Europe Monthly Charts - October 2023: PS5 is up 143% yoy in October , Switch is 20% down yoy while Xbox is down 52% yoy
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mansoor1980
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xbox has bad numbers globally , phil spencer needs to travel , like to a lot of regions/countries to promote the xbox brand
gokurho
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Big if true ....
MisterXDTV
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Nobody gives a fuck about Phil Spencer except people on ResetEra
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
And people on here, he must be the most talked about figure in videogames on Neogaf. Not beloved, but endlessly talked about.
Unknown?
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No, it's time to buy EA and Nintendo.
MisterXDTV
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He was considered the savior of the Xbox brand and he's doing much worse than Don Mattrick that was considered a complete idiot...
That's why....
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Luminoth-4545
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From InstallBase
Europe October 2022:
"367,821 games consoles were sold across European markets last month, a drop of 33% over the same period the year before. This data does not include Germany or UK figures, for UK data click here.
In a rare twist, PS5 was the best-selling console of the month, just ahead of Nintendo Switch. Switch suffered a steep drop over October 2021, due to the fact that the Switch OLED model launched during this period last year.
It's the first time since September 2021 that Nintendo Switch was not the No.1 console across Europe.
The Xbox Series family of consoles is the only platform to post a year-on-year increase in October, with sales up over 26%."
PS5: 135k
Switch: 130k
XB:100K
October 2023
"Over in console hardware, PS5 is comfortably the No.1 console in Europe (across tracked markets, UK and Germany not included). PS5 sales are up 143% over October last year, driven by the availability of stock this time around. Nintendo Switch is at No.2 despite a 20% drop in sales compared with last October, while Xbox Series S and X sales continue to struggle in Europe, down 52% year-on-year.
In total, 481,000 consoles were sold across the tracked markets in October."
PS5: 320K
Switch: 110k
XB: 50K
Europe October 2022:
"367,821 games consoles were sold across European markets last month, a drop of 33% over the same period the year before. This data does not include Germany or UK figures, for UK data click here.
In a rare twist, PS5 was the best-selling console of the month, just ahead of Nintendo Switch. Switch suffered a steep drop over October 2021, due to the fact that the Switch OLED model launched during this period last year.
It's the first time since September 2021 that Nintendo Switch was not the No.1 console across Europe.
The Xbox Series family of consoles is the only platform to post a year-on-year increase in October, with sales up over 26%."
PS5: 135k
Switch: 130k
XB:100K
October 2023
"Over in console hardware, PS5 is comfortably the No.1 console in Europe (across tracked markets, UK and Germany not included). PS5 sales are up 143% over October last year, driven by the availability of stock this time around. Nintendo Switch is at No.2 despite a 20% drop in sales compared with last October, while Xbox Series S and X sales continue to struggle in Europe, down 52% year-on-year.
In total, 481,000 consoles were sold across the tracked markets in October."
PS5: 320K
Switch: 110k
XB: 50K
MisterXDTV
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Unknown?
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They were all fairly close last year but 50k? It's getting stomped! Imagine if they didn't have two different consoles.
Tiago Rodrigues
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This is not even funny at this point...how is it possible that a console that's on sale for 300€ in an entire continent, with 2 big AAA releases recently can't even sell 50k units? (here in Portugal there's deals at 200€ for Series S right now lmao)
HeWhoWalks
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demigod
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chromatic9
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I knew Sony had released Spiderman 2 before. How do they keep getting away with it?
Phase
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Releasing very few good games, and sitting on the rest of their IP's.
MisterXDTV
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Maybe giving away games Day 1 on PC Gamepass is not a great way to sell consoles.... And even those who don't want GP, just buy them on Steam....
Amazing strategy
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Fake
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Thats crazy. God of War was 40% bigger than God of War.
gokurho
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crackajack
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And I would have thought the market dries up a bit, after the initial huge surge once the PS got better availability, finishing catching up with the pent up demand. But that seems not be a factor at all.
Some people are certainly waiting for a proper Slim price, but seems like the number of people willing to pay more than last gen, increased enough to keep momentum that high.
Some people are certainly waiting for a proper Slim price, but seems like the number of people willing to pay more than last gen, increased enough to keep momentum that high.
Oberstein
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This is crazy & Xbox still isn't putting up a fight for the holidays I'm not even sure what's going on with them at this point. They are giving up on selling the current Xbox Series consoles
Punished Miku
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Now you're actually catching up to the conversation from over a year ago, and I'll give you credit that you're actually the only person in the thread that seems to actually be concerned about a potential monopoly and lack of competition.
So now, how do you fix the unusually sticky hyper market consolidation if traditional competition metrics no longer work? Price cuts and cheaper system doesn't work. PS raises the price and sales go up. Cheaper games day 1 on GP doesn't work. PS raises the price of games and sales go up. What would you do to save the gaming industry from being locked to the PSN digital storefront almost exclusively? I propose (over a year ago) that you allow the Activision merger. PS will always have Call of Duty, but now MS has secured enough revenue that they will be profitable without question and they aren't going anywhere. They can keep experimenting to see if anything works and the console industry will still have competition.
We were that close to the edge of the cliff, but the gaming industry was saved with the Activision / MS buyout. Jim Ryan nearly had us all.
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Thirty7ven
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Xbox is at 389€, PS5 at 429€.
2024 better deliver, Phil Spencer said earlier this year he could see the roadmap and they would be consistently launching games, but right now all we know for 24 is Hellblade 2 I think? And that went from 23 to early 24 to late 24?
Insane if 23 isn’t rock bottom for the Series.
GHG
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Here's that "monopoly" word yet again, and you don't know what it means.
Traditional competition does work, they just aren't competing, by and large their products are shite.
Oh
My
God
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kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
Yup. MS is getting completely Sega'd by Sony this generation. There's no way MS can stay in the console space with these horrendous hardware sales after buying so many development studios in such a short time. The only way to make these enormous investments work is by a huge expansion of their customer base but at the moment their sales are plummeting down.
I also don't understand how Phil Spencer still has a job when Xbox as a gaming brand is crashing hard. It won't be long before he's replaced. Xbox needs to make drastic changes to stay in the race because the way it's going now, their days are numbered.
Wrong I'm rational and I knew it would happen but didn't want to get banned for making a thread to tell everyone what was about to happen
MisterXDTV
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COMING SOON....
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Something that the green team doesn't seem to understand, to sell a console you need ton consistently make great games.How is that so hard to understand for some of you is a mistery (unless heavily biased of course).Being cheap and everything you listed is like saying I can play some games of my nephews Vtech why isn't it seeling better than a gaming PC?
And another problem that some seems to have is monopoly of the market vs monopoly of the industry but that may need a deeper reflexion than sales bad=/= monopoly.That will be my only post about it here since I don't want to derail the thread by talking about something totally unrelated like you did.
Go_Ly_Dow
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So Europe and Asia Xbox massively trailing PS.
NA slightly trailing PS but the gap is widening and lots of big games still coming to PS exclusively either 1st or 3rd party which suggest the gap will widen more.
I was expecting a closer generation between the two but it seems by the end of the gen it will be the opposite of this.
NA slightly trailing PS but the gap is widening and lots of big games still coming to PS exclusively either 1st or 3rd party which suggest the gap will widen more.
I was expecting a closer generation between the two but it seems by the end of the gen it will be the opposite of this.
LimanimaPT
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We had black friday last week and the ps5 standard was selling for 430 euros. Usually it costs 550. But all bundles had similar discounts including spidey.
I've finally got one for xmas. November numbers will be huge if this was in all Europe.
I'm in portugal by the way...
I've finally got one for xmas. November numbers will be huge if this was in all Europe.
I'm in portugal by the way...
ChorizoPicozo
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listening to the Xbox 2 podcast......yep. the fear is real.
On one hand, the Xbox division is making more money than ever, while on the other hand, the Xbox console is performing worse than ever.
so, you have these people confused at the Xbox situation; they don't know if Xbox is falling or flying.
the issue is: That company has two incompatible/opposite ideologies:
MS: put that shit everywhere.
Xbox: but we need exclusives to sell consoles.
but consoles are not selling.And now we know that GP's growth is not really a metric MS finds useful...aka is not performing as they expected.
MS and Xbox will need to make a decision.
Going full in on consoles to try to gain market share or just drop out of the console race and go full Third Party and try to build a storefront elsewhere.
On one hand, the Xbox division is making more money than ever, while on the other hand, the Xbox console is performing worse than ever.
so, you have these people confused at the Xbox situation; they don't know if Xbox is falling or flying.
the issue is: That company has two incompatible/opposite ideologies:
MS: put that shit everywhere.
Xbox: but we need exclusives to sell consoles.
but consoles are not selling.And now we know that GP's growth is not really a metric MS finds useful...aka is not performing as they expected.
MS and Xbox will need to make a decision.
Going full in on consoles to try to gain market share or just drop out of the console race and go full Third Party and try to build a storefront elsewhere.
Tiago Rodrigues
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I...what?
I mean...Sony will start the year with TLOU2 Remaster in January, Helldivers 2 and FFVII Rebirth in February, Death Stranding 2, Rise of the Ronin, Silent Hill 2 and Stellar Blade are also quite possibly 2024 titles. God of War DLC is supposedly going to be announced next month as well. There's the typical yearly MLB game as well. This is not counting with possible announcements we don't know about. Good luck to MS i guess.
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kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
PS5 costs 428 euro in the Netherlands at the moment. Xbox Series X (Diablo bundle) costs 415 euros, Series S only 229 euros.
Duchess
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Not forgetting Silent Hill 2, Granblue Fantasy: Relink, and that game where you get to play as a butt*.
(* - Stellar Blade)
PS5 sold 6.4X the Xbox Series
No way Xbox Series consoles will survive the next few years if this continues
Unknown?
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I wonder if you put the same effort towards Microsoft's near monopoly in the PC operating system space?
No one wants a monopoly but you're highly delusional if you think the Activision buyout saved the gaming industry. Sounds like you would be happy about the recent news that Google wanted to buyout Epic. What a huge industry saving moment! Hopefully Apple buys out Steam too!
LordCBH
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Despite Xbox pushing hard on marketing for Sega titles, P3R and Like a Dragon will sell more PlayStations than Xboxes as well
MisterXDTV
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It seems clear to me that Xbox is dead...
People keep using that name but it's actually Microsoft (the parent company) that is spending that huge amount of cash in gaming publishers
It's just convenient for green fans to keep calling it Xbox. But even they know it's over...
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Horseganador
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And the Forza where it is came out in October and it is as if it did not exist, it is not on the table, nothing is said about sales.
Thirty7ven
Banned
Really bad reading honestly, not trying to insult you. Xbox isn’t losing market share to just PlayStation, they are losing market share to Nintendo and Steam too. Some of this is down to releasing games day 1 on PC, some is down to the failures of Xbox One, some is down to the failures of Series X because we are three years into the gen and Xbox Studios still haven’t released the kind of hit game that makes people take notice.
The way you write it reads as if Xbox is firing on all cylinders and failing to a bigger brand, when in fact what’s happening is Xbox are reaping what they sowed after a decade of degrading their big IP, not creating any new big IP, and mismanaging their studios. Look at what happened to the Initiative, they had to hire Crystal Dynamics to take Perfecr Dark out of development hell. Where’s Everwild?
You speak of revenue but Xbox was already big on revenue, they had already bought Minecraft, Gamepass increased revenue by a significant amount, what is more revenue going to do if we’re still looking at a rest of the generation being driven by old soup IP and as of right now, no game that you can truly point to and say HYPE.
Also look what’s happening to Gamepass, yeah it was the golden age when they kept adding old games and increasing the wow value factor of the service, because it was the end of the gen, but now? It’s doing more harm than good because now you have a fanbase trained to not buy games, day 1 releases from third party are niche games, and big third party games come out on the service about as late as they do on PS Plus.
It changes nothing for the console’s fate, buying ABK I mean, because Xbox’s problem wasn’t revenue, or profit, it’s the console’s growth which is non existent and it’s all because they keep solving problems nobody had, while resisting the one true problem they have.
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