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[Wimbledon]

America is fucked. It seems for so many there is only right and left. I can see it in this thread too. Either you are a pedo defender or you are a complete woke moron.

Where are the people that hate all these over the top woke bullshit policies and also see that Trump and his cronies are pedos(defenders) and totally corrupt. These voices are being drowned out and it's scary. The idiots celebrating this guy's death on social media are also complete morons and don't seem to realise idiot takes like that helped give Trump his second term. They never learn.

Yeah I don't claim either side. I'm comfortable listening to whomever but also being very critical of said person If I think their wrong , or I think parrot talking point without providing any detail nuance etc.

Charlie Kirk was one such individual , I don't particularly like the dude at all and I for the most part think the grift on going college campus to influence young people is a method I've seen both sides to some degree more so the right do for a while now, trying to get gotchas moments for their content.

But what's worse is the picking and choosing and rage baiting I just don't fuck with.

I think it's perfectly fine to not like the dude but still say what happened to him is FUCKED UP. I think most normal people not the extremes idealouges, do think that this isn't normal and you shouldn't kill someone just for their position. But also be like don't like the dude either, Ive seen more of that sentiment when talking with friends.

Like I said yesterday what you say or do has consequences. People keep trying to hide behind free speech when we have a whole decade of people getting shot , maimed or hurts , lose livelihoods etc. Free speech doesn't mean free from criticism or consequence. If someone wants to hurt you based on what you said , we have a mountain of evidence to prove why people will freely do that.

No one saying it's right but if you choose to walk a line of what YOU believe is true, and RIGHT. Your bound to meet opposition who don't like you...at worst want to hurt you.

 

[Goss Harag]

It boggles the mind these people can't keep their emotion in check without thinking the potential backlash that will affect their career and reputation.

But think of all of the likes on social media!

 

[Lethal01]

You asked for it, but here's an example:



You can probably find the full video elsewhere.

Such a los"s for humanity, we are so much wors"e off without this lovely huma"n being.

looking cracked out (or he got tourettes?) talking about how Haitian migrants are coming to take care over and become your masters if u dont vote Trump. this dude was balls deep in the culture war

 

[Senua]

Such a loss for humanity, we are so much worse off without this lovely human" being.

So because of a sound bite he deserved to be assassinated huh? Great moral compass you got there

 

[MilkyJoe]

Is it even confirmed the shooter was a crazy leftist?

Wasn't the guy trying to kill Trump a registered republican?

I don't think there's much chance they aren't

 

[Boneless]

Is it even confirmed the shooter was a crazy leftist?

Wasn't the guy trying to kill Trump a registered republican?

It does not really matter at this point. That is one person, but there is clearly a much bigger issue.

 

[Trunx81]

Not one riot .. I wonder how it would be if they would have killed a Leftie ..

 

[MilkyJoe]

Such a los"s for humanity, we are so much wors"e off without this lovely huma"n being.

I present to you the left

 

[thefool]

There are no both sides. Leftism hates you and will advocate for your death if you don't fall in line.

 

[calico]

parrot talking point

grift

gotchas moments

 

[The Sum of Zero]

Edit: Nah, not worth it. Lots of you seem to be invested in blaming any lefties when there's no evidence yet.

As I said before, when they catch the guy and if he ends up being what you all say, I'll acknowledge it.

Also, I shouldn't even have to fucking clarify this, but I'm an independant.

 

[Dr.Morris79]

Honestly it seems like a very strange coincidence to me if he really has no involvement (possible decoy to allow the escape?) and there just happened to be a random nutjob there at that time.

Exactly what I was wondering

Seems a bit.. odd.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Is it even confirmed the shooter was a crazy leftist?

Wasn't the guy trying to kill Trump a registered republican?

We never found anything out about the guy who shot Trump

There are reports that his entire house was professionally scrubbed and his parents just vanished, people think they were taken somewhere into hiding. No one ever found his social media accounts, they were so comprehensively deleted that nothing was preserved

There's a lot of suspiciously unknown things about the guy and it's likely to stay that way indefinitely

 

[Wimbledon]

Yes thanks for quoting words I guess.

All words I associate to Charlie Kirk

 

[thefool]

This is what should worry each and every one of you.



The goal cannot be violence but to dismantle their system.

 

[Lukaku's First Touch]

It does not really matter at this point. That is one person, but there is clearly a much bigger issue.

What are you even talking about? Saying it doesn't matter who did this but then saying the left has gone crazy with murder... of course it matters. Trump already posting shit against the extreme left while nobody knows who the killer is but apparently 'it doesn't matter'.

 

[Lukaku's First Touch]

We never found anything out about the guy who shot Trump

There are reports that his entire house was professionally scrubbed and his parents just vanished, people think they were taken somewhere into hiding. No one ever found his social media accounts, they were so comprehensively deleted that nothing was preserved

There's a lot of suspiciously unknown things about the guy and it's likely to stay that way indefinitely

What? Complete bullshit, ofcourse they found out about him. I've seen you post some conspiracy theories before but come on man...

Thomas Matthew Crooks: What we know about Donald Trump's attacker

The 20-year-old registered Republican purchased ammunition the day of the rally, authorities say.

www.bbc.com

 

[Lethal01]

His death being cheered in woke western game dev circles is like the least surprising thing ever. I can just imagine the partying going on in private dev chats.

Can confim the parties are lit right now.

 

[Wimbledon]

This is what should worry each and every one of you.



The goal cannot be violence but to dismantle their system.

Whose "their" whose system?

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Let's not pretend the left leaning media, which is the majority, is not a large part of the propaganda that causes things like this

You are naive if you haven't stepped back and seen that. Unplug from the matrix for a minute.

 

[Redneckerz]

I just want to reiterate that everyone saying The Left is referring to the US Left. European Left is far removed from US Left (Which roughly translated would be Right here, atleast in my country).

 

[ValiantInstance]

Modern conservatism has one common them across the west, the idea that we are a sovereign people who have a claim to their own land. And that globalism and all it's side effects such as mass immigration will erode this until there is nothing left.

So far this hasn't really turned violent and it's proponents have been trying to reach a solution through democracy. Places like the UK are a tinderbox though and I think violence will come as over here people have voted time and time again to stop this and it is being ignored.

Progressivism is different, because it is rooted in cultural marxism and idyllic thinking. If you're not with us, you're against us. Speech is violence, silence is violence. If a conservative party wins the election, gays and ethnic minorities will be sent off to the gas chamber within a month. This is all proven to be horseshit ex post.

Violence is the natural conclusion of this rhetoric, so the faux outrage from figureheads like this needs to be called out. You broke it, you bought it.

 

[Boralf]

This thread made me lose faith in humanity.

Yes, the overgeneralization is ironic.

 

[Wimbledon]

Can confim the parties are lit right now.

Yup rage baiting at its finest are you from the purple place?

 

[Senua]

This thread made me loose faith in humanity.

Yes, the overgeneralization is ironic.

I hope you can tighten that faith back up again brother

 

[Lethal01]

So because of a sound bite he deserved to be assassinated huh? Great moral compass you got there

Never said that.
I have sadly seen more of him than some sound bites.

He lived promoting violence and sadly passed before he could undo some of the damage he caused and will now pomote more even in death.

I feel bad for his toddler daughter that saw him die.

 

[MilkyJoe]

I just want to reiterate that everyone saying The Left is referring to the US Left. European Left is far removed from US Left (Which roughly translated would be Right here, atleast in my country).

Well the UK left are just as fucking insane as the US left, we just don't have guns here.

Be under no misunderstanding, leftism is a mental illness!!

 

[The Sum of Zero]

Modern conservatism has one common them across the west, the idea that we are a sovereign people who have a claim to their own land. And that globalism and all it's side effects such as mass immigration will erode this until there is nothing left.

So far this hasn't really turned violent and it's proponents have been trying to reach a solution through democracy. Places like the UK are a tinderbox though and I think violence will come as over here people have voted time and time again to stop this and it is being ignored.

Progressivism is different, because it is rooted in cultural marxism and idyllic thinking. If you're not with us, you're against us. Speech is violence, silence is violence. If a conservative party wins the election, gays and ethnic minorities will be sent off to the gas chamber within a month. This is all proven to be horseshit ex post.

Violence is the natural conclusion of this rhetoric, so the faux outrage from figureheads like this needs to be called out. You broke it, you bought it.

Just saying, I appreciate your profile pic. Shit like this is why Big Boss did what he did.

 

[SuperC]

There are no both sides. Leftism hates you and will advocate for your death if you don't fall in line.

I hated Charlie Kirk but for reasons totally different from the leftists. Still I feel sad about the way he was killed it was brutal and he didn't deserve that
The leftists proved themselves to be animals

 

[Majmun]

I feel sad for his family. Not a fan of this man, but no one should be lynched this way.

 

[MidGenRefresh]

Modern conservatism has one common them across the west, the idea that we are a sovereign people who have a claim to their own land. And that globalism and all it's side effects such as mass immigration will erode this until there is nothing left.

So far this hasn't really turned violent and it's proponents have been trying to reach a solution through democracy. Places like the UK are a tinderbox though and I think violence will come as over here people have voted time and time again to stop this and it is being ignored.

Progressivism is different, because it is rooted in cultural marxism and idyllic thinking. If you're not with us, you're against us. Speech is violence, silence is violence. If a conservative party wins the election, gays and ethnic minorities will be sent off to the gas chamber within a month. This is all proven to be horseshit ex post.

Violence is the natural conclusion of this rhetoric, so the faux outrage from figureheads like this needs to be called out. You broke it, you bought it.

Motherfuckers blow on the coal and then are surprised to see the fire.

 

[Shmunter]

Now how about them game devs….

 

[Redneckerz]

Well the UK left are just as fucking insane as the US left, we just don't have guns here.

Be under no misunderstanding, leftism is a mental illness!!

If by leftism you mean socialism..

 

[Senua]

Now how about them game devs….

They'll probably be promoted

 

[Boralf]

I hope you can tighten that faith back up again brother

I'm not really losing faith in all humanity because of one thread.

Same as I don't think all left or all right are evil because of one incident.

 

[Saiyan-Rox]

Don't forget there are radicalised people on both sides. Mental health isn't exclusive to where your politics sides.

I like to think I'm down the middle of the whole sides thing (can't remember the term right now) there's some I agree with and disagree with on both sides.

Charlie said some things that were sometimes a bit more mad than others but the whole point is that no one no matter their leaning does not deserve to get shot and killed in public and have that video shared around the internet or to be publicly laughed at.

The guy was a loyal husband and a loving father who genuinely cared about people in his own way making fun or celebrating his death does nothing but radicalise people more.

 

[Majmun]

On the other hand...

People online are honouring Charlie's legacy the way he would've wanted, by displaying the exact amount of empathy towards him that he had for others - none at all. "I hate that word 'empathy', actually. I think it's a made-up, New Age term that does a lot of damage." (Charlie Kirk's mouth, October 12, 2022).

If you have all the heart, warmth and compassion of a teaspoon when it comes to the most barbaric of acts and consider the slaughter of young lives "worth it, to protect the God-given right of the Second Amendment" (Charlie Kirk's mouth, April 5, 2023), it's only natural for your own words to be thrown straight back at you should you befall the same fate you willingly turn a blind eye to.

Not saying he deserved to get lynched, but people online are just portraying his behaviour. If you don't like their behaviour, then you shouldn't have liked Charlie's either...

 

[Wimbledon]

Don't forget there are radicalised people on both sides. Mental health isn't exclusive to where your politics sides.

I like to think I'm down the middle of the whole sides thing (can't remember the term right now) there's some I agree with and disagree with on both sides.

Charlie said some things that were sometimes a bit more mad than others but the whole point is that no one no matter their leaning does not deserve to get shot and killed in public and have that video shared around the internet or to be publicly laughed at.

The guy was a loyal husband and a loving father who genuinely cared about people in his own way making fun or celebrating his death does nothing but radicalise people more.

It's also not helping that people specifically the extreme idealouges are politicizing his death. In an effort to make people more angry and more radicalized.

People need to remember that when you click off the social media site you have your own life to live. Most peoples everyday isn't an influencers everyday.

Most peoples biggest concern is what there going to do this weekend, or getting to work, groceries, staying in shape etc.

Just trying to keep perspective here.

 

[MilkyJoe]

If by leftism you mean socialism..

I know what I mean

 

[Senua]

Never said that.
I have sadly seen more of him than some sound bites.

He lived promoting violence and sadly passed before he could undo some of the damage he caused and will now pomote more even in death.

I feel bad for his toddler daughter that saw him die.

Promoting violence?

 

[SCReuter]

Can confim the parties are lit right now.

You're a piece of fucking shit.

 

[OLED_Gamer]

Such a los"s for humanity, we are so much wors"e off without this lovely huma"n being.

Never followed the guy but yeah- seems he has said some weird, shitty things. He still didn't deserve to be shot though.

This is what should worry each and every one of you.



The goal cannot be violence but to dismantle their system.

They teach a defined curriculum, unless education in the US is whatever they want?

 

[Boneless]

What are you even talking about? Saying it doesn't matter who did this but then saying the left has gone crazy with murder... of course it matters. Trump already posting shit against the extreme left while nobody knows who the killer is but apparently 'it doesn't matter'.

What matters is that there are thousands of people saying they endorse this and they would act the same if they could, that is the bigger problem. Even if the shooter is right wing, those people are still there.

 

[SCReuter]

Edit: Nah, not worth it. Lots of you seem to be invested in blaming any lefties when there's no evidence yet.

As I said before, when they catch the guy and if he ends up being what you all say, I'll acknowledge it.

Also, I shouldn't even have to fucking clarify this, but I'm an independant.

The left is openly celebrating the assassination. It's twisted and gut-wrenching. They've gone completely off the rails, full villain mode.

 

[The Sum of Zero]

Edit: Drunk again, my bad.

 

[Mr Moose]

Sympathy != empathy.

 

[captainnapalm]

Can confim the parties are lit right now.

I just have a hunch this isn't going to end up being a real positive for you guys though, call me crazy.

 

[Lukaku's First Touch]

What matters is that there are thousands of people saying they endorse this and they would act the same if they could, that is the bigger problem. Even if the shooter is right wing, those people are still there.

I'm sure there were 1000s of people saying the same thing when Nancy Pelosi's husband almost got hammered to death. This shit isn't a left or right thing but it does matter when people are blaming a certain group while we don't even know who did it and why.

 

[wa600]

On the other hand...

People online are honouring Charlie's legacy the way he would've wanted, by displaying the exact amount of empathy towards him that he had for others - none at all. "I hate that word 'empathy', actually. I think it's a made-up, New Age term that does a lot of damage." (Charlie Kirk's mouth, October 12, 2022).

If you have all the heart, warmth and compassion of a teaspoon when it comes to the most barbaric of acts and consider the slaughter of young lives "worth it, to protect the God-given right of the Second Amendment" (Charlie Kirk's mouth, April 5, 2023), it's only natural for your own words to be thrown straight back at you should you befall the same fate you willingly turn a blind eye to.

Not saying he deserved to get lynched, but people online are just portraying his behaviour. If you don't like their behaviour, then you shouldn't have liked Charlie's either...

While you arent directly saying he deserved to get lynched, you are mocking him and his death which says a lot about you.
I've barely seen discussions with Charlie, but taking one small quote without any context and painting him as a callous human being feels very disingenuous from you.

 

[Boneless]

I'm sure there were 1000s of people saying the same thing when Nancy Pelosi's husband almost got hammered to death. This shit isn't a left or right thing but it does matter when people are blaming a certain group while we don't even know who did it and why.

The people that can be blamed are exposing themselves everywhere by celebrating his death. What are you not seeing?