Charlie Kirk assassinated at Utah campus event

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Avid Reading Horse said:
Despite very much being mostly boomer hippies, my high school teachers presented stuff fairly evenly, and didn't get on your ass if you had the wrong politics (though they were extremely petty if they didn't like you personally). My college experience was very very different. First college was so bad I transferred, cost me an extra semester of catch-up at the state school and cost me a solid $15k extra for that year but hey, state school really lightened the debt load in the end. It also had some activist oppression but nothing like the first place.
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Back when I did school the only time I ever remember teachers getting involved with drama and politics was in university when our prof (I forget what class it was) rolled in a TV on a metal stand and we watched the OJ verdict. No joke.

But grade school, high school, and rest of university and grad school (I majored in business) there was zero politics unless someone wants to include the OJ thing. Since my classes skew business, it was about business theories, group projects and sometimes getting in front of the class to present something. And some involved our group visiting real companies the school partnered with and you chatted with workers. That was it.
 
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At this point we, as society, need to move past the incendiary and blame culture discussions and acknowledge we have a huge problem here that we've created, and no answers for it. After these incidents occur we usually get a little tornado that kicks up shit, decimates people's lives and then we wait for the next one.

Social media was never meant to be used in the way it evolved. It grew arms and legs and was shaped by money and manipulative influence. Other platforms have now come to the forefront and a lot of this extremism is happening in a purgatory between the Internet and the hellscape of the dark web.

The only thing that has changed is the people. Years ago there was usenet and also irc, icq etc. You got the equivalent of the horsemen from X-Files, horny loners and just geeks. These modern platforms and social media have provided places where large numbers of misguided, vulnerable and suggestible people can coalesce within communities that spiral and become pits of concentrated toxicity and extremism. They are now being weaponised by religion, politics and sexuality extremists.

Even now, it's a shot of dopamine and schadenfreude for everyone when we see some of these terrible people losing their jobs (and vice versa I imagine). I'm not 100% convinced that these really unhinged people with more free time to be on the internet is a good thing. I'm not saying there shouldn't be consequences for this type of shit, but it's a short term solution that only provides good optics for the business.

Youngsters also should not be getting their formative political opinions from twitch, tiktok or x. And no this isn't a boomer thing, it's a common sense thing and an appreciation of how anything - even the most well meaning of media - can be twisted with literal logic holes and disingenuous metaphors/analogies.

It it not hard for platforms to have standards, look at TED for example. Far more valuable insight and thought provoking content even if you don't buy into the core ideas. At this point we really need to start making steps away from this chasm we're looking into. Because each time shit happens, more people dig their trench deeper and further and more people tumble in. We are really approaching the point of no return with this stuff.
 
StreetsofBeige said:
Back when I did school the only time I ever remember teachers getting involved with drama and politics was in university when our prof (I forget what class it was) rolled in a TV on a metal stand and we watched the OJ verdict. No joke.

But grade school, high school, and rest of university and grad school (I majored in business) there was zero politics unless someone wants to include the OJ thing. Since my classes skew business, it was about business theories, group projects and sometimes getting in front of the class to present something. And some involved our group visiting real companies the school partnered with and you with workers. That was it.
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We celebrated the OJ verdict like idiots, I'm pretty sure the teachers just laughed because we were 14.

That does unlock a memory though. They called a big assembly about Bill Clinton. And any faculty that felt like it went up and made a case for or against impeachment. Both cases were made and there really wasn't an animosity that I could see. I just remember going to the library to get on the internet and read the Starr report or whatever... "He did what with a cigar?!?"
 
Drake said:


Does this make anyone else a bit nervous? I won't deny there is some schadenfreude on seeing the leftists tactics used against them and I know for a fact they viewed the right's (up until this point) unwillingness to use the same tactics as a weakness, but the slope is getting very slippery now.
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No, it doesn't make me nervous. What would make me nervous is knowing there might be people at my workplace who'd poison my coffee just for having a different political stance, if they thought they could get away with it.
 
Kacho said:
A lot of the heinous tweets have ridiculously high likes. My gut tells me it driven by bots to further escalate tensions, specifically from China, Russia and India.

I've been saying for a while that I would like the ability to see likes by region on any post. I think it would be eye opening.
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There are no bots needed to expose how rotten social media is.
There are hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people making tiktoks dancing to his death. There are hundreds of profiles with their clear names on social media posting their delight. How many people will there be not stupid enough doing stuff like this while anonymous? How many will there be just pushing a like-button? The algorithm probably helps with spreading tweets like that one.
 
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Left: "We invented cancel culture to take you out one by one"

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Right: "Okay, here you have consequence culture for 20.000 at a time"

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Drake said:


Does this make anyone else a bit nervous? I won't deny there is some schadenfreude on seeing the leftists tactics used against them and I know for a fact they viewed the right's (up until this point) unwillingness to use the same tactics as a weakness, but the slope is getting very slippery now.
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Now something like that is how you start a civil war.
 
Unknown Soldier said:


Uhhhh, Canada???
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While I don't believe in god or religion, I do think it kinda held people brains in tact. Yes, you believe in fairytales and the unknown, but you had a common belief with other people. Religious groups do have a sense of community that aid one another.

So people search to be part of something, and more often than not, it's not something good. The woke is a religion, there's punishment, sin, etc. And these people preaching to 11 yo makes sense for them.
 
StreetsofBeige said:
Back when I did school the only time I ever remember teachers getting involved with drama and politics was in university when our prof (I forget what class it was) rolled in a TV on a metal stand and we watched the OJ verdict. No joke.

But grade school, high school, and rest of university and grad school (I majored in business) there was zero politics unless someone wants to include the OJ thing. Since my classes skew business, it was about business theories, group projects and sometimes getting in front of the class to present something. And some involved our group visiting real companies the school partnered with and you chatted with workers. That was it.
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The most exciting thing we did in high school back in like 02 was having an UN summit kind of thing where you paired up two and two and were assigned a country (I was China I believe) and then debated issues of the time, including stuff like foreign aid, subsidies, climate etc, but it was before everything got so insanely politicized so everething was sort of presented as a caricature of the actual point of view instead of serious business and everyone had fun and you actually learned things about other cultures and different viewpoints. If you tried it with that approach today I have a feeling someone would get stabbed and half the students would be suspended for cultural insensitivity.
 
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Las Vegas Realtors incoming board director removed after comments on Charlie Kirk’s death

Las Vegas REALTORS says an incoming director for its board of directors has now been removed following comments made on social media regarding the deadly shooting of Charlie Kirk.
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Las Vegas Realtors incoming board director removed after comments on Charlie Kirk's death

Texas A&M students hold prayer vigil for Charlie Kirk

Texas A&M students hold prayer vigil for Charlie Kirk(KBTX)
By Justine Verastigue
Published: Sep. 11, 2025 at 6:03 PM PDT|Updated: Sep. 11, 2025 at 6:04 PM PDT





LAS VEGAS (FOX5) — Las Vegas REALTORS says an incoming director for its board of directors has now been removed following comments made on social media regarding the deadly shooting of Charlie Kirk.

"Las Vegas REALTORS® is aware of divisive comments being attributed to one or more of our members on social media this week following the tragic murder of Charlie Kirk," the association said.

The association's President George Kypreos said they are aware of the comments made by Mark Sivek. He was an incoming director for the board of directors next year.

In LVR's press release, they say its leaders "do not condone hateful or potentially hurtful speech, and that such comments do not reflect the views and values of our association and professions."

Officials say the public comments made are against its policy and code of ethics for its realtors. Additional action will be made through existing processes.
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Drake said:


Does this make anyone else a bit nervous? I won't deny there is some schadenfreude on seeing the leftists tactics used against them and I know for a fact they viewed the right's (up until this point) unwillingness to use the same tactics as a weakness, but the slope is getting very slippery now.
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Something needs to change, bring it on, I am ready for the slippery slopes if it helps bring the left to justice.

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Unknown Soldier said:


Uhhhh, Canada???
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That could be straight up child abuse. It can be literally traumatic for a kid to see someone getting shot to death even once on video. And he kept replaying. I think the police should get involved and the kids offered therapy, because it could lead to mental health problems if some of them are especially vulnerable.

A classmate showed me a video of a person getting accidentally killed when I was in high school and it made my anxiety problems go into overdrive for a long time.
 
Why would anyone be surprised that Canadians aren't crying in solidarity over Charlie Kirk's death?

Do people not know that a lot of Canadians currently dislike America? Does reality only exist under self-serving terms and conditions?

Just think about all of this if things were reversed. If Canada had threatened to takeover America 'just cause', double downed on invasion and annexation rhetoric after Americans expressed explicit dislike of the idea, consistently embarassed America on the world stage by insulting American leadership and claiming America is powerless without them, created and violated multiple trade agreements with America that directly impacted the jobs and money of millions of Americans, what do you think Americans would do if a popular Canadian political figure was killed: express empathy or express apathy?

Regression from mutual respect, regression from diplomacy, regression from basic human decency, regression from common sense. This is all happening, supported, and promoted under the current American leadership. You must understand that the rest of the world is currently not retaliating because they're not China and America can still bully them both militarily and economically. If any of that should change -- and it will 100% change for a number of both NATO and non-NATO countries within the next decade -- the fakeness will stop and then the consequences of middle fingering both your allies and non-allies will show up.

There is a deeper more sinister reality that this shooting is exposing. I hope that people don't turn into meowers that are scared to point out that bad people exist in each and every class, race, profession, gender, sexuality, political affiliation, city state country etc. I hope that people start believing that large parts of traditional media and social media are unhealthy in the development of a reasonable adult mind. The sooner this reality is established, the sooner people will stop supporting individuals and ideologies that ignore past, present, and future realities.
 
Teachers should promote love and unity and the sense of acceptance and togetherness no matter their background.

How can you be a teacher when you strongly and openly disagree ideologically with half of your students and view them and their families as you also view Charlie Kirk?

That's the real problem, it's not that these teachers are disrespectfully preaching politics. It's that they are (maybe intentionally?) unintentionally signaling they don't care if half their students and parents also suffer the same fate.
 
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RetroGamingUK said:
Time to destroy these people's lives.

These evil bastards have cancelled other long enough now.

We left it too late in Britain
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The good intentioned liberal left has completely fucked our country over and they are still doing it.
 
Why is there no scrutiny on the bluesky platform as everyone cries about Elon? I mean both are shitholes but bluesky is clearly the most extreme voices who existed on twitter on an even more concentrated platform of sole hate
 
X is like the public forum so you inevitably have crazies from all sides. BS seems more like the communications infrastructure for a terrorist group.

MikeM said:

Thoughts on this? Was giving Reddit a scroll and saw a Fox host call for involuntary lethal injection on homeless? 0:45 into the video.
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Despite doing zero research into this, I can all but guarantee that showing the part of the segment preceding this will make it clear who he is talking about and that it will almost certainly be people who have been arrested for violent crimes.

Whenever you see a clip like this from the left, always anticipate that you are being deceived and look into it for yourself. It will almost always turn out that they were in fact attempting to deceive you into believing a lie.
 
ReasonBeing said:
Well to be fair, a normal conservative should be anti-fascist as well, considering a core tenant of American conservatism is small government. If being anti-fascist automatically put you on the left, does that mean to be on the right you have to be profacist?
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No, you are absolutely right. However people on the left side of things are the ones that loves to scream facist whenever somebody simply has views that don't align with theirs despite 99% of them seemingly having 0% clue what facism actually means.
 
Anyone who is getting their panties in a bunch because people are going to lose their jobs over shit they say on social media should let it go. Almost every company has a social media policy. Maybe these idiots should read their employee handbook before posting and then crying when they lose their job. They are doing it to themselves. Maybe, just maybe, some of them will have a learning experience from it, look in the mirror, and then realize they need to do better.
 
Lukaku's First Touch said:
Dude... 'it looks bad'? Come the fuck on.

You can actually hear the audience laughing about it, that's pretty much the same as cheering in this case.

Take of your extremist glasses and just be honest for once. Trump and his cronies are just as bad as all these insane woke retards but just on the other side of the aisle. Dont make a fool out of yourself saying mocking kirk's death is disgusting only to turn around and say mocking the pelosi attack is 'bad taste'.
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Not even remotely the same thing when you consider one died and the other didn't. People make jokes about murderers/attempted murderers (Chappelle on OJ), but that isn't the same as relishing or endorsing it.

If you still think they're the same, you're welcome to find a few thousand videos or social media posts where people explicitly say "I wish he had died." Something tells me you can't do it though.
 
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Delighting in cold-blooded murder is bad for your soul and leads nowhere good, for them or the people around them. I hope at least some of those people realize that eventually.
 
MikeM said:

Thoughts on this? Was giving Reddit a scroll and saw a Fox host call for involuntary lethal injection on homeless? 0:45 into the video.
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Is this meant to be directed at me? Not sure if you quoted the wrong person? Seems disconnected.

As an aside I'd say thoughts on what?

The thought that the topic title is reframed to something it isn't (the actual comment is already questionable enough)
The thought that immediately scrolling down on another social media hellhole reveals 'nazi' being spammed by the 'left' again?
The thought that reddit needs to be included with twitter and bluesky as harmful to society?

After watching it - and applying the basics of critical thinking that I learned when I was like 14 - my own personal conclusion is this is a discussion about what to do about a growing epidemic of a subset of mentally ill, dangerous peope who are causing everyday people to make conscious decisions in public about who and where to avoid to feel safe. This is framed by the original speaker.

He then explains the difficulty with this subset of people who refuse help, refuse the provided programmes to get help and remain a danger to the law abiding public. He offers an option that treatment should not be optional and the offer on the table should be treatment is mandatory or you have a choice to be incarcerated for the safety and wellbeing of the public. The last guy chimes in and also says involuntary lethal objection should be part of that choice.

That of course isn't as inciteful as these ragebaiters want it to be though. So saying that this guy wants to force all mentally ill and homeless people to have a death injection is easier. And it obviously offers no challenge to these redditors who can only consume opinion and don't have the required level of intelligence to dissect complex issues.

As for my own personal view, I don't think we should be killing people for anything personally. Some specific cases and incidents challenge my principles but my emotion can be kept in check by logic. As for the guys comments that these people who are a danger of society should be mandated treatment or incarcerated. Yes, I agree and this is from first hand experience. And is not to dissimilar from a Section 2 and Section 3 of the mental health act in the UK.
 
Darkmakaimura said:
My roomie, who I really love, is cheering Charlie Kirk's death and mocking his wife while she's crying.

I didn't like Charlie Kirk either but it's very disturbing.
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It is as disgusting as any trans person killing themselves over bullying on the internet. Why is it that when someone like that (a trans person) dies, the community wants to hold an open heart but when its random person with contrary opinions, its okay to cheer their death?

All this does is cast a cloak of thinly veiled hypocrisy. In both cases a human being dies. Yet according to the trans community, we have to condemn the death of one and cheer the death of the other. Why? they are still human beings at the end of the day.

Darkmakaimura said:
It sucks so many in the trans community are lacking empathy with this. It only reinforces negative stereotypes and is only going to make things worse for her.

Thankfully, some like Brianna Wu is calling those doing that, out.
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The sad thing in this case is that the bolded is what they are now bringing up themselves. If anything, you would expect trans people to be mortified that a human being was assassinated. *

* But all that empathy and vouching for transparency and sympathy for other rights and opinions seemingly goes out of the window when someone they disagree with is killed. I wish it was ironic but honestly its just sad that it comes out from the trans community, a community that supposely prides itself on being so open, transparent and empathtic.
 
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