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[HeisenbergFX4]

That AI enhancement is very dangerous if its not 100% spot on

 

[AJUMP23]

EU is pretty horrific.

 

[DragoonKain]

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Just yesterday, my oldest friend broke up with me. A different one. I'm now down to three or four friends from before 2022, when I shocked my liberal circle by joining The Free Press.

It wasn't lost on me that this happened within hours of the news of Charlie Kirk's murder. If there was ever a time for coming together, it was now.

And yet here she was, telling me that she didn't want to associate with me anymore because of who I am. When we discussed certain issues like Israel, she realized we actually weren't that far apart. We both believe in a two state solution and want the war to end. And yet, she couldn't knock her overwhelming suspicion that I was bad.

She said it as kindly as possible but uninvited me from her wedding.

There is something wrong in this country.

What happened yesterday is not an aberration—it is who we are becoming. We are a nation that celebrated Luigi Mangione, Biden's cancer diagnosis, and now the murder of Kirk.

If we keep heading down this road, we won't need enemies abroad—we'll destroy ourselves from within.
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I find myself fortunate that while I have a good amount of friends, I have a very close much smaller circle of friends who we'd all take a bullet for one another. And I don't know many of their political opinions on things. And even if I did I wouldn't care one way or the other. Nor them for me. Incidents like hers are indicators that person was friends with her not because she valued her as a friend but likely what her friend got out of it. Because if you actually care about another person, feel some way about them, and value them, something so small would not make any difference. And her "friend" or now ex-friend is not going to have many friends that way. It's a good way to feel empty and lonely. Which I suspect a lot of people are, because according to polling we've never had more anxiety or depression as a society and we've never had less sex.

 

[Giallo Corsa]

You're a fucking jackass.

Edit: Is it still funny, dude? Are we still LoLing?

How's that stability? Any other kernels of medical wisdom about how stable a man is after having his throat blown the fuck out by a high powered rifle.

The time to be "above it all," quirky chungus assholes is over with. You're part of the problem, until you can stop being a coffee table contrarian.

It's deaftourette man, it's just how he rolls, always the victim, always with the persecution complex, always triggered, he's one of the most "purple" members in here.

 

[AJUMP23]

Mike Rowe thoughts.

 

[Kacho]

 

[3liteDragon]

 

[Mr Moose]

Disgusting people. There's many comments like this. "<name> next!", Cunts.

 

[Kacho]

Disgusting people. There's many comments like this. "<name> next!", Cunts.

Yep. Let them keep digging.

 

[EviLore]

 

[3liteDragon]

 

[th4tguy]

EU is pretty horrific.

Why would any EU government hold moments of silence for tv personalities from other countries? Seems weird.

 

[jason10mm]

It's deaftourette man, it's just how he rolls, always the victim, always with the persecution complex, always triggered, he's one of the most "purple" members in here.

He's (usually) respectful. He has the type of difference of opinion we should value because his perspective is pretty different froma lot of other dudes here. I don't always agree with him, he's a giant saggy booty man for gods sake, doesn't have the right appreciation of a slim taunt "bounce a quarter off dat ass!" peach but that doesn't mean I don't appreciate him.

We can disagree here, even get heated. When that happens just step back, take 10, and reengage on a less polarizing topic to find common ground.

Or just use the ignore feature and have a sunnier day.

 

[TheInfamousKira]

He's (usually) respectful. He has the type of difference of opinion we should value because his perspective is pretty different froma lot of other dudes here. I don't always agree with him, he's a giant saggy booty man for gods sake, doesn't have the right appreciation of a slim taunt "bounce a quarter off dat ass!" peach but that doesn't mean I don't appreciate him.

We can disagree here, even get heated. When that happens just step back, take 10, and reengage on a less polarizing topic to find common ground.

Or just use the ignore feature and have a sunnier day.

There's a time and place for everything, and likewise people who don't have watches.

 

[MidGenRefresh]

Also the eagle. Also the fact it looks kinda like that Butler guy who played Elvis.

Yeah, it's obvious once viewed on the big screen, but on a small phone it might trick people.

 

[AJUMP23]

Why would any EU government hold moments of silence for tv personalities from other countries? Seems weird.

I think the guy says to condemn political violence. Which while I'm inclined to agree with you, they do not owe anything to a US commentator, but given parliamentary rules the speaker may do what he wishes with his time. Even if it is to be silent. Condemning political violence is a good thing.

 

[Lokaum D+]

man..... thats just too sad

EviLore where is a sad reaction emote when we need one ?

 

[DeVeAn]

I could not do it today. I work at a college. The moment I pulled in the parking lot I had to turn around and go back home…Holy spirit is burning a hole in my chest.

 

[Anthony Soprano]

What we are seeing here seems to be the outcome of a decade long dehumanisation of the people on the right.

We started hearing that 'Trump is a nazi', 'Hitler' even. Then the word 'literal' was added to the mix, to make sure that the dehumanisation isn't seen as just symbolic - 'Elon is a literal nazi'.

Very few people would disagree with that Hitler deserved to die, or that Nazis involved in the genocide should have been killed. When you repeat for years that the right are 'literal nazies', even fairly mainstream, probably mostly well-meaning people like Kotaku editors and Bungie / Suckerpunch developers come to dehumanise the right to an extent where they celebrate the assassination of a 'literal nazi' - a dad with controversial right wing opinions who wanted to engage in verbal debate with the left.

Basically, 'literal nazis' in 2020s is what 'rats/parasites' were in the 1930s-1940s, or what 'cockroaches' were in 1994. A way to dehumanise a group of people to the point that a large mainstream audience accepts their extermination.

I think the analogy they are making is that he is celebrating and spreading hate speech, much like Hans Fritzsche or Robert Ley. Those guys weren't nazi cabinet members, but they were for all intents and purposes supporters of a fascist leader and spread hate speech.

Just did a quick search for some of his more radical ideologies, they are easy to find now as more articles are popping up that are curating them:

Kirk was an equal opportunity hater who called Martin Luther King, Jr. "awful," and "not a good person," while insisting, "We made a huge mistake when we passed the Civil Rights Act in the 1960s."

In his gruesome rage against affirmative action and diversity, equity, and inclusion, Kirk also spat out, "If I see a Black pilot, I'm going to be like, 'Boy, I hope he's qualified.'"

Kirk called gay and transgender people "groomers" who are "destructive," opposed gay marriage, and campaigned against gender-affirming care for transgender people, insisting, "We must ban trans-affirming care—the entire country. Donald Trump needs to run on this issue," Media Matters reported.

Black women in public life were also targets. He called journalist Joy Reid, former First Lady Michelle Obama, Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, and Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson "affirmative action picks," claiming they did not "have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously."

He blamed a Black fire chief in Austin, Texas, for flooding deaths that occurred a three-hour drive away from the city.

Even as the nation embraced Juneteenth as a federal holiday commemorating emancipation, Kirk denounced it. "Juneteenth should not be a federal holiday," he wrote on social media in June. In a video, he argued, "This holiday is not about celebrating emancipation regardless of the veneer they put on it."

Do you need me to explain to you why these types of ideologies are nazi adjascent? When you have someone that endorses such hateful rhetoric and also backs a president who is involved in the Epstein coverup, it's easy to see why someone might consider this person evil. Would you accept klan adjascent instead of nazi as a more fitting proposal?

 

[Hayabusabruh]

The video really messed me up yesterday morning. Everyone saying I hope he's okay, made me think he got grazed or something, So when I watched the video I wasn't expecting to see what I saw. All the "I hope he's okay, almost felt like sarcasm.

 

[Madflavor]

Is there an actual source that his family was there?

 

[12Goblins]

That AI enhancement is very dangerous if its not 100% spot on

Yeah thats so irresponsible it's crazy

 

[Lokaum D+]

The video really messed me up yesterday morning. Everyone saying I hope he's okay, made me think he got grazed or something, So when I watched the video I wasn't expecting to see what I saw. All the "I hope he's okay, almost felt like sarcasm.

if you watched the close up video you knew he was done at the spot, it made me sick for a couple hours too

 

[Senua]

The video really messed me up yesterday morning. Everyone saying I hope he's okay, made me think he got grazed or something, So when I watched the video I wasn't expecting to see what I saw. All the "I hope he's okay, almost felt like sarcasm.

Because there wasn't a close up video when we initially posted, it was edited in later

 

[Mr Moose]

Is there an actual source that his family was there?

The family was reportedly present on the Utah campus on Wednesday when the tragedy unfolded, and it subsequently emerged that Erika had shared a Bible verse about seeking help during difficult times just hours before she lost her husband.

What we know about Charlie Kirk’s family

Conservative activist shot dead in Utah was married and had two small children

www.independent.co.uk

 

[DeafTourette]

You're a fucking jackass.

Edit: Is it still funny, dude? Are we still LoLing?

How's that stability? Any other kernels of medical wisdom about how stable a man is after having his throat blown the fuck out by a high powered rifle.

The time to be "above it all," quirky chungus assholes is over with. You're part of the problem, until you can stop being a coffee table contrarian.

Coming back to reply because you decided to show your ass and misunderstood.

The LoL wasn't about his death because AT THAT TIME, no one knew for sure. I read that he was stable and hospitalized. Per the AP.

And the LoL was about dude insinuating there will be white riots. Not about his death.

 

[near]

 

[kruis]

I haven't heard his reasoning, but I assume it's similar to something like philosopher Paul Bloom's argument that demanding "empathy" from others is mainly a tool for emotional manipulation, very much distinct from acting compassionately while in control of your emotions—as, e.g., a doctor would.

Again, you may not agree but it's hardly cartoon villain stuff.

I've got the impression that many if not all of Charlie Kirk's hot takes are cherry picked. Kirk makes an explosive statement that he then explains and puts in a different light, but the cherry picked quote never provides the original/additional context. For example his statement that the civil rights act of 1964 was a mistake. Seems pretty crazy, but Kirk was more or less rephrasing Thomas Sowell's points that blacks were generally worse off since the 1960 compared to previous generations.

 

[Trilobit]

People saying that Kirk only has himself to blame for the things he said reminds me of how in Sweden an immigrant was murdered by muslims after having burned the quran and spoken up against islam. Many Swedes blamed him for his death.

 

[Idleyes]

Have you even seen the photo of the guy? Wtf are you talking about

The comment you're replying to was posted yesterday at 8:12 PM and was in response to a tweet showing the first person of interest being arrested (if I recall correctly). What I said about that first person of interest turned out to be correct, since he was later released.

I think the misunderstanding here is that you assumed the tweet was about the current person of interest, the individual in the black shirt with the American flag and wearing sunglasses. That was not the person shown in the tweet I was responding to.

With that said, could you dial back the attitude in how you address my comments? I'm more than willing to keep this exchange respectful but if you rather I act like an asshole, I'm happy to help you with that.

 

[Nocty]

do we have any actual verified evidence of a shooter being found yet? I'm seeing all sorts of shit on twitter and other platforms, but nothing verified or backed up by official sources

There are a lot of people talking about how strange it was that Benjamin Netanyahu of all people was the first to post about him being dead, long before any US sources and how it was really soon after the assassination. It's a little weird indeed. He was supposedly invited to Israel not a few weeks ago and declined the offer, which makes you wonder why BN suddenly has a flood of condolences before anyone else...

Also seeing people talk about a weapon / casing found which had trans activist writing on it, again unconfirmed... I hate the internet.

 

[12Goblins]

People saying that Kirk only has himself to blame for the things he said reminds me of how in Sweden an immigrant was murdered by muslims after having burned qurans and spoken up against islam. Many Swedes blamed him for his death.

What's crazy is progressives were all in with that victim blaming shit few years afo, but it seems to have gone out the window

 

[DragoonKain]

Curious how many people cheering or justifying his death because of his views on race, women's rights, and LGBTQ issues are also supporters of Hamas in that conflict. I'd be willing to bet quite a bit.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Interestingly, in this conversation I was the only one who provided numbers.

Also, trying to argue that fox is center... seriously.

Listen man, the way the media and everything has worked I do understand the way Fox works and I specifically has said probably in the other thread that while Fox does have its own deal of commentary they are closer to the center than what the left is. I have specifically said that and I've had discussions with coworkers and friends about it and said the same thing. Yeah it sucks and you know what this level of civility you wouldn't be seeing elsewhere. People would be telling you to f off or screw off or get the hell out of here like I was told on the other forum for simply not agreeing to all the LGBQ standards and I set it in the most civil way and I was banned for it.

And people do have a right to be upset as I've constantly heard from the media about lawfare and other things that the left has been doing. I'm sure some have seen those mene pics showing that the left is securing the right of what they did.

The issue stinks and I have and will continue to be civil. These are salient points that have to be addressed by the majority of media

 

[TheInfamousKira]

Coming back to reply because you decided to show your ass and misunderstood.

The LoL wasn't about his death because AT THAT TIME, no one knew for sure. I read that he was stable and hospitalized. Per the AP.

And the LoL was about dude insinuating there will be white riots. Not about his death.

I gathered that.

And what is so funny about that? Is it the notion that the White man is too much of a bitch to stand up for their own after a week of hard news story after the next about violence on Whites?

Seriously, I don't know what you're chucklefucking about in this situation. Misunderstood? You'd need something complex for me to chew on for misunderstanding to enter the chat. No, that wasn't misunderstanding, that was a fucking call out over the fact that I am HEAVILY questioning the sanity and intentions of anyone "LoL,"ing at ANYTHING in this story.

Seriously. Learn 2 human.

 

[YCoCg]

There is some deep irony here, all these people coming out about how the left are vile and how "it's up to us", no confidence at all they would have same reaction if Pelosi actually died. Is it true that Kirk wanted that pelosi attacker freed? What about those democrats assisinated a few months ago?

When your entire schtick is deep rooted in some very fine grained, sophisticated hypocrisy, it's just hard to take seriously. Just trying to be real.

Just because he advocated for political violence doesn't mean he deserved to die from it, you could say it's poetic in the same way that a highly known left winger who advocates for immigration getting stabbed to death by an illegal but not deserved.

Too many of us here are getting caught up on his views and ideals when in the grand scheme that still doesn't mean he deserved to be killed for these views. It's a slippery slope if we start pushing for people killing each over because of their views on politics.

 

[poppabk]

Her response seems completely respectful?

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

Listen man, the way the media and everything has worked I do understand the way Fox works and I specifically has said probably in the other thread that while Fox does have its own deal of commentary they are closer to the center than what the left is. I have specifically said that and I've had discussions with coworkers and friends about it and said the same thing. Yeah it sucks and you know what this level of civility you wouldn't be seeing elsewhere. People would be telling you to f off or screw off or get the hell out of here like I was told on the other forum for simply not agreeing to all the LGBQ standards and I set it in the most civil way and I was banned for it.

And people do have a right to be upset as I've constantly heard from the media about lawfare and other things that the left has been doing. I'm sure some have seen those mene pics showing that the left is securing the right of what they did.

The issue stinks and I have and will continue to be civil. These are salient points that have to be addressed by the majority of media

Fox is not, and has never been center.

They might not be deranged and conspirationa, but that doesn't mean they aren't firmly on the right. Media ideological bias tracking, both those done by committee and those done by asking the people what they think, firmly puts fox on the right. You're only arguing this to validate your victimism that has been fashionable on right wing circles for decades.

 

[FullMetalx117]

Just because he advocated for political violence doesn't mean he deserved to die from it, you could say it's poetic in the same way that a highly known left winger who advocates for immigration getting stabbed to death by an illegal but not deserved.

Too many of us here are getting caught up on his views and ideals when in the grand scheme that still doesn't mean he deserved to be killed for these views. It's a slippery slope if we start pushing for people killing each over because of their views on politics.

I agree 100% no violence of any kind, on both sides of the aisle. I'm just saying similar people who are trying to throw platitudes now absolutely would not have done the same for pelosi/democrats assassinated (in fact they didn't for the assasinated democrats right?). Unless you think I'm wrong. It feels less genuine coming from those people

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Why would any EU government hold moments of silence for tv personalities from other countries? Seems weird.

the only weird thing is not understanding what just happend

 

[Ursus Vindicant]

Her response seems completely respectful?

Yeah I saw that and didnt understand it either. They need to remove her entry.

 

[Kacho]

 

[thefool]

If that purple dogshit website shuts down, lets hope they don't flood this one

 

[Uncle Moe]

 

[12Goblins]

Just because he advocated for political violence doesn't mean he deserved to die from it, you could say it's poetic in the same way that a highly known left winger who advocates for immigration getting stabbed to death by an illegal but not deserved.

I think leftists/progressives would be much happier if he survived and changed his views on the rampant gun problem in the US

 

[Boss Mog]

 

[Punished Miku]

Super Saiyan Karen alert.

History Books: On 9/11, the largest number of managers were spoken to ever.

 

[ByWatterson]

The most significant American political assassination since 1968.

And the politics will change just as much as they did then. The right is done playing around, and will stretch the Constitution to its limits.

And they should.

 

[LordOfChaos]

I agree 100% no violence of any kind, on both sides of the aisle. I'm just saying similar people who are trying to throw platitudes now absolutely would not have done the same for pelosi/democrats assassinated (in fact they didn't for the assasinated democrats right?). Unless you think I'm wrong. It feels less genuine coming from those people

There's plenty of people on either side who lose their morals as soon as it's someone they didn't like, for sure.

 

[Madflavor]

What's crazy is progressives were all in with that victim blaming shit few years afo, but it seems to have gone out the window

A lot of things have gone out the window for them. Rules for Thee but not for Me. They are aware of this, and they don't care. Because it was never about making the world a better and more peaceful place. It was about control. You either subscribe to our beliefs, or else. So now they've grown desperate because their side is losing, and violence has become their language.

When you start trying to win by resorting to violence, you've lost the argument.