analog_future
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I clicked on this thread hoping for a totally different vibe in here
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Game Developers celebrating assassination of Charlie Kirk (Sucker Punch, Bungie, The Coalition etc) [Update] Sucker Punch Dev Fired
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ThatOneGrunt
Member
Just looks like free speech to me.
ShadyAcshuns
Member
Only two ways I'd play it: free game or Sony/SP fixes the rot they have in the studio.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Thanks to mods for making a separate thread.
As for the event, here's my views on stuff based on what happened and what other people's views are about the event and SP employee tweet (and other peers liking it). I'm going to do bullet points since it's easier to write and easier to read instead of paragraphs.
Event
- I watched the video clip once and wont do it again. It was sickening and I dont think I have ever seen something like that
- Unless it's something truly heinous like Hitler trying to take over the world and killing millions of people in his way; killing celebs, politicians or personalities is a huge no-no. Just because you dont like what someone says, you dont just kill the guy and cheer. You got to be the lowest brow person in the world to think that's the way the world should work. I had to google who Charlie Kirk is when it happened. It turns out he's a big political personality. Not an actual councilman, mayor or anything like that. Google check says he's had one official gov job something to do with a military academy. So whomever killed him didnt even kill a government official. He killed a personality similar to sports where a bunch of people on TV or YT commentate on the game, but never actually played the game or worked on a pro team. So Charlie Kirk pissed off someone so much, even a non-official is fair game to be killed. Crazy
Boycott or no boycott
- Well, that's up to you. You can be indifferent, boycott the game, boycott SP, boycott Sony, there's actually a wide spectrum of how much someone can boycott something
- And that's ok, because everyone has their own view on the event and purchasing support. Do what you want and respect other people's choice.
- For me, I'll be honest. I dont really give a shit about what employees say about politics regarding making me buy or not buy. Maybe if it's something really in my face and so bad it resembles a Live Leak feed, I'd boycott. But for dumb tweets I ignore them and just buy stuff based on whether I like the product itself and it's worth the price. I'm not going to dig into every company's history of ethics, dig into employee's histories about code of conduct issues or anything like that. COD is my most fav gaming series overall I put the most time in. I dont play it so much anymore as I got burnt out of it, but those 360 days I played COD probably everyday. I really dont give a shit what dumb stuff Bobby Kotick and gang did. Nor do I care what dopey things employees have said on Twitter like confidential memos or political stupidity. I just like playing COD since the first game I played which was COD 2. If anyone wants to boycott COD or Activision as a whole, or now MS overall go ahead. That's your choice and it's fine what you want to do
Who's to blame?
- It's easy to say every person is responsible for their own actions. And I believe that holistically, but it gets to a point of stupidity among many sides
- Social Media. All the various sites that aggro people's fears and emotions into volatile bombs ready to set off. The companies dont care guys. They just wants users, ad money and you coming back to engage and keep the views counts up, posts up, and then they send those metrics to anyone itching to advertise. They also do bots. My good buddy worked at a dating site in marketing and he even laughed and admitted they create a lot of fake profiles themselves to get users engaged. The main goal is money
- Traditional Media. All I know is when I'd watch news channels decades ago, it was pretty straight laced. Sure they leaned a certain way, but at least acted professional. I dont remember watching CNN Headline News back in the day had crazy liberals ranting. I never had Fox News back then so I dont know what it was like. Never watched MSNBC either. But if I had to guess, I dont get a sense 20 years ago those two channels were parodies of political sides like now
I still watch business channels like CNBC ever since the dot com days (a lot of the same people who are now 50-60+ years old!). Guess what? CNBC is pretty same-ish like 25 years ago Talk business, show stats, do Q&A with CEOs. Same shit. But CNN now is like a circus of anti-Trump. And when I tune into Fox and MSNBC it's no different. Fox is full of giggling right leaning cast laughing at the left since Trump won, and MSNBC apes CNN. You got channels now not just mudslinging political sides, but even at each other's channels by name. That person on that channel sucks and is crying, this person on that network got fired haha etc... That's your modern day newscast maturity
- Government. I'm pretty sure the farther you go back in time, politicians, rallies, on stage debates, 60 Minutes interviews were more low key and mature. Modern day is a circus of stupidity where politicians try to one up each other on insults, accusations, getting celebs like Hulk Hogan and Beyonce to promote their side (which adds Hollywood circus). It's like a AAA budget game with great production values, but cruddy content
A bunch of politicians where most skew to 60 years old or more acting like college kids mudslinging jokes or agendas hoping someone takes them up on it (like those guys who vaguely post about killing Trump). If these leaders act like children trying to create rage, then youre going to get people who follow suit. Monkey see, monkey do. And even though I like Trump's business side, his loud abrasive side is weird and gets to a point of being off putting. I can take a joke and like laughing at the whole circus, but it sure is immature when he'd go on Twitter and call out anyone he doesn't like a Loser. He's a loser, she's a loser. He did a bad job, so did she. Fire them. What kind of leadership is that? No wonder so many people act dumb following in any politician's footsteps
- People. Regardless of what stupidity there is in front of you, you still got to be your own man and try to control yourself. You dont go around doxxing, shooting people and things like that just because someone is the other side of the political spectrum. It's really got out of hand. And that links up to social media a lot since that's how a lot of it spreads. Before the net, crazies can only do so much. With the net, it becomes cross country and global
- I've always had a view that good education and jobs solves lots of issues for people's lives. It gives purpose, keeps you busy and makes you money. The more self sufficient you and your fam are with knowledge, career and money, the less you care about gov and political angles because unless something truly affects you directly (like one side can determine whether you ship out on military campaigns or sit home), a lot of political stuff wont affect you as much. But for those people close to the bottom relies heavy on hot topics. And that's where gov officials got you by the neck. So when each side acts extreme, so will many supporters because they need their side to win for survival money and services etc...
That's my rant!
As for the event, here's my views on stuff based on what happened and what other people's views are about the event and SP employee tweet (and other peers liking it). I'm going to do bullet points since it's easier to write and easier to read instead of paragraphs.
Event
- I watched the video clip once and wont do it again. It was sickening and I dont think I have ever seen something like that
- Unless it's something truly heinous like Hitler trying to take over the world and killing millions of people in his way; killing celebs, politicians or personalities is a huge no-no. Just because you dont like what someone says, you dont just kill the guy and cheer. You got to be the lowest brow person in the world to think that's the way the world should work. I had to google who Charlie Kirk is when it happened. It turns out he's a big political personality. Not an actual councilman, mayor or anything like that. Google check says he's had one official gov job something to do with a military academy. So whomever killed him didnt even kill a government official. He killed a personality similar to sports where a bunch of people on TV or YT commentate on the game, but never actually played the game or worked on a pro team. So Charlie Kirk pissed off someone so much, even a non-official is fair game to be killed. Crazy
Boycott or no boycott
- Well, that's up to you. You can be indifferent, boycott the game, boycott SP, boycott Sony, there's actually a wide spectrum of how much someone can boycott something
- And that's ok, because everyone has their own view on the event and purchasing support. Do what you want and respect other people's choice.
- For me, I'll be honest. I dont really give a shit about what employees say about politics regarding making me buy or not buy. Maybe if it's something really in my face and so bad it resembles a Live Leak feed, I'd boycott. But for dumb tweets I ignore them and just buy stuff based on whether I like the product itself and it's worth the price. I'm not going to dig into every company's history of ethics, dig into employee's histories about code of conduct issues or anything like that. COD is my most fav gaming series overall I put the most time in. I dont play it so much anymore as I got burnt out of it, but those 360 days I played COD probably everyday. I really dont give a shit what dumb stuff Bobby Kotick and gang did. Nor do I care what dopey things employees have said on Twitter like confidential memos or political stupidity. I just like playing COD since the first game I played which was COD 2. If anyone wants to boycott COD or Activision as a whole, or now MS overall go ahead. That's your choice and it's fine what you want to do
Who's to blame?
- It's easy to say every person is responsible for their own actions. And I believe that holistically, but it gets to a point of stupidity among many sides
- Social Media. All the various sites that aggro people's fears and emotions into volatile bombs ready to set off. The companies dont care guys. They just wants users, ad money and you coming back to engage and keep the views counts up, posts up, and then they send those metrics to anyone itching to advertise. They also do bots. My good buddy worked at a dating site in marketing and he even laughed and admitted they create a lot of fake profiles themselves to get users engaged. The main goal is money
- Traditional Media. All I know is when I'd watch news channels decades ago, it was pretty straight laced. Sure they leaned a certain way, but at least acted professional. I dont remember watching CNN Headline News back in the day had crazy liberals ranting. I never had Fox News back then so I dont know what it was like. Never watched MSNBC either. But if I had to guess, I dont get a sense 20 years ago those two channels were parodies of political sides like now
I still watch business channels like CNBC ever since the dot com days (a lot of the same people who are now 50-60+ years old!). Guess what? CNBC is pretty same-ish like 25 years ago Talk business, show stats, do Q&A with CEOs. Same shit. But CNN now is like a circus of anti-Trump. And when I tune into Fox and MSNBC it's no different. Fox is full of giggling right leaning cast laughing at the left since Trump won, and MSNBC apes CNN. You got channels now not just mudslinging political sides, but even at each other's channels by name. That person on that channel sucks and is crying, this person on that network got fired haha etc... That's your modern day newscast maturity
- Government. I'm pretty sure the farther you go back in time, politicians, rallies, on stage debates, 60 Minutes interviews were more low key and mature. Modern day is a circus of stupidity where politicians try to one up each other on insults, accusations, getting celebs like Hulk Hogan and Beyonce to promote their side (which adds Hollywood circus). It's like a AAA budget game with great production values, but cruddy content
A bunch of politicians where most skew to 60 years old or more acting like college kids mudslinging jokes or agendas hoping someone takes them up on it (like those guys who vaguely post about killing Trump). If these leaders act like children trying to create rage, then youre going to get people who follow suit. Monkey see, monkey do. And even though I like Trump's business side, his loud abrasive side is weird and gets to a point of being off putting. I can take a joke and like laughing at the whole circus, but it sure is immature when he'd go on Twitter and call out anyone he doesn't like a Loser. He's a loser, she's a loser. He did a bad job, so did she. Fire them. What kind of leadership is that? No wonder so many people act dumb following in any politician's footsteps
- People. Regardless of what stupidity there is in front of you, you still got to be your own man and try to control yourself. You dont go around doxxing, shooting people and things like that just because someone is the other side of the political spectrum. It's really got out of hand. And that links up to social media a lot since that's how a lot of it spreads. Before the net, crazies can only do so much. With the net, it becomes cross country and global
- I've always had a view that good education and jobs solves lots of issues for people's lives. It gives purpose, keeps you busy and makes you money. The more self sufficient you and your fam are with knowledge, career and money, the less you care about gov and political angles because unless something truly affects you directly (like one side can determine whether you ship out on military campaigns or sit home), a lot of political stuff wont affect you as much. But for those people close to the bottom relies heavy on hot topics. And that's where gov officials got you by the neck. So when each side acts extreme, so will many supporters because they need their side to win for survival money and services etc...
That's my rant!
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yurinka
Member
No.
At least in my case, what I'm asking for is that companies should tell their employees something that for me is common sense: that it's ok to disagree and debate, but not to publicly celebrate and ask for the murdering of people just because they disagree regarding politics, specially in a country like USA where there are issues with both guns and mental health.
Minimum they should delete the related posts/likes and maybe even apologize. And maybe they should consider to fire them (they must be just a few people, a tiny portion of the few thousand people who must have worked in their game).
Specially in the case of public companies because these things can negatively affect their stock value, and specially in the case of studios who will release a game very soon because it may negatively impact its sales, so the studio, company and rest of coworkers.
And ideally companies should do it confidentially, in closed doors, to avoid publicly harass people, doxxing, etc. and to avoid creating potential additional controversies (as could be in this case wokies mentioning they were fired because of their political views instead of because of cheering murder).
And if things escalate -pretty likely will once people like Asmongold make a video about this-, the studio or company should make a public statement saying that they condemn the assesination and that aren't ok with violence against people who disagree politically and cheering and wishing people to be murderded because of their political views.
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Kacho
Gold Member
It's just gaslighting.
The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
People cheering in here
Why are you here instead of Era?
Trying to spread your hateful ideology?
I'm surprised people haven't been banned.
I'm not against free speech, but there's consequences, and cheering for death of people should be a consequence and a bannable offense.
God forbid people you love will get the same thing happen to them.
You will get my empathy, but never my sympathy.
Why are you here instead of Era?
Trying to spread your hateful ideology?
I'm surprised people haven't been banned.
I'm not against free speech, but there's consequences, and cheering for death of people should be a consequence and a bannable offense.
God forbid people you love will get the same thing happen to them.
You will get my empathy, but never my sympathy.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
maybe not that explicity.
But right now I don't think there is anyone with the assertiveness and authority to smack down the retardation of both extremes with such powerful arguments and speech that each side would realize how embarrassing and despicable their behavior has been.
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
I couldn't agree with you more.
But we are in an environment of extreme partisanship. This is the result of that.
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You want this threadI clicked on this thread hoping for a totally different vibe in here
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/nsfw-best-butts-in-gaming.1509664/
Topher
Identifies as young
Perhaps so, but if someone decides to not spend their own money on a game then that is up to them. We've had much more trivial instances of that happening in the gaming industry that don't come close a situation like this.
ReyBrujo
Member
That's a contradictory statement.
The Thick Tyne
Gold Member
Ain't nobody reading dat bruddahThanks to mods for making a separate thread.
As for the event, here's my views on stuff based on what happened and what other people's views are about the event and SP employee tweet (and other peers liking it). I'm going to do bullet points since it's easier to write and easier to read instead of paragraphs.
Event
- A watched the video clip once and wont do it again. It was sickening and I dont think I have ever seen something like that
- Unless it's something truly heinous like Hitler trying to take over the world and killing millions of people in his way; killing celebs, politicians or personalities is a huge no-no. Just because you dont like what someone says, you dont just kill the guy and cheer. You got to be the lowest brow person in the world to think that's the way the world should work. I had to google who Charlie Kirk is when it happened. It turns out he's a big political personality. Not an actual councilman, mayor or anything like that. Google check says he's had one official gov job something to do with a military academy. So whomever killed him didnt even kill a government official. He killed a personality similar to sports where a bunch of people on TV or YT commentate on the game, but never actually played the game or worked on a pro team. So Charlie Kirk pissed off someone so much, even a non-official is fair game to be killed. Crazy
Boycott or no boycott
- Well, that's up to you. You can be indifferent, boycott the game, boycott MM, boycott Sony, there's actually a wide spectrum of how much someone can boycott something
- And that's ok, because everyone has their own view on the event and purchasing support. Do what you want and respect other people's choice.
- For me, I'll be honest. I dont really give a shit about what employee's say about politics regarding making me buy or not buy. Maybe if it's something really in my face and so bad it resembles a Live Leak feed, I'd boycott. But for dumb tweets I ignore them and just buy stuff based on whether I like the product itself and it's worth the price. I'm not going to dig into every company's history of ethics, dig into employee's histories about code of conduct issues or anything like that. COD is my most fav gaming series overall I put the most time in. I dont play it so much anymore as I got burnt out of it, but those 360 days I played COD probably everyday. I really dont give a shit what dumb stuff Bobby Kotick and gang did. Nor do I care what dopey things employees have said on Twtitter like confidential memos or political stupidity. I just like playing COD since the first game I played which was COD 2. If anyone wants to boycott COD or Activision as a whole, or now MS overall go ahead. That's your choice and it's fine what you want to do
Who's to blame?
- It's easy to say every person is responsible for their own actions. And I believe that holistically, but it gets to a point of stupidity among many sides
- Social Media. All the various sites that aggro people's fears and emotions into volatile bombs ready to set off. The companies dont care guys. They just wants users, ad money and you coming back to engage and keep the views counts up, posts up, and then they send those metrics to anyone itching to advertise. They also do bots. My good buddy worked at a dating site in marketing and he even laughed and admitted they create a lot of fake profiles themselves to get users engage. The main goal is money
- Traditional Media. All I know is when I'd watch news channels decades ago, it was pretty straight laced. Sure they leaned a certain way, but at least acted professional. I dont remember watching CNN Headline News back in the day had crazy liberals ranting. I never had Fox News back then so I dont know what it was like. Never watched MSNBC either. But if I had to guess, I dont get a sense 20 years ago those two channels were parodies of political sides like now
I still watch business channels like CNBC ever since the dot com days (a lot of the same people who are now 50-60+ years old!). Guess what? CNBC is pretty same-ish like 25 years ago Talk business, show stats, do Q&A with CEOs. Same shit. But CNN now is like a circus of anti-Trump. And when I tune into Fox and MSNBC it's no different. Fox is full of giggling right leaning cast laughing at the left since Trump won, and MSNBC apes CNN. You got channels now not just mudslinging political sides, but even at each other's channels by name. That person on that channel sucks and is crying, this person on that network got fired haha etc... That's your modern day newscast maturity
- Government. I'm pretty sure the farther you go back in time, politicians, rallies, on stage debates, 60 Minutes interviews were more low key and mature. Modern day is a circus of stupidity where politicians try to one up each other on insults, accusations, getting celebs like Hulk Hogan and Beyonce to promote their side (which adds Hollywood circus). It's like a AAA budget game with great production values, but cruddy content
A bunch of politicians where most skew to 60 years old or more acting like college kids mudslinging jokes or agendas hoping someone takes them up on it (like those guys who vaguely post about killing Trump). If these leaders act like children trying to create rage, then youre going to get people who follow suit. Monkey see, monkey do. And even though I like Trump's business side, his loud abrasive side is weird and gets to a point of being off putting. I can take a joke and like laughing at the whole circus, but it sure is immature when he'd go on Twitter and call out anyone he doesn't like a Loser. He's a loser, she's a loser. He did a bad job, so did she. Fire them. What kind of leadership is that? No wonder so many people act dumb following in any politician's footsteps
- People. Regardless of what stupidity there is in front of you, you still got to be your own man and try to control yourself. You dont go around doxxing, shooting people and things like that just because someone is the other side of the political spectrum. It's really got out of hand. And that links up to social media a lot since that's how a lot of it spreads. Before the net, crazies can only do so much. With the net, it becomes cross country and global
- I've always had a view that good education and jobs solves lots of issues for people's lives. It gives purpose, keeps you busy and makes you money. The more self sufficient you and your fam is with knowledge, career and money, the less you care about gov and political angles because unless something truly affects you directly (like one side can determine whether you ship out on military campaigns or sit home), a lot of political stuff wont affect you as much. But for those people close to the bottom relies heavy on hot topics. And that's where gov officials got you by the neck. So when each side acts extreme, so will many supporters because they need their side to win for survival money and services etc...
That's my rant!
FalsettoVibe
Member
This thread is crazy.
analog_future
Resident Crybaby
64gigabyteram
Reverse groomer.
till a sucker punch employee murders someone themselves, i dont think this should affect your purchase. They didn't get up on the roof and shoot charlie kirk themselves so 
Even making fun of a recently deceased person still falls under freedom of speech.
Even making fun of a recently deceased person still falls under freedom of speech.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
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ok... viral videos are coming from the internet army. Sony will have a party in PR
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DryvBy
Member
ChorizoPicozo
Member
i mean freedom of speech is not without consequences.... and evidently so. am i right?till a sucker punch employee murders someone themselves, i dont think this should affect your purchase. They didn't get up on the roof and shoot charlie kirk themselves so
Even making fun of a recently deceased person still falls under freedom of speech.
Omnipunctual Godot
Member
It is free speech. People have the choice to vote with their wallets. I don't like supporting devs who support political terrorism, so I won't be buying this game. Maybe you do, in which case you're certainly entitled to buy the game.
soulbait
Member
Is making comments about Charlie Kirk's pervious comments about the 2nd amendment, really celebrating his death? Or is it pointing out the irony of his comments and what he stood for to how he died?
Just because someone does not mourn someone else's death or points out their disagreements with that person, it does not mean they are celebrating the person's death.
I can understand if you see comments saying "I am glad he is dead", "I am thankful he was murdered" or something like that, questioning the person making those comments (and unfortunately I have seen those comments on Reddit and other places). However, if they are just pointing out their opinions of a controversial person it does not mean they are happy he is dead.
People make many tasteless comments on social media around high profile deaths all the time. And when it comes to politics, it happens on both sides of the aisle. Both left and right can be tasteless, and I cringe whenever I see it. But there is a difference between a tasteless comment about how you think a person who just died was a piece of shit in life, to actually celebrating their murder.
Emotions are high, it is really better for everyone to keep any comments to themselves at this time. Unfortantley, that is not the world we live in.
Just because someone does not mourn someone else's death or points out their disagreements with that person, it does not mean they are celebrating the person's death.
I can understand if you see comments saying "I am glad he is dead", "I am thankful he was murdered" or something like that, questioning the person making those comments (and unfortunately I have seen those comments on Reddit and other places). However, if they are just pointing out their opinions of a controversial person it does not mean they are happy he is dead.
People make many tasteless comments on social media around high profile deaths all the time. And when it comes to politics, it happens on both sides of the aisle. Both left and right can be tasteless, and I cringe whenever I see it. But there is a difference between a tasteless comment about how you think a person who just died was a piece of shit in life, to actually celebrating their murder.
Emotions are high, it is really better for everyone to keep any comments to themselves at this time. Unfortantley, that is not the world we live in.
Venom Snake
Member
The thing we sometimes forget is that freedom of speech does not impose any plot-armor on us.
Anyone who puts themselves on the frontlines of a ideological war, something that upsets a large grup of people, especially in a country where any crackhead can own a firearm, is putting themselves and their family at risk.
This does not, of course, justify any violence, but one should sometimes consider whether he is able to bear this cross and whether it is even worth bearing.
64gigabyteram
Reverse groomer.
freedom of speech to make fun of a dead charlie kirk freedom of speech to catch shit on the internet bcz of it.
Shifty1897
Member
I didn't care for the guy, but celebrating someone's murder is such a foreign concept to me.
The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
What? Free speech with consequences?
Are you really a mentally challenged psychopath, or just a troll choosing the wrong time trying to be funny?
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Edellus
Member
I did. If you can't bother to read elaborate people's opinions because it's too many words for you, then I suggest you instead go to places like X. There you can find memes and one liners attention seekers that don't use too many words.
GrayChild
Member
Tits >>>> assI clicked on this thread hoping for a totally different vibe in here
Therefore I'd still want them cancelled.
Shifty1897
Member
He supported the second amendment, but as I understand it he was all for the traditional conservative stance of being tougher on violent crime, which this obviously qualifies.
So no, I wouldn't say he supports his own murder.
kpopSuperstar
Member
Free speech is allowing idiots to voice dumb shit, it is not allowing people to say it without blaming then. Celebrating killing should be condemned in the same way as pedos and animal torturers, left or right, they should be allowed to say it but should also be chased out of town for doing so.
Real free speech problems is more about refusing to let the state control what is said, like under authoritative governments. It is not allowing people to be as vile as possible and just accept it as "free speech".
Real free speech problems is more about refusing to let the state control what is said, like under authoritative governments. It is not allowing people to be as vile as possible and just accept it as "free speech".
ReyBrujo
Member
And that's a slippery slope, an association fallacy. It's not, either you are against assassination thus don't buy the game, or are for assassination thus buy the game. He could just not care about that at all and enjoy the game nevertheless.
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coachmcguirk91
Member
It is both sides when shit like this happens. Acting morally superior because you can score political points now is terrible. The extremes of both political parties are a huge problem"bOtH sIdeS"
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‘War Is Here’: The Far-Right Responds to Charlie Kirk Shooting With Calls for Violence
Prominent far-right figures and elected officials have called for vengeance following the death of conservative activist Charlie Kirk.www.wired.com
Hope this helps
A lot of the quotes are mostly noise, two-thirds are irrelevant, pushing legal responses that have nothing to do with violence.
The others are more ambiguous ("gloves are off", "rise up", "this is war" etc). They suggest confrontation but vague enough to be read as political or legal posturing.
Personally I wouldn't put these on the same level as the targeted gloating from the left celebrating a murder. Or "do Trump/Elon next!"
But thanks for pointing to examples
StereoVsn
Gold Member
I don't think people are cheering. It's more a lot of us are just tired of senseless political violence and in general gun violence.
Both right and left increasingly call for political violence. And the right refuses to do anything, even bare minimum, for gun control.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
You arent against free speech just want consequences such as silencing people who express free speech?
P.S
Name (quote) the people cheering Kirks death in this thread.
Mods will run through the thread soon enough and make their decisions
Or is it a hypothetical set of posters cheering his death spreading a hypothetical hateful ideology?
David Ricardo
Member
Some people in this thread decided not to buy Ghost of Yotei because of outrageous social media posts by some devs.
I decided not to buy it long ago, when I discovered they changed the protagonist from a guy to a woman and the actress was a non binary pansexual defund the police activist. That meant there were crazy woke devs in the team that will deliberately prioritize making a game that aligns with their ideology over making a game people would like to play.
Now, It´s to be expected from that kind of extremists to celebrate the death of somebody who disagrees with them politically. So, yes, they made horrible statements online. But I´m not skipping the game because of that. I´m skipping the game because the people who would make those statements is the kind of people who would make a lame woke boring game.
I decided not to buy it long ago, when I discovered they changed the protagonist from a guy to a woman and the actress was a non binary pansexual defund the police activist. That meant there were crazy woke devs in the team that will deliberately prioritize making a game that aligns with their ideology over making a game people would like to play.
Now, It´s to be expected from that kind of extremists to celebrate the death of somebody who disagrees with them politically. So, yes, they made horrible statements online. But I´m not skipping the game because of that. I´m skipping the game because the people who would make those statements is the kind of people who would make a lame woke boring game.
Bojji
Gold Member
I think the concept is that you can say anything (as long as it isn't some death threat) and law won't punish you for this.
BUT, people around you might, and no one is gonna guarantee the outcome.
Free speech:
People reacting to it:
Same is true for SP (and others) devs celebrating death of a human being. They should be aware that saying something like this publicly may lead to outcomes that they may not like.
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The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
Isn't it kinda ironic, that the side that wants more gun control, are the ones using guns to cowardly kill people who's against gun control?
Arsic
Loves his juicy stink trail scent
Celebrating the death of any person in front of his wife and kids is insane to me.
Your political stance warped your mind so bad that you cheer this kind of shit on?
I generally try to separate the person from the art when possible, but Sucker Punch seems to be plagued top to bottom.
I'll be tossing all my ghost of Tsushima merch. Even the wall art I have at my set up, and they can go fuck themselves.
I'm not even republican lol. Are you this dim witted?
Your political stance warped your mind so bad that you cheer this kind of shit on?
I generally try to separate the person from the art when possible, but Sucker Punch seems to be plagued top to bottom.
I'll be tossing all my ghost of Tsushima merch. Even the wall art I have at my set up, and they can go fuck themselves.
I'm not even republican lol. Are you this dim witted?
\m/etalStorm
Member
I don't agree with most of Kirks opinions.
But these people, they cry if you use wrong pronouns but celebrate cold-blooded murder and the fact that two kids now grow up without their dad.
Sick world.
But these people, they cry if you use wrong pronouns but celebrate cold-blooded murder and the fact that two kids now grow up without their dad.
Sick world.
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The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
Twisting my words like a proud leftist.You arent against free speech just want consequences such as silencing people who express free speech?
P.S
Name (quote) the people cheering Kirks death in this thread.
Mods will run through the thread soon enough and make their decisions
Or is it a hypothetical set of posters cheering his death spreading a hypothetical hateful ideology?
Want my address as well and time on when I'm home so you can put a hoodie on and load your Glock before knocking politely on my door?
StereoVsn
Gold Member
It's same shit. Left was shitting up social for violence (and now celebrating).
Right is shitting up social media calling for political violence and were laughing about Pelosi's husband being attacked or about Minnesota politicians assassinations.
It's the same shit in both sides and it needs to be knocked off.
StereoVsn
Gold Member
It's rather ironic that the side which is religious only offers thoughts and prayers to kids being killed on daily basis. Yesterday a Colorado school was shot up.
Knock off with your "ironic" bullshit. It applies to both sides.
Edit: Personally I greatly dislike both parties now days. Each has gotten taken over by extreme elements basically.
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Omnipunctual Godot
Member
The topic of this thread is literally a dev posting, "I hope the shooter's name is Mario so Luigi knows his bro got his back." Be serious.