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[peish]

looking cracked out (or he got tourettes?) talking about how Haitian migrants are coming to take care over and become your masters if u dont vote Trump. this dude was balls deep in the culture war

Seems the lady is over sensitive and chose to take his last sentence as cultural war snippet

Sometimes the most nicest leftist have too much victim and god complex together

Brings me to this video on hyper sensitivity with some

 

[calico]

Wait, didn't some kind of high ranking FBI dude say the shooter is in custody yesterday?

The local cops grabbed some ostensibly random nutjob at the scene, and this was miscommunicated as the shooter being in custody.

 

[Embearded]

I don't want to start describing people as rights or leftists. To be honest to me it looks like a very bad generalization.

I have to say though, that the kind of people who are now running to show Charlie's bad takes on social matters, are the kind of people who tend to use doublethink when someone who they considered their own does something negative.

An example would be that trans lunatic who was very vocal on Twitter and multiple people used what he/she/whatever said, yet when it was proven to be a pedophile / predator kind of thing, everyone deleted whatever traces of their relation to that person online and stopped mentioning them.
It happened on Era, i am sure they did that.

 

[calico]

So the shooter didn't end up being that old white man that was arrested? If he didn't have anything to do with it, it's kinda scary how someone can so easily get harassed by the public and arrested by the police.

In the video he is saying 'shoot me, shoot me', so it seems likely he was behaving in some weird way that made them suspect him and that they did not just randomly grab a guy.

Honestly it seems like a very strange coincidence to me if he really has no involvement (possible decoy to allow the escape?) and there just happened to be a random nutjob there at that time.

 

[MisterFalcon]

In the video he is saying 'shoot me, shoot me', so it seems likely he was behaving in some weird way that made them suspect him and that they did not just randomly grab a guy.

Honestly it seems like a very strange coincidence to me if he really has no involvement (possible decoy to allow the escape?) and there just happened to be a random nutjob there at that time.

Seeing such a traumatic event can cause shock to many people. Like this one, where an ice hockey player got a jugular cut and only lived because their team trainer was a Vietnam veteran combat medic who immediately pinched the vein.

With blood gushing out of Malarchuk's neck onto the ice, he was able to leave the ice on his own feet with the assistance of his team's athletic trainer, Jim Pizzutelli.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clint_Malarchuk#cite_note-5"><span>[</span>5<span>]</span></a> Many spectators were physically sickened by the sight. It was reported that the excessive amount of blood that Malarchuk lost caused eleven fans to faint, two more to have heart attacks, and three players to vomit on the ice.

Clint Malarchuk - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

It will be interesting to see how the new Warrior Culture FBI, where being able to do pull ups is the main requirement to serve will solve this. Maybe they don't need to do anything and a Ukrainian will turn up dead in a motel with murder weapon in his hand, a bullet from it in his head and a detailed confession on how Zelensky, Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton were in on it.

 

[Eesha]

man, i feel sorry for the comment i did yesterday, RIP.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

 

[Shmunter]

Now how about them game devs….

 

[Nocty]

what a wild 24 hours

 

[MayauMiao]

Now how about them game devs….

It boggles the mind these people can't keep their emotion in check without thinking the potential backlash that will affect their career and reputation.

 

[Buggy Loop]

They killed one of the few guys who tried to reason with them & even further radicalized an entire generation of young men, they'll regret it. In a proper country, Luigi, the animal who killed that young woman in NC & the assassin responsible for this would be publicly executed on live television.

The time for reasoning with these demons is over now, they need to be crushed.

My thoughts exactly. How do you deal with them? They are not humans, they are demons in disguise.They have no compassion, no morals, no soul. It's a battle between good and evil.

They killed the nice guy, they have no idea what's coming. They need to be put out of power for the next 100 years.

Wow totally reasonable takes guys! Not crazy at all!

 

[calico]

Seeing such a traumatic event can cause shock to many people.

I can see it causing shock / fainting / vomiting etc. but asking to be shot seems like a particularly 'crazy person' response.

 

[Buggy Loop]

It will be interesting to see how the new Warrior Culture FBI, where being able to do pull ups is the main requirement to serve will solve this. Maybe they don't need to do anything and a Ukrainian will turn up dead in a motel with murder weapon in his hand, a bullet from it in his head and a detailed confession on how Zelensky, Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton were in on it.

Is this satire?

 

[Cyberpunkd]

You're oversimplifying the issue. Kirk's broader 2A argument wasn't 'I don't care if people die.' It was that some level of violence is unfortunately inevitable in any society, but the right to bear arms is a safeguard against worse losses of liberty. Disagree, but pretending it's just gun lovers don't care about death, isn't engaging with what was actually said.

Also, it's not mental gymnastics to note that banning guns doesn't end violence, it just changes the method. It's more complicated than 'less guns = less gun related crime' because it is not the same as saying fewer guns means less crime overall. Here in the UK we have a knife crime epidemic. Violence finds another outlet.

You're oversimplifying the issue.

I think it's you that is making it more complex than it should be.

but the right to bear arms is a safeguard against worse losses of liberty.

I know you mentioned you disagree and I do as well, to make it perfectly clear - if it comes to the worst all the redneck dipshits will get absolutely wiped by army units. It's a convenient omission of all these shouting to "raise up against the tyranny".

Also, it's not mental gymnastics to note that banning guns doesn't end violence, it just changes the method. It's more complicated than 'less guns = less gun related crime' because it is not the same as saying fewer guns means less crime overall. Here in the UK we have a knife crime epidemic. Violence finds another outlet.

That's not how you should approach it, this is not a "well, violence will find a way so thoughts and prayers" situation. You solve the issue one by one, not all at once. This is like saying "we cannot improve live expectancy because it will mean better education, better healthcare, more environmental protections and psychological counseling for people in distressed, and we don't have money to do all of that at once". You don't do it all at once, you go step by step and see if it changes the situation, that's the basis of any good A/B test.

 

[The Sum of Zero]

Wow totally reasonable takes guys! Not crazy at all!

Exactly. Calling for blood over this is just as bad as the person who killed him. Revenge is not the way.

Anyone advocating retaliation over this (and anyone celebrating it) is just as much a subhuman as the assassin.

 

[midnightAI]

Probably not. And if he doesn't then yes the studio as a whole deserves blame.

The studio as a whole deserves blame because of the opinions of individuals? And that they should be fired? And people say the UK doesn't have 'freedom of speech'. It's their personal opinion, isn't that something Charlie Kirk fought for? (it may well be a bad opinion, but should it be their right to that? you can easily ignore them or reply in their comments about it)

But it's hardly a surprise that some people in the LGBTQ community and their hard core supporters are, lets say, 'happy' about the death of someone who has been campaigning fully against their very existence.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

 

[ADiTAR]

But it's hardly a surprise that people in the LGBTQ and their hard core supporters are, lets say, 'happy' about the death of someone who has been campaigning fully against their very existence.

I'm gay. don't paint us in the same brush as the activists.

I always said that the Queer is just a gay activist, because what's the diff between gay and queer?

 

[Trilobit]

I genuinely hope the glee coming from this are just from chronically online people and not normal Americans.

 

[midnightAI]

I'm gay. don't paint us in the same brush as the activists.

I always said that the Queer is just a gay activist, because what's the diff between gay and queer?

I didn't say all to be fair, and I certainly wasn't insinuating that either, but there will be many who will be 'happy' about it (proof is in the tweets circulating). He had many an extreme view and certainly made many enemies along the way, not enough to kill him for it, but its not the first nor the last political assassination.

Edit: I have edited my post to make that more clear

 

[Lucifers Beard]

I wasn't a fan of him, but the comments celebrating and laughing at his death are fucking absurd. He was only 31 and had a wife with young kids. I find it incredibly unnerving that people can be this way and enjoy watching someone die as violently as he did just because he had his own view and opinions of the world.

 

[Roufianos]

Didn't he have his own security, and they failed to notice someone posted on a roof which even a rando picked up?

 

[FoxMcChief]

I genuinely hope the glee coming from this are just from chronically online people and not normal Americans.

The amount of Americans on Social media is only a percentage of America. Sadly it's larger than it should be though. All sides.

 

[Jenov]

Wow, I just went to resetera to read the comments, my god.

They are all going to hell

It's pretty dire. At around page 100-101 they started attacking a father and people who solely expressed sympathy for Kirk's children.

Apparently if you feel bad for his white kids you need to look in the mirror to check if you're a racist. Oh and Kirk abused his kids. And oh, those kids would prob grow up to be Nazis too, so STFU loser.

That's the gist of one of the worst posts from there.

Like really… FBI, please go check on the posters at Resetera. Those people are NOT okay.

 

[Trilobit]

Me: "I think there should be cars despite the inevitable deaths caused by drivers"

*I get hit by a car*

Retards: "Well well well, how the turntables"

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I don't think Kirk would have changed his mind on guns had he survived. He always knew that he could become a part of the statistics and still held his opinions on the subject. Him dying by being shot is not some kind gotcha that many people seem to think. He never shot at people or attacked them physically, he only used his words, so there's no 'he got what he deserved'.

 

[FoxMcChief]

Didn't he have his own security, and they failed to notice someone posted on a roof which even a rando picked up?

I mean, he's a YouTuber with private security, not the President.

 

[FoxMcChief]

I'm a little confused why so many here are going out of their way to trigger themselves to see what the crazies somewhere else are saying.

Ignore them. You're allowing them to live rent free in your minds. Don't give them that power.

Anytime you feel tempted to see what they're saying, go to YouTube and type Norm McDonald.

 

[Stuart360]

It's pretty dire. At around page 100-101 they started attacking a father and people who who solely expressed sympathy for Kirk's children.

Apparently if you feel bad for his white kids you need to look in the mirror to check if you're a racist. Oh and Kirk abused his kids. And oh, those kids would prob grow up to be Nazis too, so STFU loser.

That's the gist of one of the worst posts from there.

Like really… FBI, please go check on the posters at Resetera. Those people are NOT okay.

WTF?. Thes people really are insane.

The left is the biggest threat to the future of humanity than anything else.

 

[The Sum of Zero]

Also, anyone blaming "the left" for this are fucking delusional.

The shooter hasn't even been caught yet. We have NO IDEA the reasoning behind it, aside from your assuming.

I'll be willing to admit I'm wrong, but only after the dude is caught and interrogated (hopefully water-boarded).

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

As a matter of interest, did Melissa Hortman get the same sympathy from trump?

I can't find the thread through search, interestingly.

But it's all fucked anyways, for the last 25 years since media has become ultra partisan + algorithm eco chambers, the right hates the left and the left hates the right.

I sadly fear these shootings will become a common occurrence, after all training people to hate a group of people tends to have these very well known effects.

RIP to the guy who got murdered.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

I don't really want to pontificate too much about this in the middle of the night, but the reality is that starting around 2016 almost all moderate Democrats were kicked out of, or left, the party. This departure of moderates accelerated in 2020, leaving behind only the most hardcore radicalized extremists in the party

Many current well-known Republicans today are FORMER Democrats, including Donald Trump, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Tulsi Gabbard, and Elon Musk. They were all kicked out of the party for having what most sane individuals would consider moderate beliefs

There are no moderate Democrats left now in the party. Remember this tonight, and going forward

 

[Scrawnton]

Like I said yesterday. This assassination is a cultural turning point because it exposes the crazy left for who they really are and the right is noticing.

I feel like I should mention I've always been in the middle but blue voting. That probably ends today though.

Also, anyone blaming "the left" for this are fucking delusional.

The shooter hasn't even been caught yet. We have NO IDEA the reasoning behind it, aside from your assuming.

I'll be willing to admit I'm wrong, but only after the dude is caught and interrogated.

We don't know if the left did it. But we sure as hell know the left is celebrating like they just lost their virginity, and that is a huge problem for our society.

 

[FoxMcChief]

Also, anyone blaming "the left" for this are fucking delusional.

The shooter hasn't even been caught yet. We have NO IDEA the reasoning behind it, aside from your assuming.

I'll be willing to admit I'm wrong, but only after the dude is caught and interrogated.

I actually never looked into the guy that tried to kill Trump. Was he on "the left."

 

[cyberheater]

It boggles the mind these people can't keep their emotion in check without thinking the potential backlash that will affect their career and reputation.

Yeah I don't get it either. She's going to have to explain to her family and friends why she got fired and her name is very public now so that will make getting a future job very tough.

 

[The Sum of Zero]

Like I said yesterday. This assassination is a cultural turning point because it exposes the crazy left for who they really are and the right is noticing.

I feel like I should mention I've always been in the middle but blue voting. That probably ends today though.


We don't know if the left did it. But we sure as hell know the left is celebrating like they just lost their virginity, and that is a huge problem for our society.

I agree with that. Like I said before: "Anyone advocating retaliation over this (and anyone celebrating it) is just as much a subhuman as the assassin."

 

[FoxMcChief]

Yeah I don't get it either. She's going to have to explain to her family and friends why she got fired and her name is very public now so that will make getting a future job very tough.

Yeah. I've said it many times. Some things people take boards (and especially social media) way too seriously. They let themselves get angry to the point of saying stuff and being held accountable.

I just think too many folk think they have something they think must be read by everyone, when it's really nothing noteworthy.

 

[Scrawnton]

I agree with that. Like I said before: "Anyone advocating retaliation over this (and anyone celebrating it) is just as much a subhuman as the assassin."

I agree. When a "culturally sobering" moment like this happens, people typically take pause, huge their loved ones, and think on the state of things. With this, we have dancing in the streets, I mean people terminally online posting vile stuff that they'd never say in public because they know how that'd go if they did.

 

[3liteDragon]

I don't really want to pontificate too much about this in the middle of the night, but the reality is that starting around 2016 almost all moderate Democrats were kicked out of, or left, the party. This departure of moderates accelerated in 2020, leaving behind only the most hardcore radicalized extremists in the party

Many current well-known Republicans today are FORMER Democrats, including Donald Trump, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Tulsi Gabbard, and Elon Musk. They were all kicked out of the party for having what most sane individuals would consider moderate beliefs

There are no moderate Democrats left now in the party. Remember this tonight, and going forward

Like I said, there's no reasoning with these lunatics. People are way past that point after yesterday.

 

[Lukaku's First Touch]

America is fucked. It seems for so many there is only right and left. I can see it in this thread too. Either you are a pedo defender or you are a complete woke moron.

Where are the people that hate all these over the top woke bullshit policies and also see that Trump and his cronies are pedos(defenders) and totally corrupt. These voices are being drowned out and it's scary. The idiots celebrating this guy's death on social media are also complete morons and don't seem to realise idiot takes like that helped give Trump his second term. They never learn.

 

[deriks]

I don't really want to pontificate too much about this in the middle of the night, but the reality is that starting around 2016 almost all moderate Democrats were kicked out of, or left, the party. This departure of moderates accelerated in 2020, leaving behind only the most hardcore radicalized extremists in the party

Many current well-known Republicans today are FORMER Democrats, including Donald Trump, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Tulsi Gabbard, and Elon Musk. They were all kicked out of the party for having what most sane individuals would consider moderate beliefs

There are no moderate Democrats left now in the party. Remember this tonight, and going forward

Brazil turned just like that, and I lost count of how many friends I lost for that reason. It's stupid how mankind turned that way

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

I don't really want to pontificate too much about this in the middle of the night, but the reality is that starting around 2016 almost all moderate Democrats were kicked out of, or left, the party.

Both sides have radicalised. It's a well known effect. There are several causes, including: the rise of partisan media, algorithm created echo chambers, gerrymandered seats pushing parties to the extreme, etc...

Don't you even remember when moderate republicans were called RINOS? That's radicalisation. The days when a black man became president and people on the right threw fits about tan suits and didn't want to believe he was a legitimate president because they concocted the lie that he wasn't born in America. Hell, Trump was a prominent birther at the time.

You just don't realise because you're a republican.

And now, it's been more than 20 years of this, and the radicalisation is generational. I fear things will turn ugly.

 

[Portugeezer]

We've seen this before. Rename it to purple sky.

 

[Madserb2023]

So the people screaming fascist are the ones that celebrate when their political opponents get murdered. Could you imagine bringing back Hitler and explaining to him that the people who celebrated on October 11th were the anti fascists. Ah yes, Hitler, the vegetarian who preferred Muslims to Jews and even Slavic Christians. Sounds exactly like Charlie Kirk.

 

[Scrawnton]

Both sides have radicalised. It's a well known effect. There are several causes, including: the rise of partisan media, algorithm created echo chambers, gerrymandered seats pushing parties to the extreme, etc...

Don't you even remember when moderate republicans were called RINOS? That's radicalisation. The days when a black man became president and people on the right threw fits about tan suits and didn't want to believe he was a legitimate president because they concocted the lie that he wasn't born in America. Hell, Trump was a prominent birther at the time.

You just don't realise because you're a republican.

And now, it's been more than 20 years of this, and the radicalisation is generational. I fear things will turn ugly.

I anecdotally disagree with this. Yes there are crazy people on the right just like the left, but in my daily life I have no issues talking to my neighbors who all fly trump flags.

Even during Trumps assassination attempt. I had a Biden flag (the only one in a 200 house area) out and they all (about forty houses) had Trump flags out. They talked to me. We discussed. We shared in our uncertainty about everyone's future and we felt sympathy.

When I discuss anything with anyone that's left leaning they are extremely close minded and have a "fuck them, good" attitude about anything bad that happens to the right. As a blue voting straight white man I always noticed more dialogue and willingness to understand from people on the right than I ever have with people on the left, mostly beside they have a chip on their shoulder because I'm a straight white man.

The problem the left is having right now is that they are too busy celebrating and they can't see how this is BAD FOR EVERYONE. Assassinating a political rival does not end well for anyone at all. It never has.

Fucking case in point, after JFK was assassinated, it lead to events where presidents got the power of kings to mobilize the military without any congressional approval for 90 days. We should be worried what this leads to.

 

[3liteDragon]

There's no moderate option for this. They'll get what's coming to them.

 

[MilkyJoe]

If any of you needed confirmation that the left are the bad guys, then there you go.

 

[The Sum of Zero]

There's no moderate option for this. They'll get what's coming to them.

You advocating for reciprocal violence is part of the problem, too.

 

[JimmyRustler]

So we got people excusing the stabbing of the Ukrainian women and celebrating the killing of Charlie Kirk.

America's wild. Stay safe bros.

 

[Lukaku's First Touch]

Is it even confirmed the shooter was a crazy leftist?

Wasn't the guy trying to kill Trump a registered republican?

 

[Eesha]

Is it even confirmed the shooter was a crazy leftist?

Wasn't the guy trying to kill Trump a registered republican?

The killer wasn't captured yet, so we don't know.