Ristifer
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Sure. We can pretend this kind of discourse only happens in this thread.
Forza Motorsport (XSX) vs Gran Turismo 7 (PS5) Graphics Comparison (Up: Video in OP replaced as IGN one was not fit for purpose)
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HeWhoWalks
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We aren't in other threads. We're in this thread. Thus, irrelevant.
If you don't like watching the continued topic of this thread play out, there's an easy solution.
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Ristifer
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Trust me, it's in other threads all too often. The fact that you act like it's contained in here is laughable.
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
I don't act like shit. I'm saying you're in here bitchin' when people are doing what the thread called for. Head out if it's not for you.
Ristifer
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Don't worry, I'm sure your preferred plastic box is winning the battle.
HeWhoWalks
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Ah, we've moved into this phase of your pointless babbling. Got it.
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Ristifer
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I'm laughing too, so no worries. There's a difference between comparisons and outright warring about little fragments in images/gifs ad nauseam. But I'm sure everyone's favourite boxes are winning in their heads.
HeWhoWalks
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Really. So tell us thread policeman/woman/whatever the fuck you are — what should they be doing?
Ristifer
Gold Member
Probably just comparing. But since no one can do that without having it devolve into plastic box humping, it's just astounding to watch. The fact that you're swearing and getting all riled up just makes it funnier.
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
"Riled up"?
For real. Feels like some people don't actually have their consoles plugged in. They just have them tucked into their beds next to them like teddy bears.
There's a saying about glass houses. Read up on it.
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Ristifer
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I'm not riled up. Like I said, it's hilarious. You're the one spouting off about posts being stupid and swearing. Calls my posts stupid but continues to engage. I've clearly hit a nerve.
Forget the RT, lighting, washed out look, even car models.
The biggest sign something went wrong in development for me is trackside detail.
This was always my biggest complaint about GT7, although newer tracks are much better. I'm also convinced PD have been making undocumented changes to improve trackside detail. The likes of Tokyo and Sardegna now look pretty impressive. At launch they were very underwhelming.
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HeWhoWalks
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Ristifer
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Irony and perception are two different things.
HeWhoWalks
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No shit..... oh, I forgot, no "swearing" allowed.
In truth, what you're saying isn't that serious. I just don't get why someone would participate in a thread who's material is something they don't like.
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SkyHighTrees
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It's a comparison thread and folk don't want comparisons? Seems it's the black sheep that has won... You know, the cross gen ugly game
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
All i see in GT7 and Forza 7 are crushed blacks and bland lighting. Maybe FM8 is using hero lighting on cars. Who knows. I simply prefer it.
This is a slightly misleading comparison between DC which is under cloudy skies and FM8 during bright daylight, but i love how FM8 cars look here. Straight up CG.
FM's lighting is so good.
Elysium44
Banned
Driveclub is a very dark game (I have it). The FM clip is on a bright day so the comparison doesn't prove a lot. Compare it to FM5 or 6.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Elysium44
Banned
Forza doesn't have global illumination does it? Anyway I thought it was a comparison thread, okay. The lighting looks... fine. You seem to think it is doing something special which previous Forzas didn't.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
It's biggest accomplishment is indeed getting the day time lighting right. They just have to tweak the gamma settings to get rid of the slightly washed out look, but I just love the look of the game with all cars on screen properly lit. They stand out in ways NPC cars in other racers dont.
Pretty sure it has realtime GI. What is missing is RTGI which was promised for PC but did not ship at launch.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
It has real time calculated GI. Not as expensive as ray traced GI but still a very nice effect.
Elysium44
Banned
I see, I can't keep up with the different terminology tbh.
edit - yes indeed.
Forza Motorsport tech review: a pleasing upgrade for series veterans
Six years have passed since the release of Forza Motorsport 7, so does the 2023 release offer enough of a visual upgrade over its predecessor? Here's Oliver.
www.eurogamer.net
This sort of comparison frustrates me because FM7's lighting was poor compared to its predecessors, so it's a bit misleading imo. If you compared FM5 to FM7, the former looks significantly brighter than the latter too.
Maple Valley wasn't in FM5 or FM6 unfortunately or I'd do a comparison myself.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I understand. Lots of people use the RTGI shorthand, which can be both real time GI or ray traced GI, it gets confusing.
But, for this game, they *said* the PC version will support full ray traced GI as well, but that option isn't there at launch. Maybe in a later update.
Unknown?
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Don't worry, he's just trying to derail the thread because he doesn't like the narrative.
sendit
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What is going on with this Forza M pic? Look at the red car ahead, there is a shadow cast being draped over the vehicle. However, it doesn't affect the lighting on the vehicle, are you sure you're using Quality mode here?Forza Motorsport
Senua
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GT7
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djjinx2
Member
Wait it's OK above but not here?? Jeez stop moving goal posts.
On a serious note there's barely a real Series X vs PS5 comparison like for like in here!
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
Seems that way!
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Well, technically Every game has global illumination, what we are discussing here is realtime GI or dynamic GI. GI was baked in last gen in pretty much every single video game. AC Unity uses really high quality baked in GI, but it basically prevented them from switching between different time of days on the fly. So like Spiderman they would use really high quality GI probes for one time of day then after a few missions hide the time of day/lighting change behind a loading screen.I see, I can't keep up with the different terminology tbh.
edit - yes indeed.
Forza Motorsport tech review: a pleasing upgrade for series veterans
Six years have passed since the release of Forza Motorsport 7, so does the 2023 release offer enough of a visual upgrade over its predecessor? Here's Oliver.
This sort of comparison frustrates me because FM7's lighting was poor compared to its predecessors, so it's a bit misleading imo. If you compared FM5 to FM7, the former looks significantly brighter than the latter too.
Maple Valley wasn't in FM5 or FM6 unfortunately or I'd do a comparison myself.
This realtime GI will only affect transitions from day time to evening then night. In other racing games with realtime time of day changes, those transitions are abrupt and you can see exactly when they flip from one time of day to the next. realtime or dyanmic GI is supposed to gracefully handle that transition. I am sure they have made improvements to their overall GI light bounce but the dynamic nature of their GI solution is something rarely seen last gen.
RTGI is basically the same thing but hardware accelerated using RT cores to properly calculate the light bounce, but I hope they go back and improve their regular lighting model and go back to what they showed a couple of years ago. Putting RTGI wont magically fix everything. It will just make it more accurate. I have no idea why they felt compelled to downgrade it when they can run the game at native 4k 60 fps on the series x, but they shouldve had multiple lighting settings on PC. Starfield also uses realtime GI but it supports like three different lighting settings. Some make less of a difference than others but its a gorgeous looking game under the right lighting conditions at max settings and looks substantially better than the xsx version.
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
i am convinced the 1440p performance rt version looks better than my pc version at ultra lolCouple of Xbox Screenshots (RT Perf S/X) from Forza.
//DEVIL//
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I am sorry but the interior look like shit. almost as if the model isn't even fully loaded. wtf !Couple of Xbox Screenshots (RT Perf S/X) from Forza.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
You know I won't be surprised
Someone in the AC Mirage topic also said the pictures I posted look better than their PC version, those pictures were also AC Mirage in Performance mode (1440p or thereabout)
djjinx2
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Wouldn't surprise me if bugged, the clocks have not looked great to me in many cars. Should be a simple thing to get right too..
U n i o n 0015
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T10 outsources so much of their car modeling overseas, that it frankly shows in the quality control.
adamsapple
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Some direct captures from my console.
Series X, Perf RT mode.
Series X, Perf RT mode.
my guy demigod about to drop a fresh lol emoji
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Insane Metal
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^looks good adamsapple. I'll post a few from GT later.
Bogroll
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Why should there be, the roof isn't on the floor.
I've already said. This is the amateurs thread.
nosoynadie22
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nosoynadie22
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Skifi28
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Is that the 787b?FM 2023
GT7
BigLee74
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Xbox can't do circles!Bunta_Fujiwara
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Car models on GT are 2 generations ahead. The amount of work that PD puts in them it's unmatchedFM 2023
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