Hermen Hulst calls Astro Bot their “most exciting recent success”

People compare to Mario in terms of the game itself. No one mentions it because of sales, come on now dude.

And now its sales are abysmal? Thank god Sony doesn't agree with you otherwise they would close the studio.

As if the first full game of a new platformer selling 2.5M is a terrible thing lol.

Call me when Spider-Man 3 sells 2.5M in 8 months. Now that would be abysmal.
Okay since you like to take it everywhere let's take it everywhere,

- spider-man 2 being the one of the biggest franchises in the world saw a drop of %51 in sales in comparison to its previous title
-God of War Ragnarok saw %34
-Horizon Forbidden West is down %64

Ghost of Tsushima sold nearly 13 million units how well do you think Yotai will do this holiday season? As a Sony super fan it doesn't concern you that the 2nd biggest gaming company in the world earns largly from Roblox and Fortnite?? I am just saying these numbers should scare anyone who is even interested in this industry aside from "I played somthing fun I don't care" unless you are delusional and just want to blindly launch a defence attack, go on check those numbers see if I am wrong.

And btw if you are "I played something fun I don't care" type person, why are you arguing this with me?
 
Except that the art style, gameplay and music was directed by a German, a Frenchman, and a Scot.
Art DirectionSebastian Brueckner

Game DirectionNicolas Doucet

Music CompositionKenneth C. M. Young


Other than that it's a slap in the face of every western Sony dev team.

Directed, not created. And Astro Bot is sequel to a IP from PS4 VR.

You need a team to do that. Is not because one guy is frenchman that you eliminate the entire japanese team LOL.
 
Okay since you like to take it everywhere let's take it everywhere,

- spider-man 2 being the one of the biggest franchises in the world saw a drop of %51 in sales in comparison to its previous title
-God of War Ragnarok saw %34
-Horizon Forbidden West is down %64

Ghost of Tsushima sold nearly 13 million units how well do you think Yotai will do this holiday season? As a Sony super fan it doesn't concern you that the 2nd biggest gaming company in the world earns largly from Roblox and Fortnite?? I am just saying these numbers should scare anyone who is even interested in this industry aside from "I played somthing fun I don't care" unless you are delusional and just want to blindly launch a defence attack, go on check those numbers see if I am wrong.

And btw if you are "I played something fun I don't care" type person, why are you arguing this with me?
why would it bother people if something sells a few more/less million copies, are you good? do you play sales or games.
You're arguing nothing, this isn't the e-peen sales Olympics, we're gamers.

You also completely ignore amount of time in market, economic status of the world, number of consoles in market, availability of sub services giving alternative ways to access games apart from sales etc etc etc

It's incredibly exhausting arguing with people who are so close minded and ignorant.
 
People want tits, ass and gameplay.

No one wants faux-deep GCSE level drama, riding your bicycle to yo mama's house, playin as yo deaf bisexual girlfriend.

This fad was over as soon as it begun.

Follow the money Sony and I will forgive you.
 
why would it bother people if something sells a few more/less million copies, are you good? do you play sales or games.
If it doesn't bother you why are you responding to me?? If I see two people arguing about Fast and Furious movies I will scroll right past it because I don't care about those movies I am here for MCU not Vin Diesel.
 
If it doesn't bother you why are you responding to me?? If I see two people arguing about Fast and Furious movies I will scroll right past it because I don't care about those movies I am here for MCU not Vin Diesel.
Did i say anything about anything bothering me? im just educating you, hopefully you learned something
 
Did i say anything about anything bothering me? im just educating you, hopefully you learned something
Educating me, oh give me a fucking break you are just pissed because I dared to say anything negative about your cult that you cannot disprove, I gave you numbers figures and you had what? Calling me an ignorant?, give it a rest.
 
Last edited:
Okay since you like to take it everywhere let's take it everywhere,

- spider-man 2 being the one of the biggest franchises in the world saw a drop of %51 in sales in comparison to its previous title
-God of War Ragnarok saw %34
-Horizon Forbidden West is down %64

Ghost of Tsushima sold nearly 13 million units how well do you think Yotai will do this holiday season? As a Sony super fan it doesn't concern you that the 2nd biggest gaming company in the world earns largly from Roblox and Fortnite?? I am just saying these numbers should scare anyone who is even interested in this industry aside from "I played somthing fun I don't care" unless you are delusional and just want to blindly launch a defence attack, go on check those numbers see if I am wrong.

And btw if you are "I played something fun I don't care" type person, why are you arguing this with me?
We have no updated sales for any of those titles. Their predecessors also released like 6 years before the games you mentioned and had a lot more sale prices during the ps4 era. In fact it was common for sony to have those games at 20 or 10 bucks which the most recent games (that released after 2019) didn't.

Ragnarok, SM2, hell even forbidden west had much better debuts than their previous titles at full price and were released at more expensive prices as well and their development was fully paid with their first week sales alone.

Thats like saying the latest Zelda sold less than the 2017 one. I mean…no shit? We know lmao.
 
Last edited:
Hey Herman I am very happy for you and I will let you finish but a 2.3 million sales on a 94 Metacritic, Game of the year and 78.7 million player base is not that much of a success, but hey have your victory lap.
Basically this. Hermen needs a win, so he's trotting this out. Problem is, it's not sufficient compared to how he's fucked this gen and probably the next.
 
Okay since you like to take it everywhere let's take it everywhere,

- spider-man 2 being the one of the biggest franchises in the world saw a drop of %51 in sales in comparison to its previous title
-God of War Ragnarok saw %34
-Horizon Forbidden West is down %64

Ghost of Tsushima sold nearly 13 million units how well do you think Yotai will do this holiday season? As a Sony super fan it doesn't concern you that the 2nd biggest gaming company in the world earns largly from Roblox and Fortnite?? I am just saying these numbers should scare anyone who is even interested in this industry aside from "I played somthing fun I don't care" unless you are delusional and just want to blindly launch a defence attack, go on check those numbers see if I am wrong.

And btw if you are "I played something fun I don't care" type person, why are you arguing this with me?
Was TOTK a failure because it didn't sell as much as the 8 year old BOTW?
Directed, not created. And Astro Bot is sequel to a IP from PS4 VR.

You need a team to do that. Is not because one guy is frenchman that you eliminate the entire japanese team LOL.
Nicolas Doucet created the entire IP.
 
Last edited:
We will compare Mario Kart World's sales in two years to the 60M seller Mario Kart 8 and determine that it's a failure!

Modern gaming discussion is absolutely fucked, Jesus Christ.
 
Last edited:
Hope they lean into AstroBot.

They have an IP which is uttered in the same breath and with the same critical acclaim as Mario does. If they knew what's good for them, we would see more.
 
Gamers like me during PS2 gen: "We like platformers and platform adventure games - PS2 rocks!"
Sony during PS3 gen: "Gamers want shooters now"
Gamers: "We like platformers too."
Sony during PS4 gen: "Gamers want cinematic games now"
Gamers: "We still like platformers..."
Sony during PS5 gen: "Holy heckaroo! Gamers still like platformers?!?"
Me: "..."
 
its-okay-sungwon-cho.gif


Need better from the first party.
 
Gamers like me during PS2 gen: "We like platformers and platform adventure games - PS2 rocks!"
Sony during PS3 gen: "Gamers want shooters now"
Gamers: "We like platformers too."
Sony during PS4 gen: "Gamers want cinematic games now"
Gamers: "We still like platformers..."
Sony during PS5 gen: "Holy heckaroo! Gamers still like platformers?!?"
Me: "..."
Oof, PS3 and PS4 had a ton of first-party platformers.
 
I love GAF (and support it with my own money willingly), but bipolar Hulst Derangement Syndrome here is so exausting.
The weird gotchas are funny as hell. Is he supposed to feel bad because he didn't directly develop it? Supervising is literally his job and he did an excellent work on this game.
 
Last edited:
Hey Herman I am very happy for you and I will let you finish but a 2.3 million sales on a 94 Metacritic, Game of the year and 78.7 million player base is not that much of a success, but hey have your victory lap.
94 metacritic
GOTY
Not a success, because I put the goal post on the Attach-Rate yard line.
 
We need Astro Kart. Transforming karts that can go from land to sea to... space! Time to push it while it's hot!
One of my weirdest gaming wishes is to have this game to be directed by no other than Kazunori Yamauchi. Let the man remember the good ol' days of Motor Toon Grand Prix in a pre-Gran Turismo world!
 
Was TOTK a failure because it didn't sell as much as the 8 year old BOTW?
TOTK 21.73 in 2 years
BOTW 32.73 in 8 years

Tears of the Kingdom is the 2nd most popular game on Switch 2 right now, You really couldn't have picked a worse example. Oh and by the way the ones I presented were for both PS4 and PS5 sales figures, aside from Spider-Man 2 which is not available on PS4.
The Office Reaction GIF by MOODMAN
 
TOTK 21.73 in 2 years
BOTW 32.73 in 8 years

Tears of the Kingdom is the 2nd most popular game on Switch 2 right now, You really couldn't have picked a worse example. Oh and by the way the ones I presented were for both PS4 and PS5 sales figures, aside from Spider-Man 2 which is not available on PS4.
The Office Reaction GIF by MOODMAN
SM2018 - 22.1M in 3.5 years
SM2 - >11M in 6 months
Love how you bring up TOTK's performance on Switch 2 (do we know if it doesn't account for next-gen upgrades?) as if I'm somehow arguing that it's a failure.
Console warring is serious business.
 
Okay since you like to take it everywhere let's take it everywhere,

- spider-man 2 being the one of the biggest franchises in the world saw a drop of %51 in sales in comparison to its previous title
-God of War Ragnarok saw %34
-Horizon Forbidden West is down %64

Ghost of Tsushima sold nearly 13 million units how well do you think Yotai will do this holiday season? As a Sony super fan it doesn't concern you that the 2nd biggest gaming company in the world earns largly from Roblox and Fortnite?? I am just saying these numbers should scare anyone who is even interested in this industry aside from "I played somthing fun I don't care" unless you are delusional and just want to blindly launch a defence attack, go on check those numbers see if I am wrong.

And btw if you are "I played something fun I don't care" type person, why are you arguing this with me?
This. This is the harsh reality of numbers behing the spinning PR. Sony make profits the same way MS were making money in the end of X360 era, by selling multiplatform content.

Currently Sony's 1st sales are declining fast and they are not profiting from them anymore (if you count the money they spend to buy those studios) and they sell twice less of their big games while they cost twice more to make. It's terrible. Worse they have completely lost their diverse output of games that has been the particularity of Playstation since PS1, for at least 4 more years. People should get fired for that as they were doing record 1st party profits just before Ryan became the boss! Why change a winning formula? Stupid managers.

Sure for some years the sales were hidden behind PS4 success, but PS4 1st party sales are very small now and it can't hide the truth. All those people in those shiny californian purple desks have failed their company and have failed their decades years long customers.

Talking about X360, do people remember what happened with MS next console? Currently people buy PS5 because it's a great gaming hardware, balanced, fast and cheap-ish (at least in US). But what happened the day Cerny leaves the company and stops doing great hardware that can run multiplatform games at 60fps and good IQ (at least now on PS5 Pro).

In short, the PS5 hardware is a very compelling product for the public to play... Roblox, COD, fortnite and the likes. But the Playstation games are definitely not desirable for the public and it's a catastrophy. Do share holders are this blinded by the clever PR? I mean at this point Sony would make more money by simply selling all their 1st party studios.
 
This. This is the harsh reality of numbers behing the spinning PR. Sony make profits the same way MS were making money in the end of X360 era, by selling multiplatform content.
Wow, the entire business strategy for PlayStation since the fucking PS1.
You can't seriously be this autistic.
 
hopefully this encourage sony to revive jak and daxter and other ancient IPs.
Okay since you like to take it everywhere let's take it everywhere,

- spider-man 2 being the one of the biggest franchises in the world saw a drop of %51 in sales in comparison to its previous title
-God of War Ragnarok saw %34
-Horizon Forbidden West is down %64

Ghost of Tsushima sold nearly 13 million units how well do you think Yotai will do this holiday season? As a Sony super fan it doesn't concern you that the 2nd biggest gaming company in the world earns largly from Roblox and Fortnite?? I am just saying these numbers should scare anyone who is even interested in this industry aside from "I played somthing fun I don't care" unless you are delusional and just want to blindly launch a defence attack, go on check those numbers see if I am wrong.

And btw if you are "I played something fun I don't care" type person, why are you arguing this with me?
yo mama hurts you?
 
This. This is the harsh reality of numbers behing the spinning PR. Sony make profits the same way MS were making money in the end of X360 era, by selling multiplatform content.

Currently Sony's 1st sales are declining fast and they are not profiting from them anymore (if you count the money they spend to buy those studios) and they sell twice less of their big games while they cost twice more to make. It's terrible. Worse they have completely lost their diverse output of games that has been the particularity of Playstation since PS1, for at least 4 more years. People should get fired for that as they were doing record 1st party profits just before Ryan became the boss! Why change a winning formula? Stupid managers.

Sure for some years the sales were hidden behind PS4 success, but PS4 1st party sales are very small now and it can't hide the truth. All those people in those shiny californian purple desks have failed their company and have failed their decades years long customers.

Talking about X360, do people remember what happened with MS next console? Currently people buy PS5 because it's a great gaming hardware, balanced, fast and cheap-ish (at least in US). But what happened the day Cerny leaves the company and stops doing great hardware that can run multiplatform games at 60fps and good IQ (at least now on PS5 Pro).

In short, the PS5 hardware is a very compelling product for the public to play... Roblox, COD, fortnite and the likes. But the Playstation games are definitely not desirable for the public and it's a catastrophy. Do share holders are this blinded by the clever PR? I mean at this point Sony would make more money by simply selling all their 1st party studios.
and this doesn't matter because Roblox and Fortnite makes them a pile of cash, mark my words Ghost of Yotai wont break 10m
 
Ghost of Yotain won't break 6.5m (half of past sales) on playstation, and will flop on PC.
As always it depends on Sony's marketing. If they market it at Spider-Man level, the game can easily sell 10m+. If the market it at Astro Bot level, it will even have a hard time to reach 5.
 
Last edited:
This. This is the harsh reality of numbers behing the spinning PR. Sony make profits the same way MS were making money in the end of X360 era, by selling multiplatform content.

Currently Sony's 1st sales are declining fast and they are not profiting from them anymore (if you count the money they spend to buy those studios) and they sell twice less of their big games while they cost twice more to make. It's terrible. Worse they have completely lost their diverse output of games that has been the particularity of Playstation since PS1, for at least 4 more years. People should get fired for that as they were doing record 1st party profits just before Ryan became the boss! Why change a winning formula? Stupid managers.

Sure for some years the sales were hidden behind PS4 success, but PS4 1st party sales are very small now and it can't hide the truth. All those people in those shiny californian purple desks have failed their company and have failed their decades years long customers.

Talking about X360, do people remember what happened with MS next console? Currently people buy PS5 because it's a great gaming hardware, balanced, fast and cheap-ish (at least in US). But what happened the day Cerny leaves the company and stops doing great hardware that can run multiplatform games at 60fps and good IQ (at least now on PS5 Pro).

In short, the PS5 hardware is a very compelling product for the public to play... Roblox, COD, fortnite and the likes. But the Playstation games are definitely not desirable for the public and it's a catastrophy. Do share holders are this blinded by the clever PR? I mean at this point Sony would make more money by simply selling all their 1st party studios.
What is the problem of people looking at any thread about Sony, even normal ones about being happy about f'ing AstroBot and just pour all their general negativity about Sony. I do not see it in Nintendo threads or others.

It is kind of a pattern, like several posts about different parts of the Sony financial reports all of them with a sad flotilla of people stirring shit, keep it up sure, but boy it is noticeable.
 
should scare anyone who is even interested in this industry aside from "I played somthing fun I don't care" unless you are delusional and just want to blindly launch a defence attack, go on check those numbers see if I am wrong.
Is a thread about AstroBot which is a freaking great game the best place to start another we are all doomed (whether Sony is or not) tirade and derail it?

Are Nintendo Switch 2 record sales threads the best place to complain about rising gen over gen costs for HW and SW and what has been held back to help sell another sale increase with the OLED revision? No, overall good console and amazing supply chain management for launch and a very good system selling launch game.

Would a Mario Kart World sales update be a best place to start similar shit? No, great game, do not derail that thread.

Why the heck do people think every single Sony thread including one about Astro Bot is the perfect ground for the same exact tired tirade of negativity that they post in all other Sony threads? That just makes you look petty about Sony's success and like you wished they could fail, why do these people feel threatened?
 
Last edited:
Top Bottom