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[FullMetalx117]

Stephen king not holding back

 

[kevboard]

Stephen king not holding back

I mean... it's true... he did argue against homosexuality by using the famous bible quote.
let's not act like people have to think this guy was a good person just because he died.

 

[12Goblins]

The fuck?

I mean you cant just say hateful and evil shit and expect them not to hate you.



Everyone right now is frothing at the mouth for tranny blood, for no reason. This is the shit they have to deal with, all the time.

 

[FullMetalx117]

I mean... it's true... he did argue against homosexuality by using the famous bible quote.
let's not act like people have to think this guy was a good person just because he died.

I still remember people bringing up Kobe's scandal when he died. And he was a player I watched everyday and loved. There's no reason to hold back

 

[Lord Panda]

Apologies if repost:

 

[Boo Who?]

I mean you cant just say hateful and evil shit and expect them not to hate you.



Everyone right now is frothing at the mouth for tranny blood, for no reason. This is the shit they have to deal with, all the time.

Well, to be fair, if the killer turns out to be a tranny, not a good few weeks for them. I don't care what they are, in the end the person is a murderer.

 

[TheChadOfGaming]

Unemployment numbers are gonna be brutal this month with all these sub human animals being fired for celebrating

 

[Hoddi]

Quick reminder that the Russian propaganda accounts are out in full force. The ultraconservative guy from Texas and ultraliberal guy from Seattle that you see on Twitter may not be real people.

 

[FullMetalx117]

Facts, not sure how the base allowed him and ramaswamy to happen

 

[DeaDPo0L84]

Thanks for your opinion on U.S. politics. I would say that the hatred for conservatives is warranted in this country.

Never go full retard.

 

[decisions]

I mean... it's true... he did argue against homosexuality by using the famous bible quote.
let's not act like people have to think this guy was a good person just because he died.

Source? Because it sounds like you are reducing things disingenuously.

It seems to me like his view was that homosexuality was immoral but does not define a person and certainly should not be met with force. He was quite kind to this kid:

 

[12Goblins]

Quick reminder that the Russian propaganda accounts are out in full force. The ultraconservative guy from Texas and ultraliberal guy from Seattle that you see on Twitter may not be real people.

Joe Rogan inhaling that shit right into his brain right now.

 

[Syphon Filter]

not surprised it was a leftist woke retard. they are mad that trump won.

 

[Hoddi]

Joe Rogan inhaling that shit right into his brain right now.

So could you be if you aren't careful. They don't only target the right wing.

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

Other right-wingers have used violence in the past and other people on the left have tried to talk, so the implication is incredibly biased.

This "They're all the same" stuff has got to stop. They all do the same stuff (correct) at varying degrees.

 

[bender]

Didn't have Stephen A Smith being the voice of reason on my bingo card, but he sums up my feelings to a T.

 

[crazepharmacist]

I mean... it's true... he did argue against homosexuality by using the famous bible quote.
let's not act like people have to think this guy was a good person just because he died.

So you're saying all Christian's are bad people because they are against homosexuality?

 

[DaciaJC]

I mean you cant just say hateful and evil shit and expect them not to hate you.

Putting aside that what so many of them consider to be "hateful and evil shit" includes such banal statements as "there are only two genders," I acknowledge that they hate us. Quite a difference to say that hate is warranted.

Everyone right now is frothing at the mouth for tranny blood, for no reason. This is the shit they have to deal with, all the time.

Seems to me like she was just going off of the leaked info earlier regarding the casing imprints. Barely two weeks ago, a transgender lunatic slaughtered two children and wounded more than a dozen others who were attending Mass at their school.

 

[12Goblins]

So you're saying all Christian's are bad people because they are against homosexuality?

Persecuting peoples sexuality and identity is bad, yes.

 

[crazepharmacist]

Persecuting peoples sexuality and identity is bad, yes.

So, Christian's persecute homosexuals now? How?

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Didn't have Stephen A Smith being the voice of reason on my bingo card, but he sums up my feelings to a T.

He actually comes across my Twitter feed semi-often giving reasonable and thoughtful takes. Just because he talks about sports most of the time doesn't mean you should underestimate his other opinions

 

[bender]

He actually comes across my Twitter feed semi-often giving reasonable and thoughtful takes. Just because he talks about sports most of the time doesn't mean you should underestimate his other opinions

I've never really heard his other opinions. He's no doubt intelligent and eloquent, but I can't stand the character he plays in sports coverage even if I understand why he does it. It's too bad what's on display here isn't more noteworthy or profitable, but he'll have my respect from here on out.

 

[FoxMcChief]

I've never really heard his other opinions. He's no doubt intelligent and eloquent, but I can't stand the character he plays in sports coverage even if I understand why he does it. It's too bad what's on display here isn't more noteworthy or profitable, but he'll have my respect from here on out.

I don't mind his character. Watching First Take with some coffee is how I like to spend my mornings.

 

[vodka-bull]

Stephen king not holding back

I mean I expect the typical blue haired left wing two spirited trans penguin to decontextualize words just for the sake of it because snowflake, but an author like Stephen King should definitely be able to know what context is, what it means and how to read in between the lines. That's just as stupid as saying what Stephen King advocated for just because he phantasized about it in his books.

 

[Crm114]

I mean I expect the typical blue haired left wing two spirited trans penguin to decontextualize words just for the sake of it because snowflake, but an author like Stephen King should definitely be able to know what context is.

is there a clip with the full context?

 

[T-0800]

Persecuting peoples sexuality and identity is bad, yes.

I'm a Christian and I would never persecute someone for being gay. Doesn't mean I biblically agree with their choices and whatnot but I respect their right to live their life how they want to. Your lifestyle is between you and God. Not you and me.

 

[kevboard]

So you're saying all Christian's are bad people because they are against homosexuality?

no, I'd not say bad... I'd say stupid. Anyone who gets his values from a badly written book that in parts is thousands of years old and is often contradicting itself, is a bit, well... stupid. Like a child thinking it's super important which House in Harry Potter they'd be. Although, Harry Potter has less plot holes at least.

but also most people these days who call themselves Christians are (thankfully) not really Christians. they just use that term due to their cultural background.

 

[Draugoth]

The FBI is very incompetent...

That's what you get for putting a Podcaster in charge.

If it's a hunting rifle, it might be hard to trace. Can't you just buy them at Walmart?

Yes, there are places in America where you can buy hunting rifles without background checking and they can pass down from multiple owners, if he bought it with cash and wore gloves all the time it's untraceable.

 

[vodka-bull]

is there a clip with the full context?

It's obviously a bible reference. But that's what fascists do, censor free speech and take words out of context to demonize the enemy. It's just as stupid as saying Hitler owned a dog, you own a dog, therefore you a Nazi…

 

[Madflavor]

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/charlie-kirk-shot-utah-death-09-11-25#cmfg6b7w800053b6o3uho47u5

Not exactly inspiring confidence. Gonna be a real bad look for Kash Patel and the FBI if they don't find this guy. Assassinating someone like that AND getting away with it? Not that I don't think this won't happen again anyway, but that's just going to inspire nutjobs even more.

 

[Antwix]

Charlie's first location when Turning Point was founded was in my small hometown in Illinois so I made a point of going to the vigil there tonight. I didn't take any pictures during the actual event, just a couple afterwards. I ran into some people I haven't seen in years and it was a somber yet amazing time having some drinks with everyone.

 

[Buggy Loop]

Being "okay with gun violence" and "there will be some violence associated with the liberty of owning firearms" are two different things. You are trying to spin it - should we get rid of cars (something he mentions also)? It will reduce deaths.

Really? Cars compared to guns? Is it even on the same level of utility for daily life? Cmon.

A car is made to travel, to get someone to a destination.

Can a massive hunk of metal at high speed kill? Sure? You can also skateboard and break your fucking neck.

What is a gun made for? Why is it built? They are made to do one thing : Kill. Practice at a gun range, to kill. Animal, or you know.. humans, the only skill you are developing is to better kill.

One is now daily used with more and more security, exams and license to drive. US has an estimated ~225 BILLION driving trips on a yearly basis. ~43k deaths. Do I even have to calculate the % for ya?

Lifetime odds of 1 in 100 and getting smaller statistically with newer cars being much safer.

Now are there 225 Billion gun maneuvers yearly, in public, for the entire day and throughout a huge spider web distribution covering an entire country? Of course not. It has the same ~45k-48k deaths yearly. With way too many fucking school shootings where you think your kids are safe after they traveled in a huge yellow hunk of metal to school.

I'll never understand how you Americans don't look at gun control in other countries and don't take inspiration.

You're at the Olympics for the highest rates of violent gun deaths per capita against backward fucking countries where peoples shoot AK47s in the air for every fucking celebrations or active groups doing jihads.

If that's not a fucking cold shower I don't know what will.

 

[Lokaum D+]

no, I'd not say bad... I'd say stupid. Anyone who gets his values from a badly written book that in parts is thousands of years old and is often contradicting itself, is a bit, well... stupid. Like a child thinking it's super important which House in Harry Potter they'd be. Although, Harry Potter has less plot holes at least.

but also most people these days who call themselves Christians are (thankfully) not really Christians. they just use that term due to their cultural background.

Would you say the same about the Qur'an ? Or its only a Bible thing ? Just asking.

Edit: still waiting for an answer.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Would you say the same about the Qur'an ? Or its only a Bible thing ? Just asking.

my dude

 

[12Goblins]

So, Christian's persecute homosexuals now? How?

There's nothing Christian about persecuting peoples sexuality, no.

 

[TheAtomicPile]

Oof. Is the conservative bench really so short that Milo is the next man up?

not surprised it was a leftist woke retard. they are mad that trump won.

Did your uncle at Nintendo tell you this? Nobody even knows his name yet.

 

[th4tguy]

not surprised it was a leftist woke retard. they are mad that trump won.

Not only does no one actually know who the shooter is, the only picture of the lead suspect has them dressed in very pro America gear which is very much not liberal attire.

 

[th4tguy]

Quick reminder that the Russian propaganda accounts are out in full force. The ultraconservative guy from Texas and ultraliberal guy from Seattle that you see on Twitter may not be real people.

I really wonder how many Russian bots are on this very forum sometimes. The discussions around Ukraine invasion were very eye opening back when that was fresh.

 

[Hari Seldon]

Social media makes you retarded. The more you consume, the more retarded you are. If it wasn't for the normies ignoring this shit no one would be alive right now.

As an aside, killing someone to suppress a message is about the most retarded thing you could ever do. I am American, never heard of this person and neither had my wife. Now both of us do. And when a normie watches a random video of this dude on facebook it is not exactly extreme shit.

 

[FoxMcChief]

not surprised it was a leftist woke retard. they are mad that trump won.

And "some" people don't see why the right come off as as hateful as the left?

 

[adamsapple]

Breaking my own self imposed exile from thread to post that I'm legit surprised at Mike Johnson having arguably the most sensible take of all politics-type-folks so far.

 

[ProtoByte]

I mean... it's true... he did argue against homosexuality by using the famous bible quote.
let's not act like people have to think this guy was a good person just because he died.

Persecuting peoples sexuality and identity is bad, yes.

On the biblical stuff, because now we're drilling down into quotes that no one was talking about until 5 minutes ago; this is the uncomfortable truth.

Christianity condemns homosexuality and fornication. It promotes the most prevalent familial structure throughout human history.

It is the most dominant religion in the planet, and it's not even close. Islam and Judaism are varying degrees of being even stricter than Catholicism, which is the most popular Christian sect that aligns with the New and Old Testaments. People within these religions are varying degrees of devout or orthodox - but that's what they ultimately subscribe to.

And American Christianity is as permissive as it gets.

As for Kirk himself, he was no LARPing crusader:

 

[Kiwicha]

I mean... it's true... he did argue against homosexuality by using the famous bible quote.
let's not act like people have to think this guy was a good person just because he died.

Someone quoted the bible at him arguing it says that we should love everyone, he counter with "you know that in the very next chapter it says that men that lay with other men should be stone? Just saying..."
And I understand that like "If you are gonna use the bible to support your pro gay retoric..." Not that whe was advocating for LGTB stoning.

 

[Trunx81]

 

[Unknown Soldier]

On the biblical stuff, because now we're drilling down into quotes that no one was talking about until 5 minutes ago; this is the uncomfortable truth.

Christianity condemns homosexuality and fornication. It promotes the most prevalent familial structure throughout human history.

It is the most dominant religion in the planet, and it's not even close. Islam and Judaism are varying degrees of being even stricter than Catholicism, which is the most popular Christian sect that aligns with the New and Old Testaments. People within these religions are varying degrees of devout or orthodox - but that's what they ultimately subscribe to.

And American Christianity is as permissive as it gets.

As for Kirk himself, he was no LARPing crusader:

The leftists who are so welcoming of Islam are basically engaging in civilizational scale cognitive dissonance. Islam punishes homosexuality with death. When I see people who are "Queers for Palestine" I can't help but think they are fundamentally retarded because real Palestinians literally throw people accused of being gay off rooftops to their deaths

 

[Mr Reasonable]

Channels that I watch are really going in on the conspiracy stuff.

Time to find some different channels.

 

[Ursus Vindicant]

The problem is that it's not just a few, it's hundreds of thousands. If X was still Twitter, it would dominate there too.

Its worse. Its bleeding into real life. I was hoping it was just Internet crazies. But it isnt. Im hearing things in actual real life.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Social media makes you retarded. The more you consume, the more retarded you are. If it wasn't for the normies ignoring this shit no one would be alive right now.

As an aside, killing someone to suppress a message is about the most retarded thing you could ever do. I am American, never heard of this person and neither had my wife. Now both of us do. And when a normie watches a random video of this dude on facebook it is not exactly extreme shit.

I don't know how to express this in the most effective way… but I believe social media (especially Twitter) played a critical role in this. So critical, in fact, that it could have made the difference between this assassination happening or not if Twitter didn't exist. I think this assassination marks the culmination of Twitter A + Twitter B: Pro–Cancel Culture and Anti–Cancel Culture. Theoretically speaking, Twitter C should use a more proactive AI. (Just like Metal Gear Solid 2 predicted)

If someone makes a retarded comment, instead of only banning, censoring, or relying on community notes and users asking @grok, AI could step in let's say, to smack the retardation down. This already happens to some extent when users get owned by their Grok inquiries, but not to the degree I'm trying to convey. We've seen this behavior before: people get hysterical when their comments are deleted or censored, believing what they have to say is important and worth being put out into the world; people are addicted to the engagement and validation of "Winning arguments/ being right and celebreted" Blocking or muting is often used as a tactic for trolling or rage-quitting, as well as a badge of honor.

So yes, social media makes a retard, but only because it encourages and exacerbates your own retardation.

 

[IDKFA]

I did look up the full context of the quote. He goes on to say that the attack was awful, but this is an empty gesture because he's basically making light of the attack in the same breath. I think I was 100% wrong to say that he was advocating for violence here. It clearly was not his intention, when I got the full context.

Not your fault. The website, Kron 4, is the providing misleading information.

I did think it was suspect that they pulled out a random quote from 3 years ago without any context behind it. They knew what they were doing.

 

[Votron]

I didn't know anything about the stabbing until I looked on the murdered guy's twitter. He was trying to make it a black vs white thing on twitter, especially in the last few days, basically trying to rile up a race war. It's clear that the black guy has mental illness. Dunno why people have to drag her being a political prisoner of Ukraine into it, the black guy didn't know that, but now republicans are suggesting dems are flip flopping about caring about Ukraine over it. Meanwhile, Trump poops on Ukraine all day.

This whole thing is sad. This thread is filled with so much hate and finger pointing. I avoided the whole gaf/era drama and stayed on gaf, but you have people in this topic who immediately run to era to see what they are posting. Why? The them vs me mindset of US politics bleeding over onto a videogame forum because everyone's own side is the just one. Can't wait to point out what awful thing the other person said, can you believe what they said? People in this topic asking how they can dox posters on a spinoff gaming message board.

If he's left, does it make a difference? Does it bring back the democrat that was shot on her doorstep by a republican? Or make it even that republicans celebrated and mocked the death? If he's black, does it make a difference? Does it change the fact that the stabber had mental illness? If it's a false flag, does it change the fact that the world is run by billionaires that couldn't give one iota of a fuck about any of our well beings?

Absolutely wild to me that gamers can navigate a Hideo Kojima videogame plotline but not be able to identify hateful ideologies and agendas, public manipulation, etc without being swayed in either direction by an internet video, tweet or shitpost somewhere. Meanwhile billionaires on a yacht or a bunker just trying to enjoy a lacroix while we are on the verge of civil war.

It's a sad world and the people that actually live free and hold the power would probably wipe all of their own countrymen off the map to retain it, regardless of party affiliation.

This is so well-put in so many ways. The US Politics has become an almost do-or-die thing with the rhetoric turned all the way up, and I reall ydo think it kinda started with obama being elected, starting some sort of a "race" war.. and Trump turned up that rhetoric to 1000% percent, and then the George Floyd things (among other stuff), then the rise of the BLM group which starting off melo then turned up to be a shit show of a group, which in turn give the other side even more ammo, then the Media gotta make some profit off of it, and it just snow balls, from there to the election being a fraud thingy, russia or no russian collision, lock up hillary chant, trump a nazi and racist chant, January 6 insurrection shit, then come the icing on the cake , which is the hamas attack on Israel land, and then go from Israel retaliation to now being considered a genocide. Oh yea right in between that was the Ukraine, russia war whiich became an far right to far left thing on who to support or not to support, to finally the unfortunate stabbing in the subway that now became a political tool even though it's clearly some mental disorder shit just like the school shootings that have been happening over the decades.
And now we are here with this sad shooting. Oh , I forgot the assassination attempt on trump too and the Minnesota lawmakers. Those weren't even that long ago.
HOLY SHIT this has really become a full on WILD WILD WEST. Even though what just happened now should really open everyone's eyes and understand this isn't a left and right anymore, but nope..more people out there are adding gas to the fire. Some rejoicing and some using it to stoke even more political tension. JUST-FUCKING-CHRIST!!! I'm just gonna stop typing. sorry for the rant.