CompleteGlobalSaturation
Member
This game deserves some recognition and love.
Looks and plays beautiful.
Looks and plays beautiful.
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Metal Eden Demo - download it, it's awesome
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ClanOfNone
Member
This is pretty good!
I feel like demos are making a bit of a comeback, there's been some good ones lately.
I feel like demos are making a bit of a comeback, there's been some good ones lately.
BossLackey
Gold Member
Damn, that does look sick!
Downloading
Downloading
coachmcguirk91
Member
I'm not sure if it is motion blur or what, but moving around quickly does need feel good at all
BossLackey
Gold Member
I'm part of the problem. I know most people hate it...but...I actually like it (I'm sorry)
ClanOfNone
Member
My old man eyes are apparently immune to chromatic aberration, feel like I don't even see a difference in most games where you can turn it on and off.
CompleteGlobalSaturation
Member
You can turn it off but it only becomes prominent when you consume a core.
ultrazilla
Gold Member
I always turn off chromatic abberation and motion blur as soon as I start a game for the first time.
VeganElduderino
Member
looks cool , downloading now
GiantFaceBoss
Neo Member
Hey all, first post here since my account finally got approved 
Gave this demo a shot on PS5 Pro and, while I definitely enjoyed it, I found this build to have a few too many polish and game feel issues that prevent it from being a day 1 purchase.
Let's start with what works:
- The gunplay isn't exceptional but the guns look cool and feel satisfying to shoot. Hit feedback on enemies is also solid enough and I found myself quickly getting into a rhythm during arena fights. Not top-tier in the genre but pretty good. I picked the chain charge shot upgrade on the magnum pistol and that was cool, although the vfx and sound when letting it fly could both stand to be a bit punchier imo.
- Mobility options allow you to quickly dash around enemies and gain the high ground to blast them from above. You can grapple, wall run, and use bounce pads to reposition and grab pickups around the maps. It's obvious that both DOOM 2016 and DOOM Eternal were the main inspirations here, with a push-forward style of combat that rewards you for being aggressive. From what I've seen the skill tree upgrades should only make things cooler as you progress, with abilities like jetpack hovering added to the mix.
- The game's defining mechanic is your ability to rip the core out of enemies and then use it offensively or as a resource to buff yourself. You can either chuck it back at enemies like a grenade or consume it to regain health and buff your melee. There are a bunch more upgrades in the skill tree dedicated to ripping cores, with things like movement speed buffs and turning enemies into AoE bombs when you rip out their cores. I found ripping cores to be fun and snappy, adding a bit of decision making on the fly during encounters since there's a pretty lengthy cooldown before you can do it again.
- Some enemies also have armor that you need to break before their core becomes exposed; hitting them with a melee will both stagger them and make their armor vulnerable to damage, so you're encouraged to get in there instead of just hanging back all the time. You also get a one-time super punch that can wreck armor after consuming a core.
- Enemies were fine overall in this demo but nothing too special. I played on Brutal difficulty and the game felt fair and well-tuned. It's not as intense as something like DOOM Eternal on Nightmare but the enemies were dynamic enough to pressure you and keep you on the move.
- I generally like the artstyle but it's very derivative and lacks its own identity. They try to ape the Ghost in the Shell intro sequence and it just fell completely flat since the MC just doesn't look very appealing. Not a big deal though.
- Music wasn't bad. It works and fits the pace but none of the demo tracks were outstanding or anything.
Now the bad:
- Framerate is very inconsistent and the game is plagued with stuttering whenever it switches to pre-rendered story cutscenes. For a game that leans heavily on its aesthetics and vibe, this is a major blemish. There's also minor hitching happening during traversal and when navigating menus. The default quality mode is super choppy in some of the larger combat arenas and performance mode didn't feel smooth either, mainly because the v-sync toggle didn't seem to work properly in that mode.
- The implementation of the acceleration curve on the right analog stick is downright awful and makes the game feel extremely sluggish to control. The main problem is that it seems to take a second or so before acceleration kicks in and your character starts to rotate at a decent speed. The slower acceleration you get before this happens makes both looking around and aiming feel super sticky and unsatisfying. There aren't any options to tweak this either, so this is 100% something they need to fix before I consider buying the full version.
I honestly don't understand how you can make a first-person shooter nowadays and not focus on getting the controls right... It's such a bummer whenever an otherwise decent game has these kinds of issues; I can only imagine the PC version with mouse and keyboard controls received most of the attention during development.
- The weapon wheel implementation on controller is poor compared to something like DOOM 2016 or Eternal; I just couldn't reliably quick swap to the pistol in the upper right diagonal slot of the weapon wheel. It also takes a bit too long to bring up the wheel, so the game pace ends up slowing down whenever you switch weapons since you can't just "flick switch" like in those games.
- Sound design in general felt unfinished, with missing voice acting and sound effects in some cutscenes. The script and localization are also both rough around the edges, with awkward lines and plenty of spelling errors and inconsistencies.
Hopefully this demo is an early build and the final version fixes most of these problems since I did enjoy the game overall and would love to support the devs. I had a good time with their previous game, Ruiner. With DOOM The Dark Ages out within a few weeks of Metal Eden though, they'll need to do a bit better than this demo unless the price is in the $40 range. Curious to hear how the game runs and controls on PC since there's a good chance it'll be significantly less problematic on that platform.
Gave this demo a shot on PS5 Pro and, while I definitely enjoyed it, I found this build to have a few too many polish and game feel issues that prevent it from being a day 1 purchase.
Let's start with what works:
- The gunplay isn't exceptional but the guns look cool and feel satisfying to shoot. Hit feedback on enemies is also solid enough and I found myself quickly getting into a rhythm during arena fights. Not top-tier in the genre but pretty good. I picked the chain charge shot upgrade on the magnum pistol and that was cool, although the vfx and sound when letting it fly could both stand to be a bit punchier imo.
- Mobility options allow you to quickly dash around enemies and gain the high ground to blast them from above. You can grapple, wall run, and use bounce pads to reposition and grab pickups around the maps. It's obvious that both DOOM 2016 and DOOM Eternal were the main inspirations here, with a push-forward style of combat that rewards you for being aggressive. From what I've seen the skill tree upgrades should only make things cooler as you progress, with abilities like jetpack hovering added to the mix.
- The game's defining mechanic is your ability to rip the core out of enemies and then use it offensively or as a resource to buff yourself. You can either chuck it back at enemies like a grenade or consume it to regain health and buff your melee. There are a bunch more upgrades in the skill tree dedicated to ripping cores, with things like movement speed buffs and turning enemies into AoE bombs when you rip out their cores. I found ripping cores to be fun and snappy, adding a bit of decision making on the fly during encounters since there's a pretty lengthy cooldown before you can do it again.
- Some enemies also have armor that you need to break before their core becomes exposed; hitting them with a melee will both stagger them and make their armor vulnerable to damage, so you're encouraged to get in there instead of just hanging back all the time. You also get a one-time super punch that can wreck armor after consuming a core.
- Enemies were fine overall in this demo but nothing too special. I played on Brutal difficulty and the game felt fair and well-tuned. It's not as intense as something like DOOM Eternal on Nightmare but the enemies were dynamic enough to pressure you and keep you on the move.
- I generally like the artstyle but it's very derivative and lacks its own identity. They try to ape the Ghost in the Shell intro sequence and it just fell completely flat since the MC just doesn't look very appealing. Not a big deal though.
- Music wasn't bad. It works and fits the pace but none of the demo tracks were outstanding or anything.
Now the bad:
- Framerate is very inconsistent and the game is plagued with stuttering whenever it switches to pre-rendered story cutscenes. For a game that leans heavily on its aesthetics and vibe, this is a major blemish. There's also minor hitching happening during traversal and when navigating menus. The default quality mode is super choppy in some of the larger combat arenas and performance mode didn't feel smooth either, mainly because the v-sync toggle didn't seem to work properly in that mode.
- The implementation of the acceleration curve on the right analog stick is downright awful and makes the game feel extremely sluggish to control. The main problem is that it seems to take a second or so before acceleration kicks in and your character starts to rotate at a decent speed. The slower acceleration you get before this happens makes both looking around and aiming feel super sticky and unsatisfying. There aren't any options to tweak this either, so this is 100% something they need to fix before I consider buying the full version.
I honestly don't understand how you can make a first-person shooter nowadays and not focus on getting the controls right... It's such a bummer whenever an otherwise decent game has these kinds of issues; I can only imagine the PC version with mouse and keyboard controls received most of the attention during development.
- The weapon wheel implementation on controller is poor compared to something like DOOM 2016 or Eternal; I just couldn't reliably quick swap to the pistol in the upper right diagonal slot of the weapon wheel. It also takes a bit too long to bring up the wheel, so the game pace ends up slowing down whenever you switch weapons since you can't just "flick switch" like in those games.
- Sound design in general felt unfinished, with missing voice acting and sound effects in some cutscenes. The script and localization are also both rough around the edges, with awkward lines and plenty of spelling errors and inconsistencies.
Hopefully this demo is an early build and the final version fixes most of these problems since I did enjoy the game overall and would love to support the devs. I had a good time with their previous game, Ruiner. With DOOM The Dark Ages out within a few weeks of Metal Eden though, they'll need to do a bit better than this demo unless the price is in the $40 range. Curious to hear how the game runs and controls on PC since there's a good chance it'll be significantly less problematic on that platform.
Solarstrike
Member
Thanks OP, will download this one. Looks good!
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MagusMajul
Member
The music is terrible, killing bloodless robots in sanitized pg-13 violence? I think I will pass
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TerribleAtThisGame
Member
I'm jaded as all hell, I admit that, but the aesthetic turned me off right off the bat. I'm personally so burnt out on this ultra-generic Sci-Fi FPS look, the demo kind of depressed me lol.
For all the sane people here, it seems very competent and fun gameplay-wise, just not my cup.
For all the sane people here, it seems very competent and fun gameplay-wise, just not my cup.
manfestival
Member
Sick nasty
balls of snow
Gold Member
Yeah its on my list to play for the year. Looks sick as hell.
Complistic
Member
It's Chinese Doom at home basically.
Kusarigama
Member
It looks really really good, excited for this one. The demo is for out for PS5 too along with PC and xbox.
Dr. Samuel Hayden
Member
Played it on PS5. The framerate and especially the camera acceleration are game-killing, especially in a fast FPS like this.
Edit: Actually, I don't think it's just the acceleration. Even with sensitivity cranked all the way up the initial aim before acceleration kicks in feels way too sluggish. It's a mess. Shame as the game does feel like the has potential besides these extremely glaring issues.
Edit: Actually, I don't think it's just the acceleration. Even with sensitivity cranked all the way up the initial aim before acceleration kicks in feels way too sluggish. It's a mess. Shame as the game does feel like the has potential besides these extremely glaring issues.
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AutumnLeaves
Member
Really enjoyed the demo, thanks for the heads up. Will get the game in May.
Fbh
Gold Member
Damn that was sadly a bit disappointing.
It can be fun, I like the aesthetic and how it encourages you to move around and get close the the enemy. The "core" removal and absorption mechanic is pretty cool too.
But it has heavy performance drops on PS5, the weird camera acceleration just feels very awkward and I sometimes found it hard to see what was happening because of super heavy motion blur and typical Unreal Engine smearing and image breakup.
If they can improve performance, add an option to disable motion blur and add an option to disable the uneven camera acceleration I might get it later on.
It can be fun, I like the aesthetic and how it encourages you to move around and get close the the enemy. The "core" removal and absorption mechanic is pretty cool too.
But it has heavy performance drops on PS5, the weird camera acceleration just feels very awkward and I sometimes found it hard to see what was happening because of super heavy motion blur and typical Unreal Engine smearing and image breakup.
If they can improve performance, add an option to disable motion blur and add an option to disable the uneven camera acceleration I might get it later on.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
I've been looking forward to this game for yeeaaarrrrs - it got delayed for a really, really long time... so long, that I thought it got cancelled. It's previous title was Final Form, and it was due out like... 3 years ago? Something like that. Yeah.
Super excited.
Super excited.
Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
Man, what a fantastic alternative to almost unrecognizable DOOM which went the wrong way in terms of design. Love almost everything about it from what I've played (decided not to play further after the intro mission cuz I'm going to buy the game anyway).
Performance on PC though is anything but stable, there's no shader compilation at the start and you know what it means in UE5 games. Hopefully, they'll fix performance issues and add a shader compilation step before launch.
Performance on PC though is anything but stable, there's no shader compilation at the start and you know what it means in UE5 games. Hopefully, they'll fix performance issues and add a shader compilation step before launch.
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TrebleShot
Member
How about bloom and DOF?
Punished Miku
Human Rights Subscription Service
They're Polish. Previously made Ruiner.
HeisenbergFX4
Member
Pro enhanced as well
Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
Downloading now on the X. Keen to check it out. I've been on a boomer shooter run lately.
Camper182
Gold Member
And dropping frames left and right, unfortunately
Branded
Member
What kind of FPS would you like?
Buggy Loop
Gold Member
Cert.in.Death
Member
Most immediate comp I can come up with is to Sprawl but with a bit more graphical polish.
Unsure if that portends good things since Sprawl is a clinical mixed-bag experience, but I'm hopeful.
Unsure if that portends good things since Sprawl is a clinical mixed-bag experience, but I'm hopeful.
Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
Changed from quality mode to performance and really enjoy the visual, art, gameplay. Yep, I'm in after 25mins worth of the demo.
Nicely done and well polished. Feels like an updated Japanese Sci-Fi DOOM romp with a flavouring of Ghost in the Shell. Good stuff.
Nicely done and well polished. Feels like an updated Japanese Sci-Fi DOOM romp with a flavouring of Ghost in the Shell. Good stuff.
vaibhavpisal
Member
Looks cool.
On my radar on full release.
On my radar on full release.
drotahorror
Member
Why?
The devs made Ruiner prior to this and that was amazing. I'm excited to check out the demo but sounds like it's a complete mess. Shader comp, post effects always on, and shitty controls, no rebinding etc.
TrebleShot
Member
Never heard of it, tried it now on PC, plays like a dream, really really cool aesthetic and music, some unfinished audio but yeah I love this, Im all in.
Doom meets Stellar Blade and Ghostrunner.
Doom meets Stellar Blade and Ghostrunner.
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Dr. Samuel Hayden
Member
Tried it on my PC and it was even worse than on PS5 lol. I think they should consider a delay, this needs a lot more polish.