Phil Spencer: announcement this week

StueyDuck

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If anything... all these rumors have pushed them to speak sooner which is a good thing.

I don't think people are going to get what they want with this though.

Expect alot of corporate speak, "game by game basis" type statements and I think the only game that will be confirmed 100% will be hifi rush.

I don't think we should expect much else
 
havoc00

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Punished Miku

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Clear said:
Not to be a dick about this, but does anyone else think they may have done a review of upcoming product for the year and come to the conclusion that nothing on the slate is going to move the needle for them?

Not suggesting that their line-up is in any way bad, just that there isn't an obvious breakout hit on there that's going to radically change their fortunes over the next 12 months. I mean, Senua's went from being presented as the equivalent of a God Of War-style blockbuster to now being pushed more as a prestige "art" project with some commercial appeal.
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Personally, I've said for a while that I think nothing is going to move the needle. PS is literally unbeatable, and that's why you will not see anyone else enter gaming either. It's a theory Colin even threw out on a podcast with Jaffe recently. PS fans and PS brand strength is so strong now it's basically impossible to change, regardless of what is done. It's practically a religion for Sony fans, like Apple. I felt this way for the last 2 years. Traditional market forces no longer seemed to matter. PS raises prices of games and the system and sales just go up. PS has what I consider to be an extremely underwhelming software line-up, and it breaks records.

Obviously this is the minority opinion, but I thought the MS software line-up was pretty great and some of the huge buzz you see now tells me I wasn't entirely wrong. GP is pretty great and has changed the whole way I am exposed to games, and saves me a ton of money. Both the Series S and X were pretty great and I love the system UI, quick resume, smart delivery, BC games. The last 3 years were probably some of my favorite years in all of gaming. Didn't make a bit of difference though in terms of sales. People could even stay PS focused and buy a dirt cheap Series S and literally not even have to buy the games, but relatively few people would even do that. There's really not much else to do at that point. There is no strategy to win against that honestly.

All that's left now is an explanation of what they are going to do for their current customers.
 
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sendit

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Hopefully, whatever they announce, will make the Xbox family bigger. Come to think of it, I've never actually seen Vin Diesel and Phil Spencer in the same room.

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ChorizoPicozo

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Kurotri said:
Man I'm completely overwhelmed dude the entire forum and the reactions to this on twitter are giving me brain freeze...:messenger_dizzy: What the hell is this, a lot of people saw this coming but it seemingly went from 0 to 100 in the span of a single day. It doesn't feel real.
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I was also surprised by how fast this shit went down. Which makes me believe the xbox situation inside MS was worse than i thought.
 
Stuart360

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Nydius said:
Sorry, there's just too much leaking here for me to believe this. I believe the decision has already been made and that they were planning on gradually conditioning their fans to accept that games were going to go multiplatform, possibly after a timed exclusivity period. It would have started small with Hi-Fi Rush and Sea of Thieves. Then Starfield would have been announced after the DLC released. By their June showing they would have started including language about timed exclusivity for certain titles like Indiana Jones ("Play it First on Xbox", or some such).

I don't expect them to drop hardware immediately a la Dreamcast but, over time, there will be less reason to ever purchase a single Xbox branded piece of hardware.
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Well thats basically what i just said if you read my post again.
 
SenkiDala

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64bitmodels said:
shut the fuck up phil, every time you say something the brand value of Xbox drops
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Honestly I don't think many people really see how this man, little by little, destroyed the image and value of Xbox.

Xbox is still good, if you have an Xbox you have thousands of games to play, you'll be happy. But the lack of vision, of knowing where they go, of doing something, 6 months after doings its contrary, switching again, and again... That's just ridiculous.
 
TheTony316

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IDKFA said:
That confirms it.

If Xbox were going third-party then Phil would have said so in the tweet.

Next week they'll announce two or three games are going to PS and Nintendo, and that's it. No Starfield or Halo on Playstation etc.

Everyone was making a mountain out of a molehill.
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It's the other way around. If the rumors were false he would have denied them by now. He was quick to dismiss the Gamepass to PS/Nintendo rumors from last december. The fact that he's announcing a business event for next week pretty much confirms everything.
 
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Shakka43

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I myself think they are just putting games on other platforms to inject that revenue stream into their game pass catalog. I don't see them leaving the console business just yet.
 
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Stuart360 said:
Feel there will be a lot of tears on here next week when Phil tells us Xbox consoles are going nowhere, and all this ends up being what the orig rumour was, HiFi Rush and Sea of Theives (and possibly other MP or live service centric games) being ported to other consoles.
Possibly the usual 'case by case' message in terms of other games coming to other consoles, maybe 1 year after release on Xbox etc.

But the console is still important to them, Gamepass is still important to them, Gamepass needs hardware, etc, etc.
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It would be easier for you to just assume the worst and be pleasantly surprised.

Don't do this to yourself.
 
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XXL said:
I'll start accepting apologies here. A few people on this forum (including myself) were 100% correct about almost everything.

GamePass killed your fucking ecosystem.
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Yep...

Kind of crazy how atrocious everything from that company has been for a decade. And in this case no hindsight is needed, plenty of us have been saying every step of the way how little faith we had in this plan.

But man, even someone as pessimistic on the Xbox ecosystem as I have been could never have guessed how quickly things would fall apart from that Spencer podcast appearance last year up through today.

Sheer incompetence.
 
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XXL said:
I'll start accepting apologies here. A few people on this forum (including myself) were 100% correct about almost everything.

GamePass killed your fucking ecosystem.
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I have no Photoshop skills, but if I did I'd be making a meme right now with the Game Pass logo over Diana Rigg's face and "Tell Phil. I want him to know it was me."
 
Rat Rage

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So finally Microsoft, the multi-billion dollar behemoth, admits defeat in the console hardware business?

Stay tuned!
 
Nydius

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Stuart360 said:
Well thats basically what i just said if you read my post again.
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I did read your post and you're still arguing that they're only going to do Live Service and "case by case" releases. That isn't going to be the case. They're clearly preparing to move everything to other platforms beginning with Live Service and older games. Then they'll transition into a third party publisher with 6-12 month timed exclusives on Xbox platforms to squeeze what little juice is left out of Game Pass.
 
Ar¢tos

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Punished Miku said:
Personally, I've said for a while that I think nothing is going to move the needle. PS is literally unbeatable, and that's why you will not see anyone else enter gaming either. It's a theory Colin even threw out on a podcast with Jaffe recently. PS fans and PS brand strength is so strong now it's basically impossible to change, regardless of what is done. It's practically a religion for Sony fans, like Apple. I felt this way for the last 2 years. Traditional market forces no longer seemed to matter. PS raises prices of games and the system and sales just go up. PS has what I consider to be an extremely underwhelming software line-up, and it breaks records.

Obviously this is the minority opinion, but I thought the MS software line-up was pretty great and some of the huge buzz you see now tells me I wasn't entirely wrong. GP is pretty great and has changed the whole way I am exposed to games, and saves me a ton of money. Both the Series S and X were pretty great and I love the system UI, quick resume, smart delivery, BC games. The last 3 years were probably some of my favorite years in all of gaming. Didn't make a bit of difference though in terms of sales. People could even stay PS focused and buy a dirt cheap Series S and literally not even have to buy the games, but relatively few people would even do that. There's really not much else to do at that point. There is no strategy to win against that honestly.

All that's left now is an explanation of what they are going to do for their current customers.
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"I'm a victim" and a full advert for Xbox all-in-one!
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