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[Deerock71]

My Steam Deck is waiting.

 

[rm082e]

After seeing the frame rate on my PS5 Poor when I played the demo, I have been patiently waiting and hoping for a PC version.

Hopefully we get Rise of the Ronin too.

 

[ArtHands]

Shift Up forget one key difference: Black Myth Wukong is a day one release. Stellar Blade isn't

 

[lh032]

sells better on PC?
hmm im not sure about that.

its still a port and its full price, i think alot of PC gamers are very sensitive on full price games.

 

[Gaiff]

lol they are delusional if they think PC players will buy single player game that is not from cd projekt or from from.
They would've to be lucky. Only some single player games sell at full price on pc.

 

[Spooky Scary Skeleton]

The ball is on Sony's court on how they want to decide, if they are willing to convince Shift Up to create their next game as timed exclusive on PS5 again (which most likely is the case).

 

[rofif]

"Only some single player games sell at full price on pc"
you can't read it seems.
There are exemptions but pc players still don't buy as much full priced games

 

[Gaiff]

"Only some single player games sell at full price on pc"
you can't read it seems.
There are exemptions but pc players still don't buy as much full priced games

You're a good man rofif. Take the L on that one.

 

[rofif]

You're a good man rofif. Take the L on that one.

It's really petty and anegdotal of you to quote some old ass post when 1 or 2 single player games do well on pc.
I've enjoyed the game last year on ps5. thank you.
There is no L to take.

 

[Gaiff]

It's really petty and anegdotal of you to quote some old ass post when 1 or 2 single player games do well on pc.
I've enjoyed the game last year on ps5. thank you.
There is no L to take.

This is beneath you. I expected better from you.

 

[Hawk The Slayer]

I was also wrong on Stellar Blade's PC version as I did not expect a late launch port to sell this much as no late launch game ever reached too high. You got low late launch games like Returnal and Ratchet and Clank being at 6k to 8k, you got average ones being at 30k to 40k like Last of Us 2 to Rebirth, and even the highest late launches like Spiderman, god of war and Ghost of Tsukihma reaching 66k to 77k. So I was expecting Stellar Blade to do within that range around Rebirths as far as late launch titles goes.

At it's current peak 183k, that is definitely way beyond what I expect as that would have been a very good number even as a day 1 PC launch. Extremely good for a game that's way lower budget compared to most AAA games.

 

[Kataploom]

PC is a bigger platform so yeah, it should sell more eventually

 

[Zathalus]

"Only some single player games sell at full price on pc"
you can't read it seems.
There are exemptions but pc players still don't buy as much full priced games

MH Wilds
Kingdom Come 2
Expedition 33
Stellar Blade
Oblivion Remastered

All games that launched in the first half of the year that are full priced mostly single player games that had a CCU peak of over 100k. Civ 7 could probably have been there as well if it didn't suck. More and more evidence each year clearly showing that single player games do in fact sell quite well on PC.

 

[rofif]

MH Wilds
Kingdom Come 2
Expedition 33
Stellar Blade
Oblivion Remastered

All games that launched in the first half of the year that are full priced mostly single player games that had a CCU peak of over 100k. Civ 7 could probably have been there as well if it didn't suck. More and more evidence each year clearly showing that single player games do in fact sell quite well on PC.

oh I forgot I also got MH wilds on release for ps5... I need to play that probably

 

[Jigsaah]

Seems like a quality game. I'll get it on discount. The demo was awkward to play on M&KB. I'll try it again tonight on controller.

 

[ToneyJ]

Stellar Blade port shitting on all of Sony's 1st party "critically acclaimed" western SP games is hilarious. Turns out people like hot videogame characters that kick ass. Open up some Asian studios, Sony. Enough with the MCU/HBO wannabe trash.

 

[Neofire]

I think it's messy for shift-up to make a statement like that in general. Just let your work reflect how it's sold. Imo if they were so confidence that steam is the end-all be all why did they even make a deal with Sony and just release it on steam from its genesis?

And people say that fanboys are the only ones instigating things.......

 

[ToneyJ]

I think it's messy for shift-up to make a statement like that in general. Just let your work reflect how it's sold. Imo if they were so confidence that steam is the end-all be all why did they even make a deal with Sony and just release it on steam from its genesis?

And people say that fanboys are the only ones instigating things.......

Sony funded their game and also provided support in development, which is worth a lot. The game wouldn't have turned out as great without Sony's help. In return, it was a timed exclusive, which makes sense.

Also nothing wrong with telling your investors you expect sales to be more successful in the near future. Especially when you end up delivering on that promise.

 

[Black_Stride]

This is beneath you. I expected better from you.

Hahaha you sound like a disappointed dad telling off his son.

 

[MarV0]

MH Wilds
Kingdom Come 2
Expedition 33
Stellar Blade
Oblivion Remastered

All games that launched in the first half of the year that are full priced mostly single player games that had a CCU peak of over 100k. Civ 7 could probably have been there as well if it didn't suck. More and more evidence each year clearly showing that single player games do in fact sell quite well on PC.

If I'm not mistaken all those games sold best on PC, correct?

 

[poppabk]

MH Wilds
Kingdom Come 2
Expedition 33
Stellar Blade
Oblivion Remastered

All games that launched in the first half of the year that are full priced mostly single player games that had a CCU peak of over 100k. Civ 7 could probably have been there as well if it didn't suck. More and more evidence each year clearly showing that single player games do in fact sell quite well on PC.

Never heard the saying "the exception proves the rule"?
With all these exceptions the rule is like 500% proven.

 

[Spooky Scary Skeleton]

Sony funded their game and also provided support in development, which is worth a lot. The game wouldn't have turned out as great without Sony's help. In return, it was a timed exclusive, which makes sense.

Also nothing wrong with telling your investors you expect sales to be more successful in the near future. Especially when you end up delivering on that promise.

Sony was the one who approached them to convince HTK to make it a console exclusive for time being. The game was turn out to be great whether Shift Up made a deal with Sony or not. They didn't need Sony's funding to make the game great. They were already making bank with Nikke so funding and resource was not an issue for them.

 

[Neofire]

Sony funded their game and also provided support in development, which is worth a lot. The game wouldn't have turned out as great without Sony's help. In return, it was a timed exclusive, which makes sense.

I understand completely but the statement seems to make seem like PlayStation 5 and steam is competing in selling the same game and it's nonsense imo.

But yeah I know Sony funded the IP and it's a damn good game but I feel like Shift-up could have kept it classy and not to the sales war especially considering install bases and other factors between the two platforms.

 

[nial]

Sony was the one who approached them to convince HTK to make it a console exclusive for time being. The game was turn out to be great whether Shift Up made a deal with Sony or not. They didn't need Sony's funding to make the game great. They were already making bank with Nikke so funding and resource was not an issue for them.

The collaboration with SIE started way before Nikke was even released, we're talking early to mid 2021 here.

 

[Seomel]

Sony was the one who approached them to convince HTK to make it a console exclusive for time being. The game was turn out to be great whether Shift Up made a deal with Sony or not. They didn't need Sony's funding to make the game great. They were already making bank with Nikke so funding and resource was not an issue for them.

Wrong dummy. Please dont speak on things you dont know. Shuhei Yoshida was touring around and visited shift up where he got shown early version of stellar blade which was planned as smaller aa title in scale. He was impressed with what they were going for and offered them to team up with sony expanding game and going bigger to what it is now. Without sony, we would have completely different game. Here is source which is from interview Shuhei gave

Game Dev  Thread 'Stellar Blade was a smaller game before Shuhei Yoshida played the early prototype and had PlayStation partner with Shift Up (Developer Interview)'

Mar 10, 2024

The interview was conducted in French with both the technical director and creative director of the game

Translation via the purple forum:

• He says Shuhei Yoshida approached them in 2021 and after seeing the prototype they agreed on a contract
• Sony provided full localization support, marketing, full QA testing and tool sharing from other Sony studios.
• Game was inspired by 90s anime
• The game's scope was supposed to be really small before the Sony partnership
• Start of the game is linear when you reach the City Xion the game opens up it will be the...

• Thick Thighs Save Lives
• Replies: 43
• Forum: Gaming Discussion

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[Spooky Scary Skeleton]

The collaboration with SIE started way before Nikke was even released, we're talking early to mid 2021 here.

You're right, but HTK is a household name in Korea. He had already secured sizable investments from investors like Next Floor for his games, not to mention he was already a multi-millionaire from NC Soft payments and royalties during and after his role as their art director. He had no issue with funding for his projects. Project Eve was already funded back in 2021. Shu happened to visit their studio when he was in Sony Korea corp and decided to convince HTK to have Project Eve as PS exclusive.

 

[nial]

You're right, but HTK is a household name in Korea. He had already secured sizable investments from investors like Next Floor for his games, not to mention he was already a multi-millionaire from NC Soft payments and royalties during and after his role as their art director. He had no issue with funding for his projects. Project Eve was already funded back in 2021. Shu happened to visit their studio when he was in Sony Korea corp and decided to convince HTK to have Project Eve as PS exclusive.

Sure thing, but companies don't always work like that. They were probably fine with Sony acquiring the publishing rights as it meant that they no longer had to worry about investing for and managing a potentially risky project, while their publisher had all the global sales, marketing and publishing jobs on itself.

 

[ToneyJ]

I understand completely but the statement seems to make seem like PlayStation 5 and steam is competing in selling the same game and it's nonsense imo.

But yeah I know Sony funded the IP and it's a damn good game but I feel like Shift-up could have kept it classy and not to the sales war especially considering install bases and other factors between the two platforms.

lol I get it. But sometimes Sony needs a reality check.

"The PC version will come out in 2025, with the studio expecting its sales to exceed those on the PlayStation 5 due to "Steam's expanding share of the AAA games market" and the recent success of Black Myth: Wukong."

Maybe Sony needs to look inward a bit if Steam is beating them in sales for a traditional console action game like Stellar Blade. Seems like they're losing the audience that enjoys japanese/chinese/korean games to the PC platform. Monster Hunter Wilds and Elden Ring also sold more on PC than on PS5 I believe.

 

[nial]

lol I get it. But sometimes Sony needs a reality check.

"The PC version will come out in 2025, with the studio expecting its sales to exceed those on the PlayStation 5 due to "Steam's expanding share of the AAA games market" and the recent success of Black Myth: Wukong."

Maybe Sony needs to look inward a bit if Steam is beating them in sales for a traditional console action game like Stellar Blade. Seems like they're losing the audience that enjoys japanese/chinese/korean games to the PC platform. Monster Hunter Wilds and Elden Ring also sold more on PC than on PS5 I believe.

PC is a lot bigger in China and Korea than PlayStation, I don't think this is surprising for any party involved.

 

[Neofire]

lol I get it. But sometimes Sony needs a reality check.

"The PC version will come out in 2025, with the studio expecting its sales to exceed those on the PlayStation 5 due to "Steam's expanding share of the AAA games market" and the recent success of Black Myth: Wukong."

Maybe Sony needs to look inward a bit if Steam is beating them in sales for a traditional console action game like Stellar Blade. Seems like they're losing the audience that enjoys japanese/chinese/korean games to the PC platform. Monster Hunter Wilds and Elden Ring also sold more on PC than on PS5 I believe.

Monster Hunter barely did but not Elden Ring. Yes steam is growing, so is the PS5 install base just slower due to the persistent price of the PS5 when normally it would have been around 100 dollars cheaper by now.

PS5s install base pales in comparison to the PCs out there that can run these types of games but yet the PC versions either don't outsell it or barely do.

One thing is for sure, a PC version of just one game, whether there is a PlayStation or not isn't going to keep a Multi-Billion company afloat. Sony's bread and butter is the PlayStation console, it's entire ecosystem is the reason why they turning a profit every year. Yeah Sony does need to look inward and not alienate their player base lol.

 

[Gaiff]

Monster Hunter barely did but not Elden Ring. Yes steam is growing, so is the PS5 install base just slower due to the persistent price of the PS5 when normally it would have been around 100 dollars cheaper by now.

Monster Hunter Wilds according to Cricana had sold more on PC alone than on PS5+Xbox combined. That's for the US. Presumably, the results would be even more skewed in PC's favor in Eastern Europe and Asia. Elden Ring had also sold more on PC, but it was just 44%, PS was 40% total. This was during the first few weeks though, not sure how it played out later on, but consoles tend to be front-loaded, so it's more likely the gap widened in PC's favor, but not necessarily.

 

[ArtHands]

I understand completely but the statement seems to make seem like PlayStation 5 and steam is competing in selling the same game and it's nonsense imo.

But yeah I know Sony funded the IP and it's a damn good game but I feel like Shift-up could have kept it classy and not to the sales war especially considering install bases and other factors between the two platforms

They are just sharing their expectation as a sales forecast for the future. Expecting it to sell more on PC isn't a sales war.

 

[ClosBSAS]

This thread aged like milk lol. Games def gonna go past 1 million on steam way earlier than ps5 and its gonna keep selling. It probably slowed down to a crawl the sales on ps5 thats why they havent been updated

 

[PeteBull]

Wrong dummy. Please dont speak on things you dont know. Shuhei Yoshida was touring around and visited shift up where he got shown early version of stellar blade which was planned as smaller aa title in scale. He was impressed with what they were going for and offered them to team up with sony expanding game and going bigger to what it is now. Without sony, we would have completely different game. Here is source which is from interview Shuhei gave

Game Dev  Thread 'Stellar Blade was a smaller game before Shuhei Yoshida played the early prototype and had PlayStation partner with Shift Up (Developer Interview)'

Mar 10, 2024

The interview was conducted in French with both the technical director and creative director of the game

Translation via the purple forum:

• He says Shuhei Yoshida approached them in 2021 and after seeing the prototype they agreed on a contract
• Sony provided full localization support, marketing, full QA testing and tool sharing from other Sony studios.
• Game was inspired by 90s anime
• The game's scope was supposed to be really small before the Sony partnership
• Start of the game is linear when you reach the City Xion the game opens up it will be the...

• Thick Thighs Save Lives
• Replies: 43
• Forum: Gaming Discussion

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Gues who was young gigachad producer of this classic:

Thats right, our man Shuhei Yoshida:

He was man of culture all along

 

[Neofire]

They are just sharing their expectation as a sales forecast for the future. Expecting it to sell more on PC isn't a sales war.

Their are like literally less then 5 developers directly saying anything about sales between platforms of the same game. I would hope you're not that nice think that it's meaningless, either way we don't have know why Shift-up made this statement and probably will never know. So your speculation no better than mine at this point.

Unfortunately the perception of a sales competition is still there and that is undeniable.