(Capcom fiscal year report 2024) PC now majority of Capcom's digital game sales, beats consoles
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SILKYSMOOTH30FPS
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I like Capcom, but they don't deserve their success when they release slop such as DD2 and Wilds. And i'd like to say that maybe it's time they begin optimizing for pc, but that would be wishful thnking.
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Shubh_C63
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Even more impressive then. They can release unoptimized PC games and yet people desperately wants to play those.
Black_Stride
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It was almost 2:1 now PC is in the lead 10 million clear?
Who buys a PS5 when you can have a Switch and a PC?
For our one eyed friends the Switch probably isnt even necessary.
Just get a PC and call it a day.
They are holding it back because they know people are gonna rebuy the game on PC once it releases.
Theyve clocked us.
<---Not me, didnt even play GTAV till the nextgen version game out....just acted like it never released.
Who buys a PS5 when you can have a Switch and a PC?
For our one eyed friends the Switch probably isnt even necessary.
Just get a PC and call it a day.
They are holding it back because they know people are gonna rebuy the game on PC once it releases.
Theyve clocked us.
<---Not me, didnt even play GTAV till the nextgen version game out....just acted like it never released.
SILKYSMOOTH30FPS
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DD2 was super anticipated by fans for over 10 years, so no matter how well it's running, everyone who liked DD1 bought it. Kinda the same for Wilds, it's been ages since a main MH entry was released. I feel bad for buying both, but at the same time, there is no way i was gonna skip em, i had to taste them, and what a slop these were.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Open world RE Engine games run like shit.
That engine wasnt designed for them and they really should have gone back to MT Framework for them.
Pretty much every other RE Engine game runs great on PC.
DenchDeckard
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More and more publishers will be seeing this trend.
Sony could have benefitted from Xbox literally throwing in the towel but we haven't seen any real evidence of it so far. Maybe next years numbers will show a shift from Xbox to PS.
Sony could have benefitted from Xbox literally throwing in the towel but we haven't seen any real evidence of it so far. Maybe next years numbers will show a shift from Xbox to PS.
Loomy
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Tens of millions of people who want to play games that do not release on Switch and do not have or cannot afford a PC capable of running modern games.
I think we're at least year or 2 out from seeing how this shakes out to be honest. I'm guessing the numbers will show PC growing faster than PS over the next little while.
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SILKYSMOOTH30FPS
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Yea i know. But so many people were in denial, telling themselves that everything shown about Wilds is an old build, and that the final game will be a massive step up. What a mistake, and it's like they haven't learned from DD2.
laynelane
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I don't think this is a trend. The article is talking about digital sales only, not all sales. It makes sense that PC would lead in digital sales, considering that is the only option, for many titles.
mckmas8808
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Guilty_AI
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A pc capable of running modern games isn't that expensive. What they cannot afgord is a PC that runs everything at 4k ultra 144fps.
Second news story had some physical vs. digital splits.
Estimating 54M sales for 2025, with 6% physical share (3.3M). Assuming PC is ~100% digital and similar 60/40% split, console is 54*0.4=21.6M total sales, 3.3/21.6M = ~15.77% physical. Physical is disappearing, and fast.
Estimating 54M sales for 2025, with 6% physical share (3.3M). Assuming PC is ~100% digital and similar 60/40% split, console is 54*0.4=21.6M total sales, 3.3/21.6M = ~15.77% physical. Physical is disappearing, and fast.
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laynelane
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I didn't realize Capcom had formulated a strategy to push the majority of their sales towards digital. It makes sense from their perspective to do so (financially) and it appears to be working. I'm just glad they still offer the choice between physical and digital and hope they continue to do so.
Black_Stride
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So the options are PC, Switch, PS5, XSX???
Baemono
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Yes but what do you buy exactly ?
When I want a PS5, I have 3 options, when I want a Switch, I have 3 options, when I want a Steam Deck, I have 3 options, but if I want a PC, I have absolutely no idea where to start, what should I buy, what do I need, etc. PC isn't straightforward.
DonkeyPunchJr
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The trend is the growth of digital sales on PC + stagnation on consoles.
Mibu no ookami
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Kind of wild to compare digital PC vs digital console while leaving out physical as if it doesn't draw a massive amount of sales away from digital... and you can see it in their slides...
Not only misleading article, but misleading by the OP... no surprise there considering who the OP is.
10% of Capcom's sales are physical units.
It is worth noting that the overall has shifted dramatically to PC, but none of that matters without some context, i.e. flagging Switch and Xbox sales in the last few years (yes switch sales are down significantly worldwide in the last 3-4 years). Fewer big releases from Capcom hitting Switch, and more people staying on the previous generation between PS4 and X1. This means games like Monster Hunter Wilds are going to sell fewer units on console. It wasn't on Switch and it can't be played on X1 and PS4.
Before Monster Hunter Wilds at least all the games were on PS4/X1 and in many cases Switch.
Why not examine why Japan is down to 16.2% as a share of overall sales? Again, MHWilds didn't release on Switch.
While PS4, Switch, and X1 were eschewed, PC continues to climb largely because of China.
Not only misleading article, but misleading by the OP... no surprise there considering who the OP is.
10% of Capcom's sales are physical units.
It is worth noting that the overall has shifted dramatically to PC, but none of that matters without some context, i.e. flagging Switch and Xbox sales in the last few years (yes switch sales are down significantly worldwide in the last 3-4 years). Fewer big releases from Capcom hitting Switch, and more people staying on the previous generation between PS4 and X1. This means games like Monster Hunter Wilds are going to sell fewer units on console. It wasn't on Switch and it can't be played on X1 and PS4.
Before Monster Hunter Wilds at least all the games were on PS4/X1 and in many cases Switch.
Why not examine why Japan is down to 16.2% as a share of overall sales? Again, MHWilds didn't release on Switch.
While PS4, Switch, and X1 were eschewed, PC continues to climb largely because of China.
Sakura
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Physical sales were only 10% though. Even if you added in the physical sales to consoles PC would still be higher.
Denton
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It's not rocket science. You look at what budget you have and then you go to neogaf or r/buildapc and get some tips. These days for some e.g. "good gaming PC that won't break bank" you would be looking at RTX 5070 or RX 9700, Ryzen 7700X, 32GB RAM and off you go.
Baemono
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Sakura
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If people are able to figure out which TV, phone, car etc to buy I'm sure they can manage to figure out what PC to buy.
laynelane
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Is there another option besides digital on PC? I don't recall seeing physical games for PC in quite some time now.
DonkeyPunchJr
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? I think you might be confused. This is about PC digital sales as a percent of their total digital (aka PC + console) sales. Not about PC digital sales as a percent of their total PC sales.
laynelane
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I wasn't thinking about it in terms of competition - more so in terms of accuracy. Digital sales should pretty much always track higher on PC since that's the only (not 100% on this but I haven't seen physical games for PC in a long time) option.
Baemono
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I know exactly what kind of TV, phone, car is good, but I can't tell what PC to buy. And I'm a nerd who always drowned in technology, was coding for fun when I was in middle school, etc. Pretending it's as easy as to buy a console is not correct.
ShaiKhulud1989
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Have you seen GPU prices alone? PC is a nice hobby but for majority of casual gamers outside of hardcore bubble it's Mac+PS5 Slim+Switch.
Some people on GAF, sheesh.
laynelane
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No, I'm not confused. Perhaps I'm not making myself clear, though. To me, it's par for the course that digital sales will track higher on PC for pretty much any title - given the number of PC gamers and the fact that digital is the only way to buy games. Therefore, it doesn't strike me as a trend.
Sakura
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The previous fiscal year was the first year for Capcom that PC had higher digital sales than consoles though, so I'm not sure why you think digital sales should always track higher. According to their slides, just a few years ago PC was 26.6% and console was 50.3%.
Ok but have you actually attempted to figure out what PC to buy before? If you still couldn't figure out you could always just go to best buy and pay for a prebuilt or something.
And I don't think anyone is pretending it is as easy as buying a console, but not being as easy doesn't mean it is difficult.
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Baemono
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I was responding to "just get a PC and call it a day", I don't believe someone "just get a PC"
I got a Steam Deck because it was straightforward a gaming pc, didn't have to ask myself about the components
Schmendrick
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for the non tech-savy there are prebuilds after all. They´ll overpay but they can purchase a "turn on, install steam, works"-PC no problem.
GHG
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It's funny that you say all this while owning a Series S.
laynelane
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Capcom changed their strategy from just a few years ago and put more focus on PC - as have many other gaming companies. That's another reason I think digital sales should normally track higher. Perhaps saying "pretty much always" gave the impression of "always", but that's not what I meant. There will be exceptions here and there, of course, but I wouldn't be surprised if digital sales on PC continue to outpace consoles for most titles.
Loomy
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Yes, those are all the options available to people this gen. Nintendo is technically off cadence with the Switch.
As for which combination makes sense? PC, Switch, PS5 if you afford all 3. If you can't, probably PC and Switch, but most people can't afford a modern gaming PC, so you still see a lot of midrange PC and PS combo.
owandeseis
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What, 250$ for a PS5 like GPU (Intel B580) or 350$ if you want a Pro like GPU (9060XT)?
You need all the other components of course, but it's not like we're in the days where consoles were 199$-299$ at this point of the gen either
If you want something that's like a PS5 Pro Pro, or that will rival the PS6 or even the PS6 Pro then sure you'll have to go for more expensive stuff
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ShaiKhulud1989
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You really believe in MSRP in the year of our tariff lord 2025 my guy?
Gaiff
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ShaiKhulud1989
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Mac Mini or M2 Air are one of the cheapest modern PC options now if you don't actually game and just want to work, watch videos or browse the interwebs. An OS is pre-installed too.
It's a strange world we are living in, no doubts about that.
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Gaiff
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There are $400 laptops that can do that. Nothing Apple sells is among the cheapest options.
Schmendrick
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saying this while we`ve had MSRP prices for hardware for a while now again in big parts of the world......
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Felessan
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It's unit sales of backcatalog games. PC gamers sure like to collect old stuff.
Prebuild PC are kinda expensive and not everyone into geeky stuff of building PC themselves. It's a huge pain.
You should adjust calculations for 75% catalog sales number
Almost nobody buys new copy of years old games, and used copy not included in sales, so it's understandable that digital ratio is quite high
Gaiff
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Didn't know Monster Hunter Wilds was "old stuff".
More salt. Physical is 10%.
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owandeseis
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I'm not american so i can't talk about prices there, but B580 is 260€ everywhere in Europe, as for the 9060XT it's not out yet so i can't tell, judging by the 9070XT it'll be 50€ higher than MSRP so you can change it to 400 for the Pro like version
Guilty_AI
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Most people get laptops. They usually want a PC they can carry around and also want to game, so it's a cost-effective solution. Easy to set-up too. A laptop with a rtx 3050 costs around $600, with some more powerful alternatives for ~$800/900.
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DenchDeckard
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Maybe a prebuilt is the best option and you have a community here who will help and advise a fellow gaffer!