30 FPS mode with a 60 FPS mode.

I would love to have a poll but I have a feeling the vast majority of SX players are, or will, play this in Performance RT.
 
Darsxx82 said:
The PC version is basically the XSX quality mode with better AF.

The big difference was going to be in the implementation of RTGI, which has been delayed to a next update. Maybe even in XSX in replays it could be perfectly plausible.
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If they do plan to support the game for a longer period, like they said, I can easily see that and a 120hz mode in the coming updates on console (SX at least).
 
GHG said:
Yeh I'd like to see some confirmation for this.

Edit: just googled and it the classic unspecified "future update", no reference of it being in the first update.
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Like Redfall's 60 FPS?

To avoid a similar fate (and backlash), they should share a date or at least a month.
 
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