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[Astray]

This game's marketing is weird in its constant insistence on telling me what it's not (why even tell me about the things you scrapped or didn't go for because you don't know you can do right?). You're supposed to focus on the game's strengths, what's good about it etc.

I know FOMO is bad for me as a consumer, but for God's sake Microsoft you're supposed to at least try to make me feel it.

 

[clarky]

This game's marketing is weird in its constant insistence on telling me what it's not (why even tell me about the things you scrapped or didn't go for because you don't know you can do right?). You're supposed to focus on the game's strengths, what's good about it etc.

I know FOMO is bad for me as a consumer, but for God's sake Microsoft you're supposed to at least try to make me feel it.

I think they have done that with what they have released in the 2 or so trailers and the direct. Evem if it looks a bit shit so far.

But because this game does not have the features of Skyrim and BG3 combined the narrative around this game seems to focus on what it isn't.

 

[Little Chicken]

Developer famous for their single player games decides to make a single player game.

Got it.

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

After Parvati's companion quest in Outer Worlds, thank god we will be spared more of Obsidian's "romance".

Still have pretty low expectations for this game, but no romance and no multiplayer sound like positives to me.

 

[semiconscious]

so weird. the game actually feels like those people...

 

[Kacho]

Now we see they also wont support coop.

Literally no one was expecting or asking for co-op with this game. Your other concerns are valid though.

 

[Moochi]

This is what you get when you hire people who want status and a stable job instead of young men who love videogames and will work themselves near to death to prove themselves.

 

[Ozriel]

This game's marketing is weird in its constant insistence on telling me what it's not (why even tell me about the things you scrapped or didn't go for because you don't know you can do right?). You're supposed to focus on the game's strengths, what's good about it etc.

I know FOMO is bad for me as a consumer, but for God's sake Microsoft you're supposed to at least try to make me feel it.

Have you tried to listen to any of the streams or podcasts where these headlines are taken from? its certainly not Obsidian's fault that journalists make these headlines because they know that draws attention.

Why would you call this 'marketing'?

Here's the WindowsCentral article where this was culled from

"If we were going to do romance, we were going to really, really, really do it right — or not at all." Avowed developers talk companions, quests, and more for Obsidian's upcoming Xbox RPG

After speaking with some of the Avowed team leads, my excitement for this RPG is through the roof.

www.windowscentral.com

Here they talk about the depth of their companions feature, including recording a ton of audio for banter, there's confident claims about side quests being as fully fleshed out as the main story and quite a number of other positives. Not exactly their fault someone culls out a nothingburger for a thread here.

 

[Ozriel]

This is what you get when you hire people who want status and a stable job instead of young men who love videogames and will work themselves near to death to prove themselves.

 

[Kacho]

After Parvati's companion quest in Outer Worlds, thank god we will be spared more of Obsidian's "romance".

Still have pretty low expectations for this game, but no romance and no multiplayer sound like positives to me.

Troof. On a surface level the exclusion of online and romance is A-OK.

That said, I'm expecting another ultra mediocre RPG like Outer Worlds. I suspect this was planned for years before the Microsoft acquisition, annd would have been published under the Take-Two AA label Private Division. After Obsidian was acquired by Microsoft, they opted to not cancel the game.

Should this bomb, and Outer Worlds 2 doesn't perform well, I think it might be the end of the road for Obsidian. Their peak years are way behind them unfortunately.

 

[demigod]

Creative decision.

Fixed

 

[Robb]

Sounds good to me!

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

The people jumping for joy at the exclusion of multiplayer will be nowhere to be found when the game sells 1.1 million copies after a year on the market with multiple discounts.

The Virtuous Cycle will not be denied.

 

[MarkMe2525]

Avowed - Is not Skyrim

Feargus Urquhart tells PC Gamer what type of game Avowed is: Avowed started as Obsidian's Skyrim, but evolved to focus on depth over breadth, 'where Obsidian really shines' "We backed up and said again: What are we good at? What's our lane?" When Avowed was first announced with a CGI trailer...

rpgwatch.com

Avowed started as Obsidian's Skyrim, but evolved to focus on depth over breadth, 'where Obsidian really shines'
"We backed up and said again: What are we good at? What's our lane?"

No romances:

No romances = No buy :: Avowed Avowed Gameplay Discussion

Title

steamcommunity.com

VERY Disappointed No Romance Option in Avowed per IGN Interview

Just read in IGN that AGAIN you are not having Romance Options just like in The Outer Worlds and I have to say THAT SUCKS! I own POE 1 and 2, The Outer Worlds & The Outer Worlds (Spacer's Choice Edition), Neverwinter Nights 2, Alpha Protocol on GOG and I "Had" wish-listed Avowed but after thi...

forums.obsidian.net

Avowed Doesn't Have Romances Because It Focuses On Platonic Relationships

With friends like these, who needs romance?

www.thegamer.com

From thegamer article:
Even though it might not be the rival to Skyrim that many of us were hoping for, Obsidian's Avowed is shaping up to be one of the most exciting games of 2024,especially now that we know it's taking a lot of cutes from The Outer Worlds. As excited as most RPG fans are for the game, there is one thing that has seen a bit more of a mixed reception - the lack of romantic relationships.

But yes, please tell me again how 99.999999% of the western civilized world! didnt expect half the shit I MADE UP, when there are articles written about them. Fuckface.

You OK?

 

[Ozriel]

The people jumping for joy at the exclusion of multiplayer will be nowhere to be found when the game sells 1.1 million copies after a year on the market with multiple discounts.

The Virtuous Cycle will not be denied.

Everyone knows the inclusion of multiplayer in Redfall papered over all the cracks and drove it to mass market success

 

[Astray]

I think they have done that with what they have released in the 2 or so trailers and the direct. Evem if it looks a bit shit so far.

But because this game does not have the features of Skyrim and BG3 combined the narrative around this game seems to focus on what it isn't.

I think the art style has taken a very clear turn for the worse. But that's something I don't hold against the devs because that's my problem.

It's yet another time where Microsoft announces things too early and tries to drive hype, then pays for it later when the real world happens and they have to change things.

Have you tried to listen to any of the streams or podcasts where these headlines are taken from? its certainly not Obsidian's fault that journalists make these headlines because they know that draws attention.

Why would you call this 'marketing'?

Here's the WindowsCentral article where this was culled from

"If we were going to do romance, we were going to really, really, really do it right — or not at all." Avowed developers talk companions, quests, and more for Obsidian's upcoming Xbox RPG

After speaking with some of the Avowed team leads, my excitement for this RPG is through the roof.

www.windowscentral.com

Here they talk about the depth of their companions feature, including recording a ton of audio for banter, there's confident claims about side quests being as fully fleshed out as the main story and quite a number of other positives. Not exactly their fault someone culls out a nothingburger for a thread here.

So they should talk more about the bolded? Show a small sidequest to demonstrate what they mean by depth?

Even Redfall knew not to talk about cut content so much. It's Obsidian, no one was expecting anything "large in scope" from them anyways.

What I'm saying is, talk up what exists in the game instead of bringing up things that don't exist in it and weren't ever mentioned before, but this way, they're just making the game look smaller than it might actually be.

 

[bender]

That's the wrong call. Everything's wrong with sticking to what you know and focusing on making the best single player experience you can.

Baldur's Gate 3 is bottom of the barrel when it comes to RPGs (coop or otherwise). Most everything measures up and surpasses that standard.

 

[adamsapple]

That's the wrong call. Everything's wrong with sticking to what you know and focusing on making the best single player experience you can.

Baldur's Gate 3 is bottom of the barrel when it comes to RPGs (coop or otherwise). Most everything measures up and surpasses that standard.

Everything's .. wrong .. with making .. the best single player experience you can ..

 

[bender]

Everything's .. wrong .. with making .. the best single player experience you can ..

 

[Pop]

Co-op is an option is always great. 100%

I don't believe their excuses though

 

[Ozriel]

It's yet another time where Microsoft announces things too early and tries to drive hype, then pays for it later when the real world happens and they have to change things.

When did this happen with Avowed?

So they should talk more about the bolded? Show a small sidequest to demonstrate what they mean by depth?

I shared an article with you just now where they literally talk about the stuff in the game they're proud of.

Even Redfall knew not to talk about cut content so much. It's Obsidian, no one was expecting anything "large in scope" from them anyways.

Where's the 'cut content'? They dropped plans to make the game multiplayer early in development.
It's like arguing the mainline Final Fantasy games are small in scope because they don't have multiplayer.

What I'm saying is, talk up what exists in the game instead of bringing up things that don't exist in it and weren't ever mentioned before, but this way, they're just making the game look smaller than it might actually be.

From the article I shared with you, which you obviously didn't read:

I won't miss this feature and look forward to an epic, single-player fantasy RPG from Obsidian, but I did ask (on behalf of my editor, Jez Corden) if Obsidian ever reconsidered multiplayer in Avowed after seeing the success of Baldur's Gate 3. Patel had a lot to say on the topic.

Are you really complaining because they answered questions posed at them in an interview?

They've been asked about Romance options and now Multiplayer. Were they not supposed to provide an answer?

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

No, you're not joking. But clearly you didn't read the article either.

The MP was dropped a long time ago, this is not new news They already talked about it over a year ago.

Avowed was going to be multiplayer till the devs realised they wanted to make 'an Obsidian game and not something different'

"When you're asking for 50, 60, 70, 80 million you've got to have something interesting to talk about."

www.pcgamer.com

I read what the OP posted.
I'm not always going to go further as detective Bourne.

 

[Ceadeus]

As long as it ressemble nothing like the outer world.

Levels felt stagnant, static, small and empty.

If you look at the bigger picture, in the outer world, you're the only character, beside the enemies, moving around. Other NPcs standing still, watching you looting scraps and whatnot. Looting your 56th ordinary combat knife and 268th health potion.

Like, we've been there before, these games are retarded

 

[nemiroff]

Clickbait in a nutshell. Draugoth got his engagement numbers, but otherwise nothing to see here.

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

Who needed multiplayer in Avowed?