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[ChorizoPicozo]

What would happen if AI steps in ans says this:

You could express this more clearly and sharply without sounding like you're advocating violence or stereotyping an entire population. For example:

"Some people in the West protest in favor of Gaza while claiming that homophobic or transphobic individuals deserve to die—yet they often ignore the fact that LGBTQ+ rights are severely restricted in parts of Palestinian society."

Or punchier for social media:

"Western outrage over homophobia sometimes doesn't extend to Gaza—where LGBTQ+ people face extreme discrimination—but somehow it's okay to say someone 'deserves to die' at home."

1. Original blunt version (implied violence, sweeping statements)
"He was transphobic and homophobic, he deserved to die. I have excellent news for you about the population of Gaza."

• Engagement likely: High in terms of shock value and outrage, but mostly negative reactions—reports, blocks, or backlash.
• Problem: Twitter will flag or hide violent content. Many users will focus on the ethical problem of "deserving to die" rather than the intended point about hypocrisy.

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2. Clarified, factual version
"Some people in the West protest in favor of Gaza while claiming that homophobic or transphobic individuals deserve to die—yet they often ignore the fact that LGBTQ+ rights are severely restricted in parts of Palestinian society."

• Engagement likely: Moderate to high, especially from thoughtful users who discuss hypocrisy, human rights, and cultural context.
• Strength: Clear, precise, avoids advocating violence, easier for discussion or debate.
• Problem: Less immediate "shock" or viral potential, so may get fewer retweets from casual scrollers

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3. Punchy, rhetorical/social-media version
"Western outrage over homophobia sometimes doesn't extend to Gaza—where LGBTQ+ people face extreme discrimination—but somehow it's okay to say someone 'deserves to die' at home."

• Engagement likely: High for a balance of punchiness and clarity. Retweets and replies from both supporters and critics likely.
• Strength: Viral potential is stronger than version 2 because of the rhetorical contrast; it's easy to quote, debate, or react to.
• Problem: Some users may still misinterpret it as targeting Palestinians rather than criticizing hypocrisy.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

 

[Embearded]

Source? Because it sounds like you are reducing things disingenuously.

It seems to me like his view was that homosexuality was immoral but does not define a person and certainly should not be met with force. He was quite kind to this kid:

In the end, even if he truly believed what the bible says, so what?
It's ok for Muslims to hate gays but not Christians?
As an atheist with an qual passion against all religion, i can see the double standards my friend.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

 

[StreetsofBeige]

In the end, even if he truly believed what the bible says, so what?
It's ok for Muslims to hate gays but not Christians?
As an atheist with an qual passion against all religion, i can see the double standards my friend.

There's always double standards.

People with an axe to grind will pick the target that resists or counterattacks the least.

Left leaning people never criticize Muslims due to a few key factors. 1. There's lots of them. 2. The Muslim community can have really extreme violent people. If liberals try to sanitize Islam pointing out they are idiots for hating gay people, they know full and well there's possibility they'll get their asses kicked in. So they wont dare create an uproar about it. Especially on their soil.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

Congratulations, you've managed to use one station like 14 times in a list of 15.

If you look at the top of the list, it says top shows, not top stations.

Fox is there 14 times because they're megasuccesful.

 

[EviLore]

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My favorite story of Charlie Kirk is how he courted his wife Erika

The story goes, Erika was running her own business in NYC called "Proclaim Streetwear". If you buy a sweatshirt from them, they'll also give one to a homeless person on the street. She loved Jesus a lot and started this business to honor Him.

Charlie and Erika first bumped into each other while in line at the airport.

From there they kept in touch.

Charlie asked her if she was interested in a job at Turning Point USA. She was like, "Hmm, didn't cross my mind but sure, I'll interview"

The interview entailed a one-on-one meeting with Charlie at a restaurant

They interview lasted 3 hours because after talking politics and strategy, they just talked about any and everything

The restaurant was closing so they had to leave

Then Charlie said, "You're really great but I cannot hire you at TP USA"

Erika was like, "Okay! No problem. I still have my business"

Then Charlie said, "I cannot hire you...because I want to date you"

She was completely taken aback

She was like, "Okay! "

Then they left the restaurant and went their separate ways

On her way back, Erika's mom called her and asked how the interview went. She said, "I didn't get the job...but hmmm, I got a boyfriend??"
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[ResurrectedContrarian]

I mean... it's true... he did argue against homosexuality by using the famous bible quote.
let's not act like people have to think this guy was a good person just because he died.

Stephen king not holding back

If you think he advocated stoning, you are exactly the kind of person that led to his death, because you can't separate speaking against something -- as he does, in a rational way -- from wanting to exterminate or torture it. He also doesn't want to exterminate trans people, while fully (and rightly) believing they are experiencing a mental illness and that it should be represented that way publicly instead of endorsing false pronouns etc. If you had even the slightest ability to grasp other viewpoints, you would know this.

He in fact both disagrees that homosexuality should be promoted as an ordinary and acceptable relationship form, and at the same time would deeply oppose taking violence out on people for their personal or private sins. This is in fact Jesus's take as well.

It's largely a break between secular and religious people here, and the support for political violence is dramatically stronger in the former.

 

[JimmyRustler]

In the end, even if he truly believed what the bible says, so what?
It's ok for Muslims to hate gays but not Christians?
As an atheist with an qual passion against all religion, i can see the double standards my friend.

There is no reason at all to hate gays as a Christian. What are you even talking about? Loads of laws from the Old Testament are diluted or straight out invalidated by Jesus. Just read John 8.

 

[ResurrectedContrarian]

Everyone right now is frothing at the mouth for tranny blood, for no reason. This is the shit they have to deal with, all the time.

You don't want to go down this road. We can even exit the US context and just focus on the UK, or do both, and you will quickly learn that the most openly violent (and directly threatening, eg via DMs) language out there in Western politics today is coming from the "kill all TERFs" crowd. If any other political agenda had even 1/10th of their open calls for truly grotesque violence (often even in person -- "kill all TERFs" is shouted in faces at Let Women Speak events in the UK etc), they would be disrupted from gathering and imprisoned.

 

[EviLore]

Bill Ackman being a solid guy, setting up a $1 mill trust for Kirk's family and also a $1 mill bounty for the killer.

 

[Shmunter]

I didn't know anything about the stabbing until I looked on the murdered guy's twitter. He was trying to make it a black vs white thing on twitter, especially in the last few days, basically trying to rile up a race war. It's clear that the black guy has mental illness. Dunno why people have to drag her being a political prisoner of Ukraine into it, the black guy didn't know that, but now republicans are suggesting dems are flip flopping about caring about Ukraine over it. Meanwhile, Trump poops on Ukraine all day.

This whole thing is sad. This thread is filled with so much hate and finger pointing. I avoided the whole gaf/era drama and stayed on gaf, but you have people in this topic who immediately run to era to see what they are posting. Why? The them vs me mindset of US politics bleeding over onto a videogame forum because everyone's own side is the just one. Can't wait to point out what awful thing the other person said, can you believe what they said? People in this topic asking how they can dox posters on a spinoff gaming message board.

If he's left, does it make a difference? Does it bring back the democrat that was shot on her doorstep by a republican? Or make it even that republicans celebrated and mocked the death? If he's black, does it make a difference? Does it change the fact that the stabber had mental illness? If it's a false flag, does it change the fact that the world is run by billionaires that couldn't give one iota of a fuck about any of our well beings?

Absolutely wild to me that gamers can navigate a Hideo Kojima videogame plotline but not be able to identify hateful ideologies and agendas, public manipulation, etc without being swayed in either direction by an internet video, tweet or shitpost somewhere. Meanwhile billionaires on a yacht or a bunker just trying to enjoy a lacroix while we are on the verge of civil war.

It's a sad world and the people that actually live free and hold the power would probably wipe all of their own countrymen off the map to retain it, regardless of party affiliation.

Like this?



People often conflate harsh reality of social issues with racism. If you can't talk about it . you can't improve situations.

Kirk worked with conservative black people, it's not racism - it's deeper ideas on the plate that some simply have no fortitude to contemplate.

 

[crazepharmacist]

Is his wife pregnant? On her instagram she posted the date 9/16 a few times recently.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

 

[MidGenRefresh]

Is his wife pregnant? On her instagram she posted the date 9/16 a few times recently.

I made a mistake checking the last few posts and reading the comments. Fucking hell, people are truly evil.

 

[Trunx81]

The Bible quoting works both ways:


In West Wing, Martin Sheen does the same

 

[FoxMcChief]

The Bible quoting works both ways:


In West Wing, Martin Sheen does the same

One of my favorite scenes in television. Along with this one below. Kind of fitting, should they find the killer and choose to go with the death penalty.

 

[midnightAI]

new pics circulating.



Def nothing "remarkable" about him. At least from the pics. Only thing is that limp from the video that has also been circulating.

while circulating the pictures is good, people using AI to apparently find out who it is could lead to major problems and someone innocent could get hurt especially if people take it into their own hands, leave it to the police/FBI

 

[JimmyRustler]

The Bible quoting works both ways:


In West Wing, Martin Sheen does the same

I've had this theory of the Bible for a couple of years. And this is that when reading it, it tells you something about yourself. It's a huge book man. I once took it on myself to read it in one go. My day bascially boiled down to going to work, gym training, eating and reading the Bible. Took me 18 days (!) to finish it. Just to illustrate how much there is to read.

Now, given the amount of text and different writers you can find a lot in it. Both good and bad. So, whatever sticks with you, sticks with you for a reason.

 

[IDKFA]

Stephen king not holding back

Stephen King is a prick and part of the reason why people are being killed for political views.

Charlie Kirk did not at any time advocate stoning to death gay people. King is either misinformed, or willingly spreading bull shit. That makes him part of the problem.

 

[Embearded]

There is no reason at all to hate gays as a Christian. What are you even talking about? Loads of laws from the Old Testament are diluted or straight out invalidated by Jesus. Just read John 8.

Old testament, and new testament:

But its ok because all of it is written by people, who injected their own views and beliefs and sold it as the word of God.

Christianity, like every other religion, is a set of made up rules. People interpret them as they see fit.

 

[wa600]

"The fact that there are now groups celebrating his death cannot be justified in any way—not even by his often abhorrent, racist, sexist, and misanthropic statements. However, it is clear that this radical religious conspiracy theorist has struck a nerve precisely with those. Charlie Kirk not only had millions of followers; his events were also extremely popular and well-attended."

This is german television, not the private one, but the one funded by a mandatory public fee.
Imo news should report in a neutral way, not framing it in a way that suits your own (leftist) narrative the best.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

 

[Beretta]

Stephen King is a prick and part of the reason why people are being killed for political views.

Charlie Kirk did not at any time advocate stoning to death gay people. King is either misinformed, or willingly spreading bull shit. That makes him part of the problem.

That's a big problem with not only this but any situation. So many snippets of shit being posted and people just take the one line they see and run with it. It's damaging but people will never stop. As long as it paints the person the way they want it to, it's good enough and then you get other sheep who see it and believe it without looking up the full context.

If I recall, he was talking about the bible. Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm atheist, but I think the bible discusses homosexuality as a sin and punishment for things including "sexual sin" which was most likely stoning. As you said (in fewer words) he never said people should go stone anyone nor that he thought that was the way to go.

If I got the bible stuff wrong, sorry to any religious folks. Even though I don't believe in it, I do enjoy discussions about it but I may be remembering this incorrectly.

 

[Gonzito]

I am hearing in some places that Kirk was a Nazi, I didn't know the guy but if he was a true Christian, i doubt this would be the case. We dont hate people, we just hate the sin because that's what God command us to do.

Let's pretend I meet someone who is Gay, I would treat them exactly the way as any other human being, with respect, care and integrity. God gave us all free will and these individuals should have always the freedom to do whatever they want with their life's.

As Christians, is obviously our jobs to warn them that the God of the bible considers homosexuality a sin, and because we believe he is real, we take his opinions very seriously. That being said I would not condemn anyone because I sin daily as well (and because that is God's job, not mine), like Paul said we all have the power of sin in our flesh even if we are born again, its a constant fight between the flesh and spirit. So it would be hypocritical from my part to condemn anyone for being homosexual, trans or whatever thing this person identifies as.

I am a sinner too so who am I to judge people? In the end, having faith in Jesus Christ is what saves according to the scriptures, not our performance and God knows we are dust and weak, he is not a one dimensional character, he understands and have empathy towards us

Anyway what I want to say is that true Christians must try their best always show love and try their best to teach without going into fights and condemnation although this isn't always possible due to the attitude of certain individuals, like for example the people that killed this politician in this case. This is what the bible teaches if one reads it which unfortunately not many people do, and people in bad faith use certain passages to hurt others, giving Christianity a bad reputation as a result.

To finish this message I want to write one of my favorite quote from Jesus in the bible

"Do not let your hearts be troubled, trust in God, trust also in me"

This always gives me confort during hard times

Cheers papitos

 

[laynelane]

I suspect most of, if not all, the people who attended the event are struggling after seeing such horrific violence. I haven't watched the video because I know how much it would disturb me, but they weren't given that choice. I hope they're getting the support they need.

 

[JimmyRustler]

Old testament, and new testament:

But its ok because all of it is written by people, who injected their own views and beliefs and sold it as the word of God.

Christianity, like every other religion, is a set of made up rules. People interpret them as they see fit.

ugh... ChatGPT, please find a passage in the Bible that confirms my bias. Good job man.

There is a lot more it than that you know. But, whatever. Just make sure to not forget your way of life is standing upon those made up rules.

 

[calico]

The Bible quoting works both ways:


In West Wing, Martin Sheen does the same

Ah, the good old days when the left daydreamed about winning debates instead of just calling anyone who disagrees with them a nazi and demanding they be murdered.

Also the jokes about falsifying election results and the spurious use of Doctor

 

[Gonzito]

Old testament, and new testament:

But its ok because all of it is written by people, who injected their own views and beliefs and sold it as the word of God.

Christianity, like every other religion, is a set of made up rules. People interpret them as they see fit

You are wrong

Jesus commanded us to love everyone even sinners. In my previous post, I explained the situation regarding homosexuality.

As for the claim that Scripture is "just men's words sold as the word of God," that's a shallow statement and comes from a place of ignorance.

There are countless prophecies in the Bible that have been fulfilled, making it impossible to believe the Bible is merely man-made and not divinely inspired. For example, around 800 years before Jesus, a prophet wrote that the Son of God would be "pierced for our transgressions." At that time, crucifixion didn't even exist so how could someone predict that on their own?

And that's just one example there are many more fulfilled prophecies I could mention, but I don't have time at the moment today. If you ever want to discuss this further, my DMs are always open but there are many reasons to believe that the Bible is God's words written for us

 

[cormack12]

It took 5 days to apprehend that Luigi guy so let's hope they catch up to this twat soon.

 

[Little Mac]

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

Starve on the street motherfucker

I'm willing to bet 100$ she's never punched a nazi.

 

[Embearded]

ugh... ChatGPT, please find a passage in the Bible that confirms my bias. Good job man.

There is a lot more it than that you know. But, whatever. Just make sure to not forget your way of life is standing upon those made up rules.

It is no different than reading it by yourself, looking for verification of your feelings.
In the end, if its written in there and a search machine can find it, its part of it.

Yes religion played a role in human history. It made us behave through fear of divine punishment, and now it's no longer required. We no longer get our morals from religion, or at least the positive ones.

You are wrong

Jesus commanded us to love everyone even sinners. In my previous post, I explained the situation regarding homosexuality.

As for the claim that Scripture is "just men's words sold as the word of God," that's a shallow statement and comes from a place of ignorance.

There are countless prophecies in the Bible that have been fulfilled, making it impossible to believe the Bible is merely man-made and not divinely inspired. For example, around 800 years before Jesus, a prophet wrote that the Son of God would be "pierced for our transgressions." At that time, crucifixion didn't even exist so how could someone predict that on their own?

And that's just one example there are many more fulfilled prophecies I could mention, but I don't have time at the moment today. If you ever want to discuss this further, my DMs are always open but there are many reasons to believe that the Bible is God's words written for us

For you maybe.
No matter how many of these so called prophecies you list, there is no hard evidence to back them. This is why after all religions require blind faith.

Until the day the existence of your god can be verified just as easily as the natural laws of our physical world, he lives in your minds only, and the burden of proof falls on you. That burden of proof is only required when illogical claims are made that threaten our freedom, our health or used as arguments for legislation.

Yet, the right to believe it, to gather with like minded people and spread your ideas without enforcing anyone to believe them, is yours and no one should ever try to stop or mute you.

It is sad i have to write down that last paragraph, it should be considered a fundamental value of our society, but as Charlie's death proves, its not.

 

[Null Persp]

we should burn this planet down.

 

[Little Mac]

Not sure if this has been posted yet, but here is Asmongold using his platform to reprimand the disgusting online behavior of mocking Charlie Kirk's death. Reaming employees at Bungie, Sucker Punch, ect. Calls for these individuals to be fired.

 

[JimmyRustler]

It is no different than reading it by yourself, looking for verification of your feelings.
In the end, if its written in there and a search machine can find it, its part of it.

Yes religion played a role in human history. It made us behave through fear of divine punishment, and now it's no longer required. We no longer get our morals from religion, or at least the positive ones.

I love these comments. Are you REALLY sure about that? That we don't need it anymore?

You are aware that we are currently living in a world where most have been born into religion and only transitioned out of it? The new atheism gained its stride in the early 00s after all and most of today's atheist are a result of that.

Are you really sure that a generation born into atheism will be just the same? Boy, I would really educate myself in history and human nature if I'd be you. Just a tip my friend… the concept of all humans being born equal is a decidedly Christian concept and has been unthinkable for most of human history. I'm really baffled at you thinking we can't go back one day if the values that gave rise to it are eroded. Especially how cold atheism is. I mean, just listen to Dawkins these day. That guy sounds like he has not a shred of compassion.

 

[Boss Mog]

I'm sure there were 1000s of people saying the same thing when Nancy Pelosi's husband almost got hammered to death.

You mean by his gay lover? Yeah nobody I know that leans right cheered his attack or celebrated after the fact. I'm sure a few extremist idots might have, there's always a few. But If anything, the normal right leaning people were just amused by how they were trying to cover it up and frame it as some kind of home invasion by a crazed Trump supporter.

And therein lies the difference, the people celebrating and cheering Kirk's death are not limited to a few extremists, they are the mainstream left, the "normal" left.

 

[thefool]

we should burn this planet down.

Honestly, the more everyone sees these lunatics, the better. A lot of people have no idea how rotten and sick these people are, the venn diagram between who cheer/supports this assassination and adults you wouldn't leave a child alone with is a circle. It's important that we know who these predators are because the only actual restriction we need to enforce is that these animals can, under no circumstance, be around children.

 

[Madserb2023]

Ah yes, the anti fascists who glorify the killing of their political opponents. Horseshoe theory? They have gone full circle and their head is up their arse. It's like Putin talking about Nazis in Ukraine while his opponents fall out of Windows. Saw one post from an anti fascist talking about gassing people like Kirk. Irony along with IQ is dead.

 

[Boss Mog]

and the support for political violence is dramatically stronger in the former.

Complete and utter bullshit. You're either uneducated/miseducated or saying that entirely in bad faith.

 

[crazepharmacist]

Not saying this is the shooter but it does kind of look like him

 

[Trilobit]

Thanks for your opinion on U.S. politics. I would say that the hatred for conservatives is warranted in this country. But as a foreigner, i don't blame you for not being aware of the issues we have.

Do you think a mass murder of over 1/3 of Americans can be motivated?

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

If you think he advocated stoning, you are exactly the kind of person that led to his death, because you can't separate speaking against something

You can, in fact, think that Kirk had expressed extreme to the point of unhinged views, and at the same time condemn the murder. Because murder is bad, and political murder is bad and dangerous to society.

 

[Dr.Morris79]

That's just as stupid as saying what Stephen King advocated for just because he phantasized about it in his books.

 

[Embearded]

I love these comments. Are you REALLY sure about that? That we don't need it anymore?

You are aware that we are currently living in a world where most have been born into religion and only transitioned out of it? The new atheism gained its stride in the early 00s after all and most of today's atheist are a result of that.

Are you really sure that a generation born into atheism will be just the same? Boy, I would really educate myself in history and human nature if I'd be you. Just a tip my friend… the concept of all humans being born equal is a decidedly Christian concept and has been unthinkable for most of human history. I'm really baffled at you thinking we can't go back one day if the values that gave rise to it are eroded. Especially how cold atheism is. I mean, just listen to Dawkins these day. That guy sounds like he has not a shred of compassion.

Yes we don't need it.
There is no proof that imprisoned criminals are atheists for example, or at least they were at the time of the crime.

People that behave within our society, do not do it because of the fear of divine punishment or the expectation of reward.
Historically? Yes as i said it played a role, but there is no room for religion in our future as a species, with the exception maybe of the mentally troubled that find peace in the concept of religion.
No functional man needs religion to separate good from bad.

And no, Christianity was not the first ideology that described equality between humans. Greek philosophers have talked about it hundreds of years before Christianity and could have influenced it through Roman times.

Your attack at my education and knowledge doesn't work with me.

And compassion is not exclusive to religion, neither are religious people necessarily compassionate.
This, along with the monopoly on morals is a known card played by religious people, yet there is no evidence to back it up and for every mention of specific people that have done good in the name of god there are others who have done crimes or hid them from the public eye and the law to protect their dogma.
I've listened to Dawkins and read some of books, God Delusion included. I don't see a lack of compassion, i see a passion for the scientific truth.

 

[tamago84]

we should burn this planet down.

Cant imagine whats in their porn folder with those regarded pfp

 

[Embearded]

 

[ValiantInstance]

This is what losing the argument looks like. They couldn't argue their way out of a paper bag, yet base their entire life and feelings around this ideology.

Kirk practically invented the 'conservative OWNS progressives on college campus' debate bro videos. Even though I find these cringe (it's not 2016 anymore), there is a seed of truth in them. When you explore the positions these people hold, they are often found to be untenable from a logical standpoint. It is all feelings and pathological altruism.

 

[JimmyRustler]

Yes we don't need it.
There is no proof that imprisoned criminals are atheists for example, or at least they were at the time of the crime.

People that behave within our society, do not do it because of the fear of divine punishment or the expectation of reward.
Historically? Yes as i said it played a role, but there is no room for religion in our future as a species, with the exception maybe of the mentally troubled that find peace in the concept of religion.
No functional man needs religion to separate good from bad.

And no, Christianity was not the first ideology that described equality between humans. Greek philosophers have talked about it hundreds of years before Christianity and could have influenced it through Roman times.

Your attack at my education and knowledge doesn't work with me.

And compassion is not exclusive to religion, neither are religious people necessarily compassionate.
This, along with the monopoly on morals is a known card played by religious people, yet there is no evidence to back it up and for every mention of specific people that have done good in the name of god there are others who have done crimes or hid them from the public eye and the law to protect their dogma.
I've listened to Dawkins and read some of books, God Delusion included. I don't see a lack of compassion, i see a passion for the scientific truth.

Why am I not surprised you read Dawkins? Well, I come from the same background. Lucky I took the time and eventually read proper theology. I assume you'll come around too one day. So I won't bother commenting further. I won't change any minds here.

Perhaps just to correct you on some untruths. Ancient Greece didn't think much about equality and neither did Rome. Only recently I read Aristotle and he was actually quite vocal for the need of slavery. So was Plato. Though what they argue for is a different form of slavery than most of us associate with this word. But slavery it is none the less. Rome had a population of 60% being slaves. I really don't know where you get your ideas from.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

JK being the voice of reason.