Assassin's Creed: Shadows releases on Steam with CCU of ~65k (highest series launch on the platform)

Predict AC: Shadows Peak CCU

  • Less than 50k

    Votes: 77 33.5%
  • 50k - 100k

    Votes: 122 53.0%
  • 100k - 200k

    Votes: 20 8.7%
  • Above 200k

    Votes: 11 4.8%

  • Total voters
    230
'Charting' is not a very useful indicator unless you have current numbers from something lower in the chart. A game which goes on to be a flop can still easily sell more on its first day than some other more successful game on its eg. tenth day.

This is why Steam peak is discussed so often. It's one data point which is always available and often allows for a direct comparison between how many people were playing game x and game y on their first weekend. There are other factors to keep in mind (gamepass/subscription availability, platform skew, did both games launch on steam etc.), but if the context for game x and game y are similar enough, and if you have sales data/announcements for one of those games, you can use it to make an educated guess at the other.
 
It's been around for a while. I remember looking at CCUs for Skyrim years ago. The game consistently had over 100k players which was pretty cool.

But the current meta where we hyper focus on CCUs is pretty recent. I want to say it started with Cyberpunk but I'm just guessing.
Skyrim is one of the great examples on how a game without a crazy amount of CCU still end up selling a groundbreaking amount over time. The lore, immersive, and mods kept the interest up allowing the game to get over 60 million copies sold as of 2023.

I do think the CCU didn't matter back then as much as now since there's way more PC steam users these days so I definitely expect Elder Scrolls VI to have over 500k CCU at least.
 
All of them except Valhalla because of the EGS deal. Origins and Odyssey were extremely successful on Steam.

Origins and Odyssey were both extremely successful on Steam by your count ..

Shadows has already surpassed Origins' peak CCU.

Ergo Shadows is also extremely successful on Steam by your count.

Thank you for the endorsement Kacho Kacho


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How is Shadows doing in its first week compared to Veilguard? I don't know where I can see the stats.
 
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But 92% of current day PC gaming time is being spent on old games, so it's just the remaining 8% divided between Steam and UPlay who have made this an extremely successful game.

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The results are extrapolated from a yearly in-depth survey of 73,000 players, alongside data from over 10,000 games. From this Newzoo says that the PC market is growing at a steady rate, with an estimated 873.5 million players in 2023 rising to 907.5 million in 2024.

Literally less than 0.01% of the total population took the survey and you thought this could represent the whole story?

Come on now, you are better than this, get some rest, pick a different hill we can have fun tomorrow.
 
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Literally less than 0.01% of the total population took the survey and you thought this could represent the whole story?

Come on now, you are better than this, get some rest, pick a different hill we can have fun tomorrow.

But that's how sample sizes work.

I got our bro Kacho in a Freudian slip and will milk it for all its worth now :messenger_bicep:
 
So it's basically the same as KCD2 which came out almost a month ago and cost 20% as much to make? Maybe it's doing great on PS5?
AC is bread & butter for "normies" (the crowd that mainly plays COD, FIFA, 2K, etc) which skew heavily toward console.

Though, no PS4 version potentially hurt them there. We'll see when it all shakes out in a couple weeks
 
Says the man with worse takes on the forum.

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I disagree

At least my takes are honest bud, I've never made any point to bash, attack or go after any game on here solely based on something OUTSIDE OF THE FUCKING GAME.


That has never happened and I only base what I like, based on what I personally like, not twitter or what someone is saying on youtube or anything even remotely this weird.

If you can find any point I've ever made about a game I'm playing that has a bias, I'd love to hear it..

I've even stated many times, no game is off limits for me to buy, no publisher, no developer or anything strange like this, some of you have openly make comments about publishers or developers you'd never buy from before even playing the game to have any actual points be believed to be honest.

So I play games solely based on if they are fun
 
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The AC shadows stuff makes me think I'm losing my edge. I'm about as anti-woke as it comes but I see gay romance options as meh at this point. Also don't care about historical accuracy in games. I also don't care if I'm a black samurai or not samurai smacking around Asians. Also don't care if things are Chinese and not Japanese. I'm just digging the game. It's even great on steam deck. The worst part is definitely the mentally ill "nonbinary" person. But it's far from dragon age levels of woke.
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The growth of Steam (and PC gamers) is pretty insane to put into perspective like that
Expansion in Asia has been massive. If you consider most gamers are playing in the evenings - say 4pm to 10pm local time (after school/work/etc), peak online users is around 9-10am EST - that's absolute prime time in asia
 
I disagree

At least my takes are honest bud, I've never made any point to bash, attack or go after any game on here solely based on something OUTSIDE OF THE FUCKING GAME.


That has never happened and I only base what I like, based on what I personally like, not twitter or what someone is saying on youtube or anything even remotely this weird.

If you can find any point I've ever made about a game I'm playing that has a bias, I'd love to hear it..

I've even stated many times, no game is off limits for me to buy, no publisher, no developer or anything strange like this, some of you have openly make comments about publishers or developers you'd never buy from before even playing the game to have any actual points be believed to be honest.

So I play games solely based on if they are fun
Honesty and biased aren't mutually exclusive. Like when many people agree CDPR redeemed the catastrophic 2077 launch, you are still fixated at being bitter about it.

It's your feeling, it's honest, but that doesn't make other people having different opinions biased towards the game .

Whether a game is fun is naturally subjective too. Many here thinks Souls games are pinnacle fun while others can't get into it.

At end of the day, those are just options, like I respect your, I don't take lesser of others who think differently.
 
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Origins and Odyssey were both extremely successful on Steam by your count ..

Shadows has already surpassed Origins' peak CCU.
Both games have over 100k reviews. They sold a lot over time, not at launch. Remains to be seen if Shadows can match either game.

Keep in mind, Shadows is the first brand new AC game on Steam in about 7 years. The platform has grown considerably since then. A 55k peak this weekend would be embarrassing.
 
Like when many people agree CDPR redeemed the catastrophic 2077 launch, you are still fixated at being bitter about it.
The game is still missing features and taking 3 years to add an ai to drive and shoot is silly

That isn't "bitter' lol That is logical and merely an opinion.

Never did I fucking say I'd NEVER buy the companies games, I even state I'd buy its sequel and will buy the Witcher remake, merely not day 1.

So..no bias bud.


that doesn't make other people having different opinions biased towards the game .
When those views come from avoiding playing it, it means its irrelevant, it means the view simply can't be trusted.

So...I own CP2077, my view comes from playing the actual game.

Big difference.

Folks are saying they are against this based on shit that has nothing to actually do with the game and views against the publisher, so why would I believe their opinion on a gameplay they never played?

So if someone doesn't play a game and is making some bold statements about its features, gameplay and are sworn against the publisher, those are irrelevant views to me. It means the bias is too much for me to trust what is being stated.

So I'll continue to buy any game that seems fun bud, even CDPRs games.

I play any game that is fun, I don't boycott games or make 100 threads to attack a publisher or a game I never played or anything odd like this. Thats beyond merely an "opinion" at that point.
 
Ur 4090 is over 3x more powerful from base ps5, bro, and we talking pure raster here, if u include dlss and rt performance gap gets even more massive, so ofc it was no brainer to buy/play new AC game on ur topend pc.
Lol I know it's more powerful. I just pick and choose what to play something on based on -feeling- XD

Played RE4R on PS5 because I liked how the dualsense felt with the shooting and I wanted to go for the platinum
 
Both games have over 100k reviews. They sold a lot over time, not at launch. Remains to be seen if Shadows can match either game.

And shadows just came out a day ago, damn bro give it the same kind of time-frame before passing judgement on it :messenger_grinning_sweat:
 
Lol I know it's more powerful. I just pick and choose what to play something on based on -feeling- XD

Played RE4R on PS5 because I liked how the dualsense felt with the shooting and I wanted to go for the platinum
same lol That is how I play Tekken, will buy GTAVI on PS based on this and many more.

I might play the Oblivion remake on PC and of course Doom, so it depends on the game, if it runs fine on PC etc and I own both a 4090 build and a 6950 build and will still buy a lot on PS5
 
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The game is still missing features and taking 3 years to add an ai to drive and shoot is silly

That isn't "bitter' lol That is logical and merely an opinion.

Never did I fucking say I'd NEVER buy the companies games, I even state I'd buy its sequel and will buy the Witcher remake, merely not day 1.

So..no bias bud.



When those views come from avoiding playing it, it means its irrelevant, it means the view simply can't be trusted.

So...I own CP2077, my view comes from playing the actual game.

Big difference.

Folks are saying they are against this based on shit that has nothing to actually do with the game and views against the publisher, so why would I believe their opinion on a gameplay they never played?

So if someone doesn't play a game and is making some bold statements about its features, gameplay and are sworn against the publisher, those are irrelevant views to me. It means the bias is too much for me to trust what is being stated.

So I'll continue to buy any game that seems fun bud, even CDPRs games.

I play any game that is fun, I don't boycott games or make 100 threads to attack a publisher or a game I never played or anything odd like this. Thats beyond merely an "opinion" at that point.
Buying a game doesn't grant you immunity of being biased. Not buying the game doesn't make other people "massively biased either". That's not how it works.

I also own Shadows, and I fucking hate you have to switch characters to unlock some outpost chests, does that make me biased towards playing Yasuke?

My initial point is that, your are entitled to your opinion, and others too. Don't just blindly call people biased, if we all want to be taken seriously.
 
I wasn't bothered by the gay black samurai and lesbian protagonists but I was disheartened by the lack of Puerto Rican representation in the game
 
Imo it's really forced DEI shit in Shadows. Doesn't add any benefits while generates loads of controversies for the "grifters".

It's not what the game about, Avowed is much smart in this regard.

That's the thing. "Woke" is about a dozen different things to different people. Essentially it is all identity politics. Probably the worst thing we could waste our brain cells on, imo. I'm just going to roll my eyes and laugh at the stupid shit someone decided needed to be in these games but as long as I'm having fun I'm going to keep playing.

It's hilarious to see closet-ERA members defending this game :messenger_tears_of_joy: :messenger_tears_of_joy: :messenger_tears_of_joy:

the same posters also defended Outlaws and Veilguard and got their ass steamrolled embarrassingly

Says the guy who was trying to downplay KCD 2's success just yesterday? lol.....you ain't exactly in the best position to judge others my man.
 
For a bit of context and perspective, Steam had 16.7 million users in October 2017, when Assassin's Creed Origins came out, compared to 41.2 million now.

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Yeah these days CCU is usually a good indication on how successful a popular game is with how insanely huge PC has grown and also a lot of console players have made the jump to PC over the years.

Other things factor in like is the game a launch title or is it as late launch title. Is it AA or AAA and how popular is the brand name. All factoring into it.

Veilguard failed with a 90k ccu peak because it was way too little for it's budget and popular brand name and it wasn't a late steam launch so 90k is very weak for it.

Assassin Creed Shadows is another big budget AAA game with a very popular brand name perhaps even more so than Dragon Age and it's also not a late launch so even reaching around 100k would be pretty bad.

Being on game pass or whatever won't actually affect things too much if the game was actually amazing and appealed to a lot of people since people would want to own it/support it like Stalker 2 being at 120k ccu even on gamepass and on a much lower budget and popularity.

FFVII Rebirth being at 42k ccu is alright because it was a very late launch on Steam and it's AAA budget/brand name is probably lower than both Veilguard or Assassin Creed Shadows.

AC Shadows should have been getting over 200k to 300k ccu at least given it's a day 1 launch and a very popularity brand name plus being a huge budget AAA game.

GTA V and Skyrim are from a time where CCU on Steam didn't matter too much but these days with how many more players are on Steam, Elder Scrolls VI and GTA VI should be getting at least 500k ccu and 1 million ccu.
 
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That's the thing. "Woke" is about a dozen different things to different people. Essentially it is all identity politics. Probably the worst thing we could waste our brain cells on, imo. I'm just going to roll my eyes and laugh at the stupid shit someone decided needed to be in these games but as long as I'm having fun I'm going to keep playing.
While absolutely agree and respect the sentiment, I think whether some "progressive elements" are forced into the game or not is where I draw the line. By forcing I mean whether it is really organically implemented in the setting and narrative.
I got the game and the mainframe I know I will have some fun, but I at the same time I will also mock and dunk on the ludicrous craps Ubi put on there.

Maybe I am just not seasoned enough like my old fellow, to enjoy the best the game offers while staying positivity.
 
I also own Shadows, and I fucking hate you have to switch characters to unlock some outpost chests, does that make me biased towards playing Yasuke?

My initial point is that, your are entitled to your opinion, and others too. Don't just blindly call people biased, if we all want to be taken seriously.
never stated anything remotely like that, but at least you own the game, this is a different view point as its not blindly just stating shit against the game.

My point is for those who do not own it, are against the publisher, don't wish to ever play it, but then try to make claims about quality, gameplay features, elements in the game etc.

Those views from my perspective can't be trusted and I've opted to ignore them.

If someone doesn't own the game and is boycotting the publisher or developer etc, that doesn't sound like anyone that can provide an honest answer regarding anything with a game.

So thats just my opinion on it, but I would say that about any game btw. If someone is giving something a 0 and their review has nothing to do with gaming and they are saying they are cancelling the publisher, petition, boycott anything like this, I'm not sure why you think that is the view point I'd use to buy a game or not.
 
AC Shadows should have been getting over 200k to 300k ccu at least given it's a day 1 launch and a very popularity brand name plus being a huge budget AAA game.
It absolutely should be up in that range all things considered. Ubisoft rolled out the red carpet on Steam with this release too — Steam achievements, no stand-alone Uplay requirement, Steam Deck Verified…
 
That's the thing. "Woke" is about a dozen different things to different people. Essentially it is all identity politics. Probably the worst thing we could waste our brain cells on, imo. I'm just going to roll my eyes and laugh at the stupid shit someone decided needed to be in these games but as long as I'm having fun I'm going to keep playing.

I very much agree with you here and I don't really have a horse in this race, I play whatever game I find to pique my interest. However, I think Shadows kind of brought this sort of discourse upon itself because not only is Yasuke black, he's also a very modern version of a black person. He looks like an NBA player in feudal japan, so it does give in some strong Black Knight vibes. So the least naive part of me thinks this game isn't woke per se, but rather it goes for any publicity is good publicity. Wouldn't be a first with Ubisoft considering Far Cry 5 or Wildlands.
 
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KCD2 is irrelevant, barely AA game, if you want to claim it a success i could care less

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While absolutely agree and respect the sentiment, I think whether some "progressive elements" are forced into the game or not is where I draw the line. By forcing I mean whether it is really organically implemented in the setting and narrative.
I got the game and the mainframe I know I will have some fun, but I at the same time I will also mock and dunk on the ludicrous craps Ubi put on there.

Mock and dunk away brother. Even if we don't see eye to eye on the controversy of the day doesn't mean you can't say what you think. And don't get me wrong. If Sony rebooted God of War with a female or trans Kratos then I'll burn this place to the ground, by God. But this stuff.....nah, not bothered. That's just me tho.

Maybe I am just not seasoned enough like my old fellow, to enjoy the best the game offers while staying positivity.

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It absolutely should be up in that range all things considered. Ubisoft rolled out the red carpet on Steam with this release too — Steam achievements, no stand-alone Uplay requirement, Steam Deck Verified…
lol yea i don't know about all that.

I think that the establish base of AC fans are set, I don't know if you'll ever see those number reach that on Steam as the majority who play this IP, do not do so on PC.

Again, look at Call Of Duty. You can do the best job, make the best game, with the greatest quality you can and you'll still see the majority on console. I mean, some of us own gaming PCs and PS5s and some of us on here literally stated we choose to buy it on PS5 instead.

I bought it on PS5 based on preferring the IP on that system. Playstation is what I know it from, that is where I'll likely continue to play it. I'm sure lots of things have been done better for stuff like Tekken, Monster Hunter and I'm sure even COD is great quality on PC, but like many, I will continue to buy those IP where I'm use to them and enjoy them most.

Its sorta like thinking something is wrong with an RTS that fails on PS or something, maybe that IP's fans exist else where, not that anything is wrong with the game.
 
lol yea i don't know about all that.

I think that the establish base of AC fans are set, I don't know if you'll ever see those number reach that on Steam as the majority who play this IP, do not do so on PC.

Again, look at Call Of Duty. You can do the best job, make the best game, with the greatest quality you can and you'll still see the majority on console. I mean, some of us own gaming PCs and PS5s and some of us on here literally stated we choose to buy it on PS5 instead.

I bought it on PS5 based on preferring the IP on that system. Playstation is what I know it from, that is where I'll likely continue to play it. I'm sure lots of things have been done better for stuff like Tekken, Monster Hunter and I'm sure even COD is great quality on PC, but like many, I will continue to buy those IP where I'm use to them and enjoy them most.

Its sorta like thinking something is wrong with an RTS that fails on PS or something, maybe that IP's fans exist else where, not that anything is wrong with the game.
This is pure damage control. Odyssey and Origins sold just fine on PC regardless of what the games sold on consoles. Ubisoft torpedoed their reputation in a number of ways and earned the ire of PC players in recent years. The moronic creative decisions for Shadows only exasperates the issue and we're seeing the results in real time.
 
I very much agree with you here and I don't really have a horse in this race, I play whatever game I find to pique my interest. However, I think Shadows kind of brought this sort of discourse upon itself because not only is Yasuke black, he's also a very modern version of a black person. He looks like an NBA player in feudal japan, so it does give in some strong Black Knight vibes. So the least naive part of me thinks this game isn't woke per se, but rather it goes for any publicity is good publicity. Wouldn't be a first with Ubisoft considering Far Cry 5 or Wildlands.

Perhaps. Character design could be a part of the problem. That was also the case with Outlaws. I was a huge critic of the main character (forgot her name) especially when the actress she was based on what was gorgeous. I do think the issue with Shadows is nearly entirely based on skin color, but it could have been lessoned with a more well thought-out design. Or if they used an actual actor as the basis. Someone like a Anthony Mackie. Might have made it more relatable. Hard to say.
 
Depends on who you ask
Sure, especially online. But i was surprised that the usual "anti-woke" YTubers were pushing back at people trying to identify Split Fiction as woke.

I think shadows is just as bad or even worse than The Vailguard.

the idea of "Authentic Representation" went from trans/no binary in the Vailguard to the history and culture of an entire country with shadows. Of course both failed miserably at this.It was so bad with Shadows that even Yves had to make a statement about it. (the game was not even out)

And, of course, the financial context of both games. With Shadows, the narrative is that this game will either save Ubisoft or expedite its downfall. With The Vailguard, it was just about BioWare's future

and as a video game, I think Shadows is your average Ubisoft game; nothing special or exceptional. big, bloated and by the numbers; a forgettable experience... which represents what Ubisoft is or has become.

Regardless if what anti-woke is, the internet army is destroying this game. it will feel like another rare "incel victory".
 
So thats just my opinion on it, but I would say that about any game btw. If someone is giving something a 0 and their review has nothing to do with gaming and they are saying they are cancelling the publisher, petition, boycott anything like this, I'm not sure why you think that is the view point I'd use to buy a game or not.
Not many in thread are what you described, you are overative to a strawman you made yourself. Nobody is bored enough to have the energy to petition, come on now.

Even if there were some those extreme trolls, the mod are doing pretty good job.
 
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Mock and dunk away brother. Even if we don't see eye to eye on the controversy of the day doesn't mean you can't say what you think. And don't get me wrong. If Sony rebooted God of War with a female or trans Kratos then I'll burn this place to the ground, by God. But this stuff.....nah, not bothered. That's just me tho.



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Nah, I think 99% of time we see each eye to eye. The only 1% time is when my old fellow's lightning fast reflection cannot keep up with my memes.
 
This is pure damage control. Odyssey and Origins sold just fine on PC regardless of what the games sold on consoles. Ubisoft torpedoed their reputation in a number of ways and earned the ire of PC players in recent years. The moronic creative decisions for Shadows only exasperates the issue and we're seeing the results in real time.
? huh...I mean...this literally has the 2nd highest CCU for launch of a AC game and its only been a few days.....

This isn't "damage control" , this is merely factually telling you majority do not play this IP on PC

Nobody is bored enough to have the energy to petition, come on now.

Even if there were some those extreme trolls, the mod are doing pretty good job.
lol several petitions existed regarding this game and I'm not talking about this forum

I merely mean in general, so yea I would be talking about extremes trolls.
 
Sure, especially online. But i was surprised that the usual "anti-woke" YTubers were pushing back at people trying to identify Split Fiction as woke.

I think shadows is just as bad or even worse than The Vailguard.

the idea of "Authentic Representation" went from trans/no binary in the Vailguard to the history and culture of an entire country with shadows. Of course both failed miserably at this.It was so bad with Shadows that even Yves had to make a statement about it. (the game was not even out)

And, of course, the financial context of both games. With Shadows, the narrative is that this game will either save Ubisoft or expedite its downfall. With The Vailguard, it was just about BioWare's future

and as a video game, I think Shadows is your average Ubisoft game; nothing special or exceptional. big, bloated and by the numbers; a forgettable experience... which represents what Ubisoft is or has become.

Regardless if what anti-woke is, the internet army is destroying this game. it will feel like another rare "incel victory".

Veilguard was on another level to me. I don't usually get fired up about this stuff, but Veilguard pissed me off because it was dang near propaganda with that who "pull a barve" bullshit. And as a Dragon Age fan, it had no resemblance to the franchise except for a couple of holdover characters. They just flatout ruined that game.

Shadows is fine. Yasuke has been done tons of times. I've got no issue with it. Others do.....that's fine. I don't have to get it. The non binary gay scene looks cringe as hell tho, I have to say.

Either way, I'll agree with you that the controversy ain't doing the game or Ubisoft any favors.

Nah, I think 99% of time we see each eye to eye. The only 1% time is when my old fellow's lightning fast reflection cannot keep up with my memes.

Shit bro.....I gave up trying to keep up with you. You're a gotdang meme factory.
 
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