Has Nintendo inverted its fortune?

Azelover

Azelover

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I couldn't find the exact quote, but I remember Hiroshi Yamauchi(former Nintendo president) saying that the gaming industry is about reversals of fortune.

Do you think this has happened here? They started Switch 2 with the wrong foot. This usually doesn't bode well for most of the time.

I'm not saying they're doomed. I'm just suggesting it's a situation that is usually hard to turn around.
 
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I think there's no where near the negative buzz with switch 2 there was with Wii u or Xbox one

Xbox one was near unanimous negativity whereas switch 2 buzz is positive impressions, negative prices
 
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People just don't get sick of making same type of threads over and over again?
 
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If the console only was a Switch with 2x the CPU and GPU clock and double de ram and cost $399 you guys would be happy? This is mega hilarious.
 
No, but in a few years when "who is surprised Switch 2 is a huge success" is the average comment, we will bump this thread for amusement.

For the record, when you look back at this, I knew the Switch 2 would be a massive success the whole time. I can see the forest for the trees and I don't get easily swept up in emotions so it's not even a weird guess for me. It is just what is going to happen.

You may look at the new comments I have posted then and know they will be the same.
 
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Codes 208 said:
Another day, another "is nintendo doomed?" Thread
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Don't you miss all the "When is the Switch 2 going to be announced" threads? lol

Also, imagine this board when the next PS and Xbox are announced lol. Think of this as practice
 
nordique said:
I think there's no where near the negative buzz with switch 2 there was with Wii u or Xbox one

Xbox one was near unanimous negativity whereas switch 2 buzz is positive impressions, negative prices
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The xbox one was purely anti-consumer in every conceivable way from drm and forced kinect (and charging more than the more powerful twin hd console)

I think some people here have conveniently forgot about that to chime how the switch 2 is doomed, but like no? This isnt a ps3 "$599" scenario. Its not a xbox one scenario and its most certainly not a wii who scenario.
 
Nothing a pricedrop wouldn't fix next year (if/when Trump reverses from being senile, even Pres Ronnie Reagan was vehemently anti-tariff).
 
OP, in Japan alone Nintendo is probably going to sell more than 35 millions of consoles… Do the maths.
 
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Disagreed, the hardware itself looks excellent and the price seems very good to me (this is coming from someone who was very disappointed with steam deck)

Now software pricing on the other hand...
 
Even without all the stepping on rakes messaging going on, they were less likely to hit the success of the first Switch due to just being priced higher and a lot of crossgen games. Still wildly successful, just less so. In the end Nintendo fans want those Nintendo titles - they'll hold their noses while throwing out buckets of cash just like we saw with the Pokemon games.
 
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seething left said:
It will sell worse than the original Switch, but better than any other console.
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Uh...how does that even work? PS2's at 160 million, the DS is at 155 million. How can it sell worst than Switch (154 million) but better than PS2?

Otherwise, to the question: no. Switch 2 will still do very well, it might just tap out around 100 - 120 million lifetime instead of the Switch's number. But that's assuming there are no other major downsides with the platform, the games deliver, and there isn't a global recession or depression.

Because if so then the ceiling might be closer to 80 - 100 million, which is still great, but a notable decline...in hardware units sold. Actual revenue & profits could be as high or much higher than during the Switch era, plus remember Nintendo's doing more transmedia stuff too.

A high-quality Zelda anime to go alongside a new mainline Zelda would set the world on fire (in a good way) just as a simple example.
 
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Nintendo's claimed the price isn't taking tariffs into consideration. Best you can hope for is the Lite model is decently cheaper.
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I'm saying if the sales are a bust, they will lower prices just like they did the 3DS. They will have to eat the loss just like they did with 3DS. I think the Lite 2 will fail if that's the way they "lower" the pricing (worse screen, maybe smaller storage). It is sounding like Canada will also get the tariff'ed pricing even if there aren't tariffs there to prevent crossborder discount shoppers. That will surely depress the Canadian market. Nintendo made a huge mistake launching post-Trump.
 
thicc_girls_are_teh_best said:
Uh...how does that even work? PS2's at 160 million, the DS is at 155 million. How can it sell worst than Switch (154 million) but better than PS2?

Otherwise, to the question: no. Switch 2 will still do very well, it might just tap out around 100 - 120 million lifetime instead of the Switch's number. But that's assuming there are no other major downsides with the platform, the games deliver, and there isn't a global recession or depression.

Because if so then the ceiling might be closer to 80 - 100 million, which is still great, but a notable decline...in hardware units sold. Actual revenue & profits could be as high or much higher than during the Switch era, plus remember Nintendo's doing more transmedia stuff too.

A high-quality Zelda anime to go alongside a new mainline Zelda would set the world on fire (in a good way) just as a simple example.
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Switch lifetime is likely to pass PS2, but I don't think Switch 2 will.
 
RoboFu said:
You guys act like you didn't say the exact same things when the switch was releasing. :messenger_tears_of_joy:
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No. Switch had positive reaction. It was the arrival of the long-rumoured hybrid concept and the combination of the handheld and console.

There was no negativity surrounded the Switch before or after launch. Prices were good as well.
 
Azelover said:
I couldn't find the exact quote, but I remember Hiroshi Yamauchi(former Nintendo president) saying that the gaming industry is about reversals of fortune.

Do you think this has happened here? They started Switch 2 with the wrong foot. This usually doesn't bode well for most of the time.

I'm not saying they're doomed. I'm just suggesting it's a situation that is usually hard to turn around.
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How have they "started...on wrong foot"? Looks like pre-orders are so far strong and likely will be sold out tomorrow in the U.S. within hours.
 
Nah, we cannot compare Switch 2 with, for example , Xbox One or Wii U.

Everything was wrong with Xbox One reveal... and Nintendo is still trying today (of course not, but you got the idea to sell to themselves the WiiU concept :-D).
 
No. A few dweebs on the internet crying about meaningless, nothing ass shit like oled screens and achievements will not make this thing another Wii U.
MKW being $80 is the literal lone problem rn with the Switch 2.
 
Azelover said:
I couldn't find the exact quote, but I remember Hiroshi Yamauchi(former Nintendo president) saying that the gaming industry is about reversals of fortune.

Do you think this has happened here? They started Switch 2 with the wrong foot. This usually doesn't bode well for most of the time.

I'm not saying they're doomed. I'm just suggesting it's a situation that is usually hard to turn around.
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I'm not saying Nintendo is doomed, but can Nintendo become un-doomed? As currently Nintendo is doomed.

Switch 2 looks great and is fine.
 
alphachino said:
No. Switch had positive reaction. It was the arrival of the long-rumoured hybrid concept and the combination of the handheld and console.

There was no negativity surrounded the Switch before or after launch. Prices were good as well.
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The Switch's negative reaction back upon its reveal is so legendary we are still mocking it to this day
 
Impossible to say until the general public is introduced to it I think.

The problem for the WiiU wasn't negative buzz, it was that there was no buzz at all.

And the 3DS was deemed too expensive after being on the market for up to 6 months.

I don't think the discourse going on now will have any effect. It's all down to how 'casuals' (people that don't tune in to stuff like Nintendo Directs etc.) react to and value the product when they see it on a store shelf.
 
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No, while the prices are higher than I'd like, they are still reasonable to me. I passed on the Wii U because I had a Wii and hated it. The Wii U barely looked like an upgrade to me at the time. I loved the Switch and this improves it to PS4 level visuals for me. I'm thrilled by that. I think it will probably sell around 100MM units. They can always do price cuts if demand is softer.
 
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