ChorizoPicozo
Member
you mean.... gaylo studios?
you mean.... gaylo studios?
Nydius
Member
As someone who went through something similar to this when Gateway shit the bed, I feel bad for him and understand how he feels.
People on the inside -- the rank and file and even middle management -- usually keep their heads down and believe that things are going well, even as the higher ups know everything is falling down. They trust the higher ups' claims that everything will be just fine, and that they're doing everything they can to keep their head above water. Until it's too late.
If my job didn't have me interacting with the rest of the company on a daily basis (both call floor and manufacturing floor), I would have blindly believed corporate's statements too. But as I watched entire call center "pods" quit and not get replaced, or an entire shift on the manufacturing floor get axed, I realized their statements were full of crap and I better make my preparations. When they began trimming the actual IT staff, a lot of them were completely unprepared and flabbergasted that they were losing their jobs.
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ChorizoPicozo
Member
is this involved in getting third party games on game pass?
LordCBH
Member
MASTER CHEEKS NOOOOOO
GHG
Member
The hits keep coming I suppose
Microsoft’s Xbox cuts have hit key areas.
News of Microsoft’s major layoffs today keep rolling in, as the company informs around 9,000 employees of the cuts. I’ve heard from sources that the Xbox user research team has been hit hard, with nearly half the team affected. It’s a key team that focuses on ensuring quality across Xbox games...www.theverge.com
Poor
Riky
, the tools will never arrive:"It's a key team that focuses on ensuring quality across Xbox games, the platform, and developer tools."
Topher
Identifies as young
Those average Steam games are not made by or have the budget of Microsoft. Redfall was said to have reviewed internally two points higher than metacritic according to Phil Spencer. All I'm saying is that if this is that group then this is a good thing. I don't enjoy people being fired, but bad work is just bad work.
CuteFaceJay
Member
It normally is, You'd be surprised how many mid managers company's have knocking about. People who don't have the skills to pay the bills so they were just put somewhere to "manage" the worker ants and look busy.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Doesn't matter what job someone is doing. People just need to be accountable. And if it means a bad job or giant waste of time and budget, then out you go.
Game studios should actually be lucky because whether they are on their own or under a big corporate umbrella, they'll get funded for years (salary) before shit hits the fan for evaluation and release. And even a bad game can get released where everyone keeps their job for at least those 5 years of dev.
In traditional roles like sales or marketing, all it takes is someone missing their sales targets missing by -2% and that can be enough to get fired where the VP of Sales wants someone new to take over. Or a brand loses market share by -2%, and the VP of Marketing freaks out and fires the brand manager because it looks bad the brand dropped from #2 to #3 in Circana data charts (Circana is the rebranded name of AC Nielsen). All this can be done in 1 year of performance. Some roles you got to be firing on all cylinders from day one where everyone is evaluating your performance metrics every month as opposed to working on a gaming project for 5 years.
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SneakersSO
Member
For any dev in a western studio who is under MS, any project is do or die for them. Any. If you think you're working on a sacred cow, you're wrong.
As for Halo Studios, i'm honestly not entirely convinced that game ever ships. Thats not me speaking on the quality of the project, mind you, just more speaking to the publishing reality MS is faced with; they own Call of Duty, the FPS IP that basically took over Halo's entire presence in the FPS market genre as the years ticked by. As far as market impact, Halo has not had a large market hit in a long time, and the studio has faced nothing but turmoil since 4 shipped. I feel like you can pick basically any year since 2018 and say that was the worst year for Halo as an IP and you'd be on the money for the most part. Despite folks always thinking budgets somehow don't exist for Xbox, they always have, and when you have Call of Duty, which is more a production pipeline than it is a game, a pipeline which requires ever-increasing investment in order to be maintained, while Halo hasn't come close to sniffing that level of RoI, you eventually are gonna have to make a decision on which one has a future and which one doesn't.
Even if this new Halo project ships - it would need to recapture a market in a way that I just haven't seen occur since maybe Doom 2016, with the added bonus that Halo's success is really not measured by the quality of its SP campaigns, and more about its presence as an online MP shooter, so it can't even stand out in the way that Doom 2016 did (focusing on a solid campaign), cause even if its the best Halo campaign thats ever been produced, if the online MP doesn't catch on, then thats basically a wrap.
MS throughout the years but particularly since Bungie walked, has always been open to the idea of just licensing out Halo as an IP for others to develop should they have a strong enough pitch for it. We almost got a major Halo release that wasn't helmed by then-343i not even a couple of years ago. Mind you, Halo Studios got impacted today despite both wanting to ship a title next year, a title that is being made on an engine they've never shipped on (Unreal), and now with the added bonus of having to ship on more platforms than you ever have before. From the outside looking in, Halo Studios is being setup to fail. You wouldn't ever cut resources at a marquee team that is, on paper, within 16 months of shipping. Thats just a recipe for disaster.
Topher
Identifies as young
Pretty much what I said, yes
bitbydeath
Member
And to think, these layoffs are only the beginning for where they're heading.
Head in sand folks will still claim another console is coming despite all evidence proving otherwise.
Head in sand folks will still claim another console is coming despite all evidence proving otherwise.
Drunkensamurai
Member
phil spencer and co needed to be fired a long time ago. they needed an full reset of leadership to even have a chance
HeisenbergFX4
Member
I am not remotely a head in the sand kind of guy
CuteFaceJay
Member
Dang I've just seen Turn10 just got a 50% axe and some COD studio's like Raven also got hit.
mayham2199
Member
Another console is coming I have no idea why you guys keep trying to push this. Its been confirmed by way to many people now just move on with this nonsense.
bitbydeath
Member
You often state it as "console", which does make me question if you truely believe in an actual console coming.I am not remotely a head in the sand kind of guy
digoutyoursoul
Member
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SneakersSO
Do you have any idea what happened to the preview program for updates/feature changes/improvements?
For example an update to the achievements system has long been requested by a fair number in the program but never materialised despite Jason Ronald saying in late 2021 it was a high priority. He's been radio silent on it ever since.
Did they basically cut back on these things, the updates we get now are minuscule changes at best.
Do you have any idea what happened to the preview program for updates/feature changes/improvements?
For example an update to the achievements system has long been requested by a fair number in the program but never materialised despite Jason Ronald saying in late 2021 it was a high priority. He's been radio silent on it ever since.
Did they basically cut back on these things, the updates we get now are minuscule changes at best.
bitbydeath
Member
Sarah Bond recently confirmed a PC was coming, there has been no mention of an actual console yet, unless you include the misrepresentation of the word.
bender
What time is it?
LordCBH
Member
Until we se an actual announcement paired with hardware, treat everything with a grain of salt. Microsoft as a corpo does not care and will pivot on a dime.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
this is probably how it feels at MS/Xbox:
I just wonder if now, finally, these so-called "pundits, experts, analysts" are going to stop their bullshit of constantly trying to do damage control and spin everything. In a way, these layoffs feel way worse than the previous ones and the drama around the business combined.... are we going to see a different PR dynamic now? i don't think Phil or Sarah can go making interviews (with these people) laugh, make jokes and be "excited" for the future.
I just wonder if now, finally, these so-called "pundits, experts, analysts" are going to stop their bullshit of constantly trying to do damage control and spin everything. In a way, these layoffs feel way worse than the previous ones and the drama around the business combined.... are we going to see a different PR dynamic now? i don't think Phil or Sarah can go making interviews (with these people) laugh, make jokes and be "excited" for the future.
HeisenbergFX4
Member
A console is coming and likely also OEM pc style "consoles"You often state it as "console", which does make me question if you truely believe in an actual console coming.
Multiple skus are coming
Can the entire Xbox hardware team get axed tomorrow and the whole thing scrapped?
Maybe but my bet is no
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Oh no. This will be terrible!
rm082e
Gold Member
Do you have a source with a direct quote? I've heard the words "next generation", but not "next console". The information we have seen lines up behind the idea that they're pivoting to PC gaming and hope to eventually have some emulators that will run existing console games on PC hardware.
If they've ever directly said they are making a new console, I'd like to read it.
PeteBull
Member
bender
What time is it?
HeisenbergFX4
Member
ChorizoPicozo
Member
as always, MS head of the curve by being behind in the present.
LordCBH
Member
Unfortunately, while that booty isn't safe, THE Booty is perfectly safe.
Joshmyersbv
Member
I usually don't care when Tech companies do mass layoffs because it always happens. However, when those same companies do layoffs and at the same time request thousands of H-B1 visas to replace them its a big fucking problem. Fuck you MS
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HeisenbergFX4
Member
SneakersSO
Member
I wouldn't use the term 'cut'; they've had a 'reconfiguration of priorities as market factors continued to shift and coalesce'.
In 2021, all efforts were done in the service of hopefully making Xbox one of the best performing home console ecosystems by any metric. It can't be stated enough how much has changed since then.
I expect any effort on this front likely gets rolled into the efforts to create an XboxOS wrapper for WindowsOS in the future, if it still exists. It could just as well have gotten shit canned today.
GHG
Member
Xbox used the word console as does AMD in their video
Xbox have said a lot of things publicly in the last few years.
For the traditional console throw me in the "I'll believe it when I see it" camp.
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Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Man is it weird seeing gifs of this guy get posted. I've known him since I was 8 - true story.
bender
What time is it?
I know you will be one of those who are let down as well
Even if I were infected by human emotions, I'd have no horse in this race.
digoutyoursoul
Member
HeisenbergFX4
Member
bitbydeath
Member
Are you expecting this console to run native console games and not be able to run PC software?
Moridianae
Member
ChorizoPicozo
Member
i just had an orgasm. that tweet deserves a thread/jk
"You two can fuck right off, you pathetic shills"
Beautiful words, indeed.
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HeisenbergFX4
Member
I have said for quite sometime it was a console that would run Steam (and apparently other store fronts)
I haven't waivered from that stance for a long time
Ogbert
Member
He is such a titanic cunt.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Side topic: Long time ago when my older bro had a dog his fav food was possibly..... bread. The second he heard someone crinkling the plastic bag in the kitchen he'd run in. And he'd jump up the counter best he could with paws and snout right at the open bag. He was never this hyper for other food. lol
Boo Who?
Gold Member
Xbox used the word console as does AMD in their video
Playstations are Xboxes, so yes, AMD is still making consoles for MS.
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